Do you fuckers still think handguns are so cool now?

[singerman]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
And the least liberty to defend yourselves.....

You will be taken over by the Islamofascists invading your tiny little island nation who will bend you over like a seventeen year old virgin on prom night.

mmmm....wasnt the most intelligent answer i was looking for but well done for trying...any adults out there?

[singerman]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Ok I'll swap a little bit of liberty not to get shot.

I'm old fashioned that way,,,

read it please brian

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by singerman
mmmm....wasnt the most intelligent answer i was looking for but well done for trying...any adults out there?

Well consider the source, he actually posts Ann Coulter articles!:D

[singerman]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Well consider the source, he actually posts Ann Coulter articles!:D

yes,but does he read them or just post them? ;-)

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by singerman
yes,but does he read them or just post them? ;-)

Probably mostly the latter.:D

[Cathedral]

Roll over one night and notice there is someone in your room just a few feet away from you going through your wifes purse, how would you react knowing this stranger has invaded the security of the home you and your entire family live in?
We had an alarm also, but back then they ran through the phone lines and once the guy snipped the line outside, it wasn't worth a dime.

The man came into my house armed with a knife, I had a gun, there's a joke there, but in this instance and it's outcome, it isn't appropriate.

From my cold dead hands, baby, from my cold dead ass hands....

But seriously, sit back, close your eyes and think about what your options would be if you had the same thing happen to you?

What would you do?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Roll over one night and notice there is someone in your room just a few feet away from you going through your wifes purse, how would you react knowing this stranger has invaded the security of the home you and your entire family live in?
We had an alarm also, but back then they ran through the phone lines and once the guy snipped the line outside, it wasn't worth a dime.

The man came into my house armed with a knife, I had a gun, there's a joke there, but in this instance and it's outcome, it isn't appropriate.

From my cold dead hands, baby, from my cold dead ass hands....

But seriously, sit back, close your eyes and think about what your options would be if you had the same thing happen to you?

What would you do?

I agree, to an extent, but I think we need tighter restrictions on guns in this country.

About ten years ago, they arrested a lily white little college boy who was going into gun stores in Virginia and buying up handguns and assault rifles with his NYS licence (I think) and importing them to gangs in New York State because the laws are far more lax down there.

I think he got over 20 years in prison since the judge decided to throw the book at him, but still, should criminals really have such unfettered access to weapons?

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by singerman
what about resticting the production of ammo?....easier than trying to stop guns getting in the wrong hands!.....a toy is useless without any batteries

I have a loader that allowes me to re-load my shells at home, restricting ammo sales won't do a damn thing to decrease gun crimes.

But what will decrease those crimes is the doubt a criminal has about if the victim he is planning to attack is or isn't armed.
I carry a pistol in a shoulder holster when i work inspections, depending on the neighborhood i have to go into and the fact that the crappy hoods have a Rot in every yard, I need protection that is effective.

But in Ohio it is legal to carry and conceal now, and i can't wait till the end of the year to see the stats on crime due to that law.

I'm actually a proponant of a Wild West mentality. not in the sense that there should be shootouts in the streets, but that the idea that everyone is carrying a gun it will most certainly make a criminal think twice about creating a potentially deadly situation for himself.

[twonabomber]

Originally posted by Cathedral

But in Ohio it is legal to carry and conceal now, and i can't wait till the end of the year to see the stats on crime due to that law.

just from reading the local papers, i haven't seen any mention of anyone involved in a crime being a permit holder. and the way the media is lately, they'd be all over that shit.

[singerman]

Originally posted by Cathedral
I have a loader that allowes me to re-load my shells at home, restricting ammo sales won't do a damn thing to decrease gun crimes.

But what will decrease those crimes is the doubt a criminal has about if the victim he is planning to attack is or isn't armed.
I carry a pistol in a shoulder holster when i work inspections, depending on the neighborhood i have to go into and the fact that the crappy hoods have a Rot in every yard, I need protection that is effective.

But in Ohio it is legal to carry and conceal now, and i can't wait till the end of the year to see the stats on crime due to that law.

I'm actually a proponant of a Wild West mentality. not in the sense that there should be shootouts in the streets, but that the idea that everyone is carrying a gun it will most certainly make a criminal think twice about creating a potentially deadly situation for himself.

im not too sure what a reloader is ,could you explain a bit more about them?

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I agree, to an extent, but I think we need tighter restrictions on guns in this country.

I agree only if those restrictions are aimed at the criminal element, but to date they aren't enforced.

And let me tell you, Gun Registration has only hurt the law abiding citizen.
Criminals rarely use a registered firearm in a robbery, and if it is registered, it isn't registered to the guy doing the robbing, it was stolen.
Registration only tells the authorities where the legal guns are so they know where to go collecting if they were to ban them all together.
I have some that are registered, and a few that i absolutely cannot register for various reasons.

Guns should be issued a title of ownership at the time of production, like a car, that follows it throughout its existance.
Possesion of a gun without a title of ownership should have at least a 5 year prison sentence for those unlawfully possessing said weapon.

I'm all for legislation that protects the law abiding gun owner and punishes the criminal. But i have yet to see any that do that because there are too many people wanting to take them away from everyone.

They are too easily accessible, that i won't deny, but there are better ways to deal with it than what i have seen proposed in my lifetime.

If someone has the balls to break into a home where he knows the people are home sleeping, AND brings a weapon with him. what the hell is an unarmed victim going to endure should they wake up startled?
If you break into my home and i am there, I play possum while i reach under my pillow slowly, then i yell, "STOP, DO NOT MOVE".....If you move your ass is shot, period.

I also have the belief that in the event you do actually shoot a criminal in your home, KILL THEM, let me repeat that, KILL THEM!
You only want ONE story being told after the fact because i have seen two occasions where the wounded criminals filed a civil suit against the people they were robbing, and one criminal won damages that in one of those cases bankrupted the home owner.

Oh, and that idea was not mine, it was from about half a dozen County Sherrif's that i had the liberty of being friends with in the 80's.

One story, and if you don't touch a thing or try to hide anything the case will be closed rather quickly.
Don't be shooting someone as they are fleeing the house and drop dead outside or it's your ass, prison time, Murder in the 1st.

Keep it simple, move nothing, call 9-1-1 IMMEDIATELY!

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by singerman
im not too sure what a reloader is ,could you explain a bit more about them?

It is machine that allowes you to re-pack your used shells with a new pin (the thing that the hammer on the trigger hits to fire the shell), gun powder, and a new lead tip.

I don't buy ammo very often at all, except for shotgun shells.

[moose]

Martial Law!!!
You wanna come into my house and fuck with my family, I'm gonna shoot you, no ifs ands or buts about it. I worked hard for everything I have, no freakin cocksuckin junkie is goin' to threatin' my wife and kids and get away with it. Except of callin 911 I'd load the fucker in my truck take him up to bush and dump him in a swamp. Let him fuckin rot.
Cheers Catherdral I agree with everything you have said.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by twonabomber
just from reading the local papers, i haven't seen any mention of anyone involved in a crime being a permit holder. and the way the media is lately, they'd be all over that shit.

Exactly, just more proof that guns aren't the problem, the current laws and how they are basically un-enforced is the problem.

But if just one person is saved because a criminal thought twice about attacking, carry and canceal should be nation wide and everyone would have a gun on their hip again.

I know it sounds drastic, but we live in a much more dangerous society where courts do little to nothing for people who are threatened by others until a crime has been commited.
Just a week or so ago there was a little 5 year old girl that found her mom and dad shot in their bedroom, both died.
And the couple had tried to get some action taken against the mans threats but got nowhere because no crime had been commited yet.
Sorry, but in 99% of those situations, after the fact is too late.

The couple didn't own a gun and i can only assume that they may have had a chance if they had.
People, nobody is going to look out for you, that's a pipe dream that will cost you your life.

Learn Gun Safety, Get a Permit and then Purchase at least one pistol in the name of protection. Your families lives could depend on it one day.
After the fact is simply too late..............

[singerman]

Originally posted by Cathedral
It is machine that allowes you to re-pack your used shells with a new pin (the thing that the hammer on the trigger hits to fire the shell), gun powder, and a new lead tip.

I don't buy ammo very often at all, except for shotgun shells.

ahh...i see now thanks!