Bush will win war on terrorism

[pete]

Originally posted by lucky wilbury
your people were on the defensive the entire time. other posts you've made back that up.



we came in and went on offense in africa, the pacific and in europe. your backs were at the walls.

This is part of our problem that most of the world has gotten over. Our separatist attitude.

[pete]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
Canada vs. America
By: Liam Jones
05.01.02




FOR THE LAND OF STUPID
AND THE HOME OF THE IGNORANT.


FACT: America is the most schooled yet least educated nation in the world.

How many fuckers on the Islanders team are even fucking American anyway? I'm willing to bet it's well under half. I propose an invasion of these shithead ******-haters to the south: beat the fuckers to death with hockey sticks and beaver pelts (beaver, snort snort... VAGINA!!!!)

HEY I KNOW WE CAN USE THOSE 4, OH FUCK I MEAN 3 NEW SUBS THAT WE GOT.

What the fuck is with the whole god damned mother fucking world ripping us off? Millions of dollars on subs gets ripped of by england. 4 dead in a war that we have no place in by supposed friendly fire (I like the friendly napalm: it tickles as it burns your flesh off), and now the booing of our anthem.



Bush: sorry little brother, I guess we should quit putting all that testosterone in our beef.
Chretein: it's okay, it is a stupid song anyway, and at least one of the dead boys was a ******. Would you like a cream pie, eh??
And now a rant which may not make sense

I was glad when those fucking planes killed a bunch of your innocents. I thought it may smack that fucking semi-doped-up semi-retarted smile of off your face. I mean, your penis hasn't been quite so big after Vietnam. Unless of course it is getting the good old viagra treatment from Hollywood (by the way thanks for ending world war 2 single-handedly, *cough* *cough* sarcasm sarcasm). Oh wait, there was that time that you invaded Granada for no fucking reason, and who could forget Panama, Ethiopia, or Korea? FUCK ME AMERICA, MAKE ME CUM WITH YOUR HUGE POWERFUL COCK!!!!!!!!

*America whips out its dick to fuck me*

WHAT A LET DOWN, I KNEW ALL THOSE BOMBS WERE COMPENSATING FOR SOMETHIN'..............ZIING.

the end


Well said...

Yeah, maybe if we go into iraq, we can make the world safe for American shoppers again. LOL

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
Canada and Britian have spent the last 2 century's cleaning your mess and its about time the rest of the world see's this.

Name these "messes." You can't.

[Big Troubles]

Im tired of pointing out any messes that the United States have made the last 2 century's. Im not saying Canada is any better. Im defending my nation just as much as you guys defend yours. Its not a war here gentlemen. (and ladies) Ive made my point over and over. And Ive also said good-bye 2 threads ago. LOL

and btw, Ive read that the "30 days" comment has gotten over eal well with your sense of sarcasim and humour. Perhaps another thing that could be taught in USA instead of "How to purchase a firearm without a permit". And also like I said in the last thread. You win. USA! USA! Ok? Everybody happy now? good. Cause I have to take a shit, and wipe my ass with your flag now. No disrespect, I just wanna show you guys the same democracy that your 4 fathers have passed down and showcased to the rest of the world.
Good luck in the next war! Im sure we will be sending more troops and money to help out where we can. C'mon France, Hey Germany, Japan, we're looking at you guys too. I know the U.N put strict sanctions on war, but its the United States for Christs sakes. We have to do what they say. They make fancy movies and have good music, so they must know what they are doing!

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Big Troubles

Good luck in the next war! Im sure we will be sending more troops and money to help out where we can.

Thank you. You guys make pretty good practice targets.

[Big Troubles]

hey no problem. see we lose a few troops here and there...and well,those were deemed acidents. Americans lose, how many? 5,000 people in the WTC? Seems to me, that was no accident. Guess we're doing something right. Staying out of the target area anyways...

[Big Troubles]

lets take to task some of your american education. see I can name all 52 states and capital cities. Lets see what an average american would know about Canada. no cheating now.

[Big Troubles]

dont get distracted now. I know its been awhile since you've tested your mind as opposed to your muscles.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
hey no problem. see we lose a few troops here and there...and well,those were deemed acidents. Americans lose, how many? 5,000 people in the WTC? Seems to me, that was no accident. Guess we're doing something right. Staying out of the target area anyways...

yeah, not important enough to waste an attack effort.

Maybe you didn't get the memo, but they didn't just attack America. It's the western world they went after. The World Trade Center was what they wanted to use to get their point across. It symbolized to them all the evils of our (a collective western nation our) culture.

Americans weren't the only one who lost people on that day. Maybe you didn't know. but it's called the World Trade Center for a reason. A lot of world business had branches located there and a lot of foreigners (for lack of a better word right now) worked there for their countries. And yes, even Canadians. That's why it was target twice. That's why there was a twice time. They don't have a jihad against America or Americans.

Yeah, they've attacked us a couple more times than others, but you don't go after the little dogs. You go after the top dog so that the other dogs go, "well, they got hit and look where they stand." Yeah, attacks are going to come because we're the superpower. Yep, you're country is safe. Besides, it would be stupid to bite the hand that feeds them. Why would they attack you on your homeland? You might beef up security and prevent them from gaining access to the big dog they need to pull down to make a point. It's all logic.

And you might fight back by saying, "why was the Pentagon hit?" Again, because it is the superpower's, well, main base so to say. And why plan on attacking the White House? Well, what do they call our President? Leader of the Free World. Bring him down and throw around successful jihad to other countries and hell, you've made a huge success.

And don't start on me that i'm boasting. I'm just saying, ya got to look at the symbolics of this. Is that all there is to it? Nawh, there's more, but this is a huge part of it. If Canada was the superpower, or England, they'd be the ones getting this slack.

And that 30 day stuff is so stupid, even if it was sarcastical. If you're going to make a sarcastical statement, it can't be that far-fetched. You want to brag that you guys declared war on Germany a week after England did, fine. You and I both know that you guys were connected to what was going on, even if it is just by the crown.

We got pulled into the war. See, at the time America had this isolationist view. This was Europe's mess. And correct if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the Germans were getting pissed that even though we were neutral we were still sending the Allied powers supplies and such. And when did we enter the war? December 7th, 1941 for the Asian theater and Dec 11th, the Germans announced war on us. Oh *waves fingers* two years after you. Seems it lasted, oh, 4 years after we got involved.

And I'd like to know what those two nonexistential states are.

[Big Troubles]

You sound very angry. did you not pass my test?

[Big Troubles]

I know there are 50. Its fun to see if any one other than one person notice that.

cheers

[Big Troubles]

and I absolutely agree with you about the WTC. I lost my friend from Sudbury in that bombing. It was sensless and tragic. and everyday Sean Bowler is in my prayers as well as the many that were lost. My point was, is that the bombing on the WTC was nothing more than chopping off Americas dick. Thats all War is. Who's got the biggest penis. Im seriously. Its all penis evny. Tallest buildings, fastes ships and planes. Technology. Go go go.... USA USA!
My problem with that is that it's causing this tremendous gloating cloud above America (super power or not) that will eventualy rain warfare. I dont care if you guys are "the best". Holy fuck, I love my country more than anything. And I also understand the losses WE had to endure to keep our freedom. And yes, we are "ruled" under the Queen, but if you guys picked up a world histroy book, instead of an American history book you would see that you guys are NO WAY "better" than anyone else. Bomb this. Invade that. You guys have proven to either attack "at night", "invade when enemy is not prepared for war" or "show up at last to raise your flag to declare victory". Its sickening, and that's my opinion. dont like it? Fine. I dont care. You have yours...I have mine. This is why theres a border between us. Its not just the clean air, water, better schools, family values, gun control and street violence and health care plans that divide us. It's our freedom of choice and speech.
We dont have to lock our doors at night. We dont worry about getting cut off in traffic, only to be shot at later. We just live our lives. Try it some time.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
You sound very angry. did you not pass my test?

haha, nawh. Takes a lot to actually anger me. Trust me, you'd know if I was angry.

I will admit that I didn't even bother with the test because I'm doing two other assignments at once here. That and I, personally, honestly couldn't care less about your provinces. Nothing against Canada, but it's up there doing it's thing and I'm down here doing my thing.

You're just having fun poking fun at us, saying we're stupid and all. And that's fine. But remember the reasoning behind people picking fights online.

That, and just saying - not attacking - so don't take it wrong, if you are going to go boasting that you are smarter than every American on here and in America, then I would deffy show it and stop cutting and pasting other articles and just slamming us. Ya know what I mean?

[John Ashcroft]

Holy Shit! Look at the shit storm I started!
:eek:

This is great.

First, You're a Canucklehead, I didn't know. Sorry about overestimating your capacity for rational thought by labeling you a European (after all, at least Europe has shown the capacity to defend itself throughout history... Canada's a different story). Hell, I leave for a day and looks like Lucky's stomped the floor with you, but what the hell, I'll jump back in...

Your defense is pitiful. Your percentage of your GDP spent on defense is the least of all member nations in NATO (other than Luxembourg, who's a member only on paper, and Turkey who's currency has been freefalling for years). I suppose I don't blame you after all, the U.S. has spent all the money required to protect your sorry assed country for decades. I guess you're our toady, which is cool. The uncool thing about it is you have some of the finest soldiers and airman I've ever met, and your government fucks them in the ass at every opportunity. It's pitiful. Your account of WWII is laughable, as is your list of American "invasions" (Oh, and Grenada was a success. It's part of the reason you revisionists hate Ronald Reagan so damn much. After all, he rid South America of one more marxist dictator, and you commies can't have that...) I think your account of history was fairly rebuked earlier. But to tell you the truth, I won't show any disrespect for Canada's contribution during WWII as it was admirable. But today's a different time, and your leaders are milking your neighbors (that's right, no fucking "u") to the south for protection so you can afford that shitty healthcare system you've got, which I'll get to in a minute. You've had no terrorist attack because you send them all south with nary an afterthought. Some appreciation you fucking leeches!

On to health care. Your health care sucks. I'd gladly keep our system over yours. If I'm sick, I get care immediately. Not two or three months down the line. Our doctors are amongst the best in the world, as is our research and development. Pretty much all medical advancements come from our side of the boarder. Yeah, you've got Americans going North for cheap drugs (cheap to us, but not to you as your taxes are paying for them). But you Canuckleheads better come south if you ever need major surgery. And you do (at least the smarter ones do). Here's a little ditty on your system and it's reliance on ours:

Borderline hysteria over Canadian drugs

Seattleites can hold their progressive heads high again this week. After months of watching other states and municipalities around the country get nasty with Big Pharma, the Emerald City is now getting ready to claim its own piece of the barge to Canada. This week, the city held a forum to plot bulk "reimportation" of prescription drugs from those famous dollar-store prices they have up north. Lo, what it takes to make the Democrats rediscover their love for free trade.

The plan being totted around by City Councilman Tom Rasmussen is the worst kind of copycat politics. Following the eminent lead of Springfield, Mass., the scheme would require that all health-care plans for government employees purchase their prescription drugs over the border. The total savings for this exercise will be, as Austin Powers might say, "One million dollars."

That's the outside figure, naturally — others have predicted the annual savings will be closer to the neighborhood of $300,000. But when it comes to the Big Drug companies, no nickel isn't worth bending over to pick up if it shows solidarity against these capitalist exploiters of our need for Viagra, pain relief and drugs to reduce cholesterol without, you know, forgoing any cheeseburgers.

The endgame here is bigger than any co-pay savings, as many American proponents of the Canadian system will freely admit. Drug companies are now filling the void left by the tobacco companies in city budgets, at least in the political imagination. Tobacco taught politicians that with a bit of tough talk about evil fat cats, windfall paydays could be engineered through a combination of publicity and lawsuits.

How anyone who can tie their shoes imagines that the long-term answer to drug-pricing issues in this country lies in sending drugs out of the country and then bringing them back in is a mystery for the ages.

Are drugs really cheaper in Canada? Not overall. Canadians pay more for generic drugs simply because the market there isn't as attractive to drug makers. As for brand-name prescription drugs, most Americans take advantage of bulk prices available to their insurers. The actual customer usually ends up paying only a small co-pay.

In Canada, there is only one insurer — and it dictates the prices at which brand-name prescription drugs may be sold through pharmacies to customers. This system works only because the price of running off a few extra pills is virtually zero, so any price above zero can help generate revenues to repay the long-ago "sunk" costs of investment to create new drugs in the first place.

The Canadian system works brilliantly for drugs, because U.S. consumers still shoulder the bulk of research costs; they end up paying prices that create the profits that get returned to investors.

Canada's system works less spectacularly when it comes to other medical needs. As Sally Pipes at the Pacific Research Institute has documented, routine tests like MRIs sometimes require months of waiting. Nor is it uncommon for Canadians to stream south for heroic treatments when their lives are on the line from tough or unusual diseases.

The latest pharmaceuticals, however, are available to Canadians by the good graces of Americans who pay for white coats to keep playing in petri dishes. And prescription drugs are becoming a bigger wedge of health-care spending everywhere, simply because more drugs are available to do things that drugs (and perhaps no medical therapy) could do before. In fact, talk about runaway drug expenditures can be misleading: Some of the most heavily advertised categories, like cholesterol drugs, antidepressants and ulcer medications, demonstrably reduce costs by reducing the need for hospitalization and acute care.

Some conservatives fret that bus trips to Canada will eventually spell doom for the worldwide pharmaceutical industry because price controls will, willy-nilly, be imported into the world's last free (and biggest) market. But long before that happens, the Canadians will be the ones to shut the border — and quickly when they realize their pharmacies are being emptied to satisfy American appetites.

When and how this blowup will come is anybody's guess. The Bush administration is being pressured by Congress to find a way to permit mass reimportation — or else the Senate has threatened to sit on his nominee to take over Medicare and make the new Bush-created drug benefit work.

John Kerry, finger ever to the wind, has pronounced himself four-square in favor of reimportation, never mind that he would inherit the consequences as president (which would include a crash in drug stocks and a trade war with Canada).

For now, the message seems to be that drug companies, because they provide a service critical to human survival, or health, should not be allowed to profit. Much nonsense survives in the world uncorrected, but this is one delusion that will be short-lived. Two days after the markets stop funneling capital to a drug industry currently working on cures for Alzheimer's and other curses of aging baby boomers, expect a massive hue and cry from the media and public to do something to save the pharmaceutical industry.

Link: here

On to Angel

Darling, did I overestimate your capacity as well? You keep talking about me talking shit about stuff I don't know "Fuck about", yet never offer any examples. In fact, I enjoy laying the smack down on your commie propaganda, then sending you back to the kitchen... Is that it? Is that what I don't know "Fuck about"? You don't know how to bake, do you. Well damn, all this time I was recommending you get back to the kitchen and bake me some pie, and I truly didn't know fuck about your lack of ability in the kitchen. Oh well, I hope you at least give good blow jobs... Gotta be of some use after all...

And pete, you're like a pimple on these two people's asses. Drive by spammings are a waste of everybody's time. It's time to grow a set and bring something to the table. Otherwise shattup, and put your boyfriends cock back in your mouth.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
and I absolutely agree with you about the WTC. I lost my friend from Sudbury in that bombing. It was sensless and tragic. and everyday Sean Bowler is in my prayers as well as the many that were lost. My point was, is that the bombing on the WTC was nothing more than chopping off Americas dick. Thats all War is. Who's got the biggest penis. Im seriously. Its all penis evny. Tallest buildings, fastes ships and planes. Technology. Go go go.... USA USA!
My problem with that is that it's causing this tremendous gloating cloud above America (super power or not) that will eventualy rain warfare. I dont care if you guys are "the best". Holy fuck, I love my country more than anything. And I also understand the losses WE had to endure to keep our freedom. And yes, we are "ruled" under the Queen, but if you guys picked up a world histroy book, instead of an American history book you would see that you guys are NO WAY "better" than anyone else. Bomb this. Invade that. You guys have proven to either attack "at night", "invade when enemy is not prepared for war" or "show up at last to raise your flag to declare victory". Its sickening, and that's my opinion. dont like it? Fine. I dont care. You have yours...I have mine. This is why theres a border between us. Its not just the clean air, water, better schools, family values, gun control and street violence and health care plans that divide us. It's our freedom of choice and speech.
We dont have to lock our doors at night. We dont worry about getting cut off in traffic, only to be shot at later. We just live our lives. Try it some time.

I never once claimed in my post that America was better than anyone else. If anyone has been claiming being better over the other, it's you.

We're all countries, ruled by humans, inhabited by humans, who all have faults and err. Think I'm all gumdrops and lollipops about living in this superpower? No. I'm not exactly thrilled that we're a superpower. Yeah, I like that we have a strong military and all that, but i'm not exactly thrilled about countries coming to us or expecting us to help whenever there's a problem. I really don't like my country having to carry the burden of policing the world. And it is a huge burden because we're damned if we and we're damned if we don't. If we do, we're arrogant Americans with no self-control who want to have the United States of the World. If we don't, we're arrogant Americans with no reguard to the importance of world events.

And the military boys here can elaborate more on the you're attack at night and when the enemy isn't prepared thing more, but I'm pretty sure you don't ring their doorbell and say, "I'd like to play war now. I'll it here and wait til you prepare your gun." War doesn't work that way. We can't go marching in like the Redcoats and do all that face each other and shoot in a field.

And with that show up last line, you still going on about WW2 because I thought I showed that we came in in the beginning half of that war. We didn't show up at last minute. And hell, if you want to be technical, Brazil joined the Allied way after we did.


Honestly, and again not saying this aggressively, I think you just have some problems with your neighbors to the south that has nothing to do with history. And you'll probably say I didn't grasp this and that you were being sarcastic, but you generalize waaay too much with America. If you were smart, you wouldn't do that lol. Just teasing ya.

You can leave your doors unlocked here too, although I wouldn't do it here in nyc. But, upstate my aunt does. And my other aunt down in Florida does. And so does the family in PA. I'm sure there are cities in Canada where people lock their doors. And as for your other generalizations, i'm not even going tobother cuz it would take too long. Have incidents like that happened? Has someone gotten shot cuz they cut someone off? Yeah, it's happened I'm sure, but it's not commonplace.

By making such generalizations it shows that you don't really understand what goes on here. There's not that much violence. The news just hypes it for ratings. Good news doesn't sell.

I gotta say that the best part of your post was when you told me that you were just living life and I should try it sometime. Oh, so you live in Ontario and have more trees than me. I got world cultures at my fingertips here. There's a rush here that just lights me up. I can actually do a handful of things at once. A city that never sleeps does a lot of living.