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  • Nickdfresh
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    • Oct 2004
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    #31
    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
    U.S. Strikes Iraq for Plot to Kill Bush
    By David Von Drehle and R. Jeffrey Smith
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Sunday, June 27, 1993; Page A01
    U.S. Navy ships launched 23 Tomahawk missiles against the headquarters of the Iraqi Intelligence Service yesterday in what President Clinton said was a "firm and commensurate" response to Iraq's plan to assassinate former president George Bush in mid-April.

    The attack was meant to strike at the building where Iraqi officials had plotted against Bush, organized other unspecified terrorist actions and directed repressive internal security measures, senior U.S. officials said.

    Clinton, speaking in a televised address to the nation at 7:40 last night, said he ordered the attack to send three messages to the Iraqi leadership: "We will combat terrorism. We will deter aggression. We will protect our people."

    Clinton said he ordered the attack after receiving "compelling evidence" from U.S. intelligence officials that Bush had been the target of an assassination plot and that the plot was "directed and pursued by the Iraqi Intelligence Service."

    "It was an elaborate plan devised by the Iraqi government and directed against a former president of the United States because of actions he took as president," Clinton said. Bush led the coalition that drove Iraq from Kuwait in the 1991 Persian Gulf War. "As such, the Iraqi attack against President Bush was an attack against our country and against all Americans," Clinton said.

    After two months of investigation and mounting evidence, Clinton became convinced during two "exhaustive and exhausting" meetings last week that Iraq was indeed behind a foiled car-bomb plot to kill Bush during his visit to Kuwait April 14-16, a senior administration official said.

    Aides met with Clinton Wednesday in the White House residence to present a summary of the evidence gathered by FBI and intelligence sources, the official said. On Thursday, Attorney General Janet Reno and CIA Director R. James Woolsey presented the president with their formal reports.

    Clinton ordered the attack Friday, but the raid was delayed a day so it would not fall on the Muslim sabbath, the official said. "About a dozen" U.S. allies and "friends in the region" were told in advance that the attack was coming; the reaction, according to the official, was mostly favorable. British Prime Minister John Major issued a statement last night supporting Clinton's action.

    The missiles struck late at night -- between 1 a.m. and 2 a.m. Baghdad time -- because Clinton wished to minimize possible deaths of innocent civilians.

    But Iraq, which has consistently denied involvement in any assassination plot against Bush, said there were "many civilian casualties" as a result of the Tomahawk attack, the Reuter news service reported. It quoted Iraqi civil defense officials as saying three people were killed and four rescued.

    Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's ruling Revolution Command Council denounced the raid as "cowardly aggression" and said Washington's reason for launching it was "fabricated by the vile Kuwaiti rulers in coordination with agencies in the U.S. administration."

    An Iraqi Ministry of Information spokesman said the missiles hit a residential area, where Reuter reported that three houses were destroyed.

    From Baghdad, Reuter reported smoke and what appeared to be a huge blaze could be seen rising from the site, about two miles from the center of the city in a residential district. But reporters were not immediately given access to the site.

    Clinton was persuaded to act by three kinds of evidence, a senior intelligence official said last night. First, key suspects in the plot confessed to FBI agents in Kuwait. Second, FBI bomb experts painstakingly linked the captured car bomb to previous explosives made in Iraq. Third, unspecified intelligence assessments concluded that Saddam meant seriously the threats he has made against Bush. Other classified intelligence sources supported this analysis, the official said.

    The combination made the CIA "highly confident that the Iraqi government, at the highest levels, directed its intelligence service to assassinate former president Bush," said the intelligence official.

    Clinton had harsh words for Saddam -- Bush's arch-nemesis during the Persian Gulf War -- in his Oval Office address. After listing the Iraqi leader's offenses against the world and his own people, Clinton said: "This attempt at revenge by a tyrant against the leader of the world coalition that defeated him in war is particularly loathsome and cowardly."

    Indeed, the tone of the whole speech was notably forceful and stern, coming from the often avuncular Clinton. He saved his kind words for the men and women involved in the investigation and the military strike: "You have my gratitude, and the gratitude of all Americans," he said.

    The action was the second major U.S. military operation conducted during Clinton's presidency, coming just two weeks after U.S. forces participated in a multinational strike against forces in Somalia allied with warlord Mohamed Farah Aideed. Unlike that operation, the raid against Iraq was taken unilaterally, entirely apart from the U.N. sanctions still in place against the Iraqi regime.

    "This crime was committed against the United States, and we elected to respond and to exercise our right of self defense" under Article 51 of the U.N. charter, Defense Secretary Les Aspin said. "Tonight's unilateral action in no way diminishes U.S. support for coalition action or for the authority of the United Nations."

    Bush -- at his home in Kennebunkport, Maine -- was terse when reached by the Associated Press. "I'm not in the interview business, but thank you very much for calling," he said.

    Administration sources said Bush's friend and former national security adviser Brent Scowcroft was kept apprised of the investigation, and Clinton called Bush minutes after the attack was launched to give him the news. Secretary of State Warren Christopher flew to Kennebunkport yesterday to brief the former president.

    Clinton relied heavily on evidence found by FBI bomb experts linking the Iraqi Intelligence Service to a 175-pound car bomb found April 14 in Kuwait City. According to senior intelligence and law enforcement officials, key pieces of the bomb -- including the remote-control detonator, the plastic explosives, the electronic circuitry and the wiring -- bore an overwhelming resemblance to components of bombs previously recovered from the Iraqis.

    The White House press office distributed photographs of circuit boards and detonators taken from earlier Iraqi bombs, alongside photos of the same elements from the bomb meant for Bush. Even to the untrained eye, there were clear similarities.

    "Certain aspects of these devices have been found only in devices linked to Iraq," an intelligence official said.

    Clinton also had the confessions of the two alleged leaders of the 16 suspects arrested by Kuwait when the plot was uncovered. Both are Iraqi nationals. Ra'ad Asadi and Wali Abdelhadi Ghazali told FBI investigators detailed to Kuwait that they met in Basra, Iraq, on April 12 with "individuals they believed to be associated with the Iraqi Intelligence Service," according to a senior U.S. intelligence official.

    They were given a vehicle loaded with hidden explosives. Ghazali told the FBI he was recruited specifically to kill Bush. Asadi also told the FBI he was to guide the car bomb, driven by his partner, to Kuwait University, where Bush was to be honored by the Emir of Kuwait for his leadership in the gulf war.

    Administration officials said the suspects told the FBI that the bomb was to be parked near the motorcade route. From a vantage point 300 to 500 yards away, Ghazali would set off the bomb using a remote control. FBI bomb specialists estimated the bomb would have been lethal for nearly a quarter-mile.

    FBI agents were told if the remote control device failed, the bomb was to be detonated by a timing device on a street in Kuwait City named for Bush. They were also told that Ghazali had a "bomb belt" he would use if all else failed; he was to wear it, approach Bush and blow them both up.

    There have been reports that the suspects held in Kuwait have been tortured by Kuwaiti officials, but a senior law enforcement official said last night that FBI agents "believe they were not." Nevertheless, the official said, confessions are often unreliable, which is why the investigators placed "an especially great emphasis" on the conclusions of the bomb experts.

    The CIA recalled that, after the gulf war, Saddam was heard on official Iraq media promising to hunt down and punish Bush, even after he left office. A senior intelligence official said the CIA also had classified evidence proving that the car bomb was meant for Bush, from Saddam.

    "We could not and have not let such action against our nation go unanswered," Clinton said in his televised address. "From the first days of our revolution, America's security has depended on the clarity of this message: Don't tread on us."

    Clinton had criticized the Iraqi regime on Friday for failing to allow continuous monitoring of its missile test sites by the United Nations. The monitoring was accepted by Baghdad at the end of the 1991 gulf war, as part of a series of agreements meant to strip Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction.

    But U.S. officials did not cite that dispute in explaining the action last night, and U.S. warplanes involved in policing U.N. sanctions against Iraq did not take part.

    Congressional leaders from both parties supported Clinton's action. Senate Minority Leader Robert J. Dole (R-Kan.) called the president from Charleston, W.Va., to give a thumbs-up. "I think it was a good thing. I support it. If I can help, let me know," Dole told Clinton, according to a CNN interview.

    The U.S. attack was initiated at 4:22 p.m. (EDT), when two ships -- the destroyer USS Peterson in the Red Sea and the cruiser USS Chancellorsville in the Persian Gulf -- began firing a total of 23 Tomahawk cruise missiles at the Iraqi Intelligence Service headquarters complex in downtown Baghdad.

    The missiles, which each cost an estimated $1.1 million, typically fly 50 to 100 feet above the ground and navigate by radar according to detailed maps stored in onboard computers. Each missile was capable of carrying up to 1,000 pounds of conventional explosives on their flight to Baghdad of up to two hours.

    Officials said the number of missiles was set after detailed analysis of what would be needed to ruin the complex. Navy officials programmed most of the missiles to hit specific aim-points at a building near the center, which Aspin called the "hub of . . . operational planning, interrogations, communication, and computer operations" for the Iraqi Intelligence Service.

    Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Colin L. Powell told reporters at the Pentagon last night that a detailed assessment of the damage was not immediately available. But Powell said he had "preliminary information that a large number of them impacted where they were supposed to."

    Officials made clear that no further military action was planned and warned Iraq not to retaliate. Powell said the Navy had moved several ships closer to Iraq so the United States could respond to any Iraqi retaliation.

    An aerial picture of the principal targeted building, shown to reporters at the Pentagon last night, showed a large, six-story structure with three wings located off the central corridors. Four satellite dishes sat atop the building's roof.

    Nearby were various buildings labeled as administrative, housing and support offices or vehicle storage sheds, and the entire complex -- roughly a football field in length -- was surrounded by a wall. U.S. officials cited the complex's isolation and the fact that the attack was timed to occur during Baghdad's nighttime as factors that would reduce the number of innocent casualties.

    Powell and Aspin declined to say how many people were expected to be in the complex but said a portion of it functioned around the clock. The attack was not expected to "take down the entire complex," Powell said, but to ruin Iraq's ability to continue using it.

    He noted that the complex was attacked and damaged once before by the United States, during the 1991 Operation Desert Storm bombing campaign aimed at pressuring Iraq to withdraw its forces from Kuwait. But Iraq had since rebuilt the headquarters.

    Aspin said the Iraqi Intelligence Service is the country's largest such agency and was responsible for providing security for Saddam's regime, repressing internal opposition, collecting foreign intelligence and conducting terrorist operations abroad, including the planned assassination attempt.

    Asked to explain why the United States picked that target and did not go after Saddam himself, Aspin said, "It's very difficult to target a single individual. It's very difficult to capture a single individual. Dropping bombs on the hope that you're going to get a single individual is a very, very demanding

    Washington Post Article on Saddam and Bush Assassination Attempt
    Thanks for posting another useless article BRIE...Don't you have anything better to do all day than to pointlessly Google ancient history?
    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 08-10-2005, 05:58 PM.

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    • academic punk
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      • Dec 2004
      • 4437

      #32
      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
      Thanks for posting another useless article BRIE...Don't you have anything better to do all day than to pointlessly Google ancient history?
      Actually, that was 100% legit.

      Bush was no longer even in office when this attempt took place.

      Besdies, even Richard Clarke documents all this in Against All Enemies...and describes how he wished the Clinton repsonse had been more severe (though he does say he was impressed with how effective the Clinton strike back was).

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      • Nickdfresh
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        • Oct 2004
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        #33
        Originally posted by academic punk
        Actually, that was 100% legit.

        Bush was no longer even in office when this attempt took place.

        Besdies, even Richard Clarke documents all this in Against All Enemies...and describes how he wished the Clinton repsonse had been more severe (though he does say he was impressed with how effective the Clinton strike back was).
        I know, but he's stating the obvious...Although, I would have like to have seen him do it in the middle of the day and killed a few IRAQI secret police agents.

        I think a better response would have been to saturation bomb everyone of SADDAM's palaces...

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        • thome
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          • Mar 2005
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          #34
          Clintons strike was throwing a rock over a fence in hopes that
          none of his pussy left wing pansie friends or dike wife would get mad at him
          for such a barbaric act of murder w out cause or follow up.

          Thats the kind up pussy play that plays rite into the hands
          of the people that hate this country and gives us more cause
          as to clinton dropped the ball repeatadly and should shoulder
          Blame for whats happening now.

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          • Nickdfresh
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            • Oct 2004
            • 49219

            #35
            Originally posted by thome
            Clintons strike was throwing a rock over a fence in hopes that
            none of his pussy left wing pansie friends or dike wife would get mad at him
            for such a barbaric act of murder w out cause or follow up.

            Thats the kind up pussy play that plays rite into the hands
            of the people that hate this country and gives us more cause
            as to clinton dropped the ball repeatadly and should shoulder
            Blame for whats happening now.
            What would you have had him do?

            How the fuck is it his fault? JUNIOR is the one that invaded IRAQ and has gotten us bogged down...Try reading a news paper sometime!

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            • thome
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              • Mar 2005
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              #36
              I would have preferred that clinton did nothing his game was
              Fame to get Laid like why most normal guys get onto R&R.

              Clinton was always in every position he was appointed to
              under qualified and out played by real politicians, he was in it
              for attention and pussy and to make big money off the backs
              of working people.Laugh clown laugh in the face of America. m.op

              Doing nothing will be his legacy in history.
              Everything he did Blew up in his or someone elses face.

              If he would have just rode on the tail of reagan bush with some amt of
              balls this sh@t may be different .my .op

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              • academic punk
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                • Dec 2004
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                #37
                Well, Clinton's limited strike seemed to work since Saddam got the message loud and clear and never attempted anything like that again, and didn't even have an active WMD program in 2002.

                He was contained, sanctioned, and cornered.

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                • thome
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                  • Mar 2005
                  • 6678

                  #38
                  Get OFF..... just drove ..THEM all underground.

                  You would be Best not conrtadicting me on CLINTONS war record.

                  Only a attention whore of the first magnitude with NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO talent on the SAX would get a solo
                  shot on the Tonight show even if he was the president.

                  Clinton is was and always will be in every way a complete and total
                  embarrassment to the world!!

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                  • Nickdfresh
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                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49219

                    #39
                    Originally posted by thome
                    Get OFF..... just drove ..THEM all underground.

                    You would be Best not conrtadicting me on CLINTONS war record.

                    Only a attention whore of the first magnitude with NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO talent on the SAX would get a solo
                    shot on the Tonight show even if he was the president.

                    Clinton is was and always will be in every way a complete and total
                    embarrassment to the world!!
                    "The World" respected CLINTON, they almost universally think of BUSH as a fuckwit...

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                    • DrMaddVibe
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                      "The World" respected CLINTON, they almost universally think of BUSH as a fuckwit...
                      Rii-ght!

                      http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...auders1zl5.gif
                      http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...willywonka.gif

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                      • Nickdfresh
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
                        Rii-ght!

                        http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=cl...nival.clinton/
                        Wow, an effigy. That proves a lot...

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                        • Nickdfresh
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                          #42
                          Back on topic...

                          August 11, 2005

                          Mother's Protest at Bush's Doorstep Raises the Stakes
                          By Edwin Chen and Dana Calvo, Times Staff Writers

                          CRAWFORD, Texas — For more than a year, a modest bungalow known as "Peace House," located a few miles from President Bush's ranch, has served as a headquarters for antiwar activists. It is lonely work, with little more than a skeleton crew on hand much of the time.

                          But then Cindy Sheehan hit town.

                          The 48-year-old mother of Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, who was killed in an ambush in Baghdad last year, is consumed by the kind of grief that turns into a furious determination to do something — in her case, to confront the president and force him to explain why her son died.

                          Now, in the space of just a few days, what started out as a seemingly quixotic personal mission has become something of a phenomenon — with media swarming around Sheehan, leading liberal and antiwar activists parachuting in to try to make her their long-sought voice, and political experts in both parties working to assess what role she may have in galvanizing the public's gathering unhappiness with the increasing American casualties in Iraq.

                          Antiwar leaders hope that putting the spotlight on Sheehan will motivate Americans who oppose the war, creating a political force strong enough to compel the Bush administration to change course.

                          MoveOn.org and other liberal groups have rushed to provide support, offering media expertise and attempting to assemble a corps of others who have lost relatives in Iraq or have family members serving there.

                          Liberal voices have swung into action on the Internet as well. On Wednesday, Democratic media consultant Joe Trippi organized a conference call with Sheehan for bloggers, aiming to garner more publicity. By Wednesday afternoon, "Cindy Sheehan" was the top-ranked search term on Technorati.com, the search engine for blog postings.

                          The White House, meanwhile, has sought to cope with Sheehan's vigil without abandoning its strategy for dealing with the families of troops who have died. On a number of occasions, Bush has met with bereaved relatives — including some who have challenged him sharply on the war — but he has done so privately, away from news cameras and reporters.

                          Sheehan, a Vacaville, Calif., resident who opposed the war even before her son's death, was a member of one such group in June 2004. She came away from that meeting dissatisfied and angry.

                          "We wanted [the president] to look at pictures of Casey, we wanted him to hear stories about Casey, and he wouldn't. He changed the subject every time we tried," Sheehan said. "He wouldn't say Casey's name, called him: 'your loved one.' "

                          Sheehan, a co-founder of the antiwar group Gold Star Families for Peace, has said she would remain in Crawford until she got to see Bush face to face.

                          Until a cloudburst forced her to move to Peace House early Wednesday morning, Sheehan had been camping in a tent along a road about two miles from Bush's Prairie Chapel Ranch. On Saturday, the day she arrived in Crawford, two senior White House aides — national security advisor Stephen Hadley and deputy chief of staff Joe Hagin — left the ranch to meet with her on a dusty road for 45 minutes.

                          That, she said, was not satisfactory.

                          By Wednesday night, Sheehan had given so many interviews that she was sucking on lozenges to soothe an inflamed throat. Her ears were sore from cradling a telephone. Her media advisor, newly arrived from San Francisco, said Sheehan had developed a fever.

                          None of that stopped her. Whether talking to newspaper reporters, People magazine or radio and television interviewers — some from as far away as Japan — she was relentlessly on message.

                          "I don't believe his phony excuses for the war," she said of Bush in an interview with a CBS reporter for the network's Northern California affiliates. "I want him to tell me why my son died.

                          "If he gave the real answer, people in this country would be outraged — if he told people it was to make his buddies rich, that it was about oil."

                          Sheehan is certainly not the first to denounce the president over the war. From the beginning, activists have been outspoken in criticizing Bush's policy and his stated reasons for sending U.S. troops into Iraq.

                          For the moment however, the personal nature of Sheehan's protest — with its edge of raw emotion — and the concentration of news media staked out in Crawford, where Bush is spending much of August, have combined to raise her voice above the crowd.

                          "Anything that focuses media and public attention on Iraq war casualties day after day — particularly [something] that is a good visual for television, like a weeping Gold Star mother — is a really bad thing for President Bush and his administration," said independent political analyst Charlie Cook.

                          "Americans get a little numb by the numbers of war casualties, but when faces, names and families are added, it has a much greater effect," he said.

                          "Cindy Sheehan has tapped into a latent but fervent feeling among some in this country who would prefer that we not engage our troops in Iraq," said Republican strategist Kellyanne Conway, president of the Polling Company, based in Washington.

                          "She can tap into what has been an astonishingly silent minority since the end of last year's presidential contest. It will capture attention."

                          But other analysts predicted that Sheehan would soon fade from the scene.

                          "The president has an Iraq problem, but I don't think it's much worsened by Mrs. Sheehan," said professor Stephen Hess of George Washington University. "One Gold Star mother is a sympathetic figure, but collectively — as Gold Star Families for Peace — she is a movement and, as such, can be countered by a countermovement.

                          "I think the president might have defused the situation if he had invited her in instantly," Hess said, predicting that GOP strategists would soon mount a counterattack.

                          Already, there were signs of just that.

                          Some have suggested that Sheehan is disloyal to criticize the president in time of war. Even in Vacaville, Sheehan said, some people say she is shaming her son's memory. Conservative blogger Michelle Malkin disdainfully called the activists promoting Sheehan "grief pimps."

                          The antiwar activists who have rushed to Sheehan's side are all too well aware of the danger that her moment in the spotlight could become just another partisan shouting match.

                          Said Tom Matzzie of MoveOn.org: "Cindy reached out to us. We're e-mailing our members about her story today, running a print ad in Waco [Texas]. Cindy is a morally pure voice on the war, so we're trying to keep the focus on her and not jump in and turn it into a political fight."

                          Since Sheehan arrived in Crawford, Peace House has been transformed into a beehive.

                          On the porch, bottles of water — and a huge box of collapsible pink umbrellas — were waiting Wednesday to be ferried out to "Camp Casey," the muddy staging area along Prairie Chapel Road where Sheehan and about 100 of her supporters were gathered.

                          On a table in the living room were stacks of white T-shirts that read "BUSH … Talk to Cindy! Moms and Vets Will Stop the War!"

                          In the tiny kitchen, two women busily chopped carrots and celery as they prepared to feed a growing cadre of activists. Other volunteers talked on their cellphones, coordinating with supporters around the country.

                          There was much speculation about "other moms" and parents of troops serving in the war coming to join Sheehan, although no one seemed to know for certain. "A busload is coming from Seattle," one woman called out.

                          Stephanie Frizzell, 30, said she drove from Dallas with her son, Julian, 4, "to provide support for Cindy." They met last weekend at a Dallas convention of veterans for peace.

                          According to Ann Wright, who identified herself as a former U.S. diplomat who resigned to protest the war, Sheehan seemed to make a spontaneous decision to come to Crawford while she was addressing the convention Friday.

                          Wright said many hands were raised, offering to join her mission.

                          As Sheehan put it Wednesday: "I just had the right idea in the right place at the right time."

                          *

                          Times staff writers Ronald Brownstein, Joel Havemann and Johanna Neuman in Washington contributed to this report.

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                          • Guitar Shark
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                            • Jan 2004
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                            #43
                            I really hope that moveon.org and radical anti-war protestors don't ruin Sheehan's message.
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                            Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                            Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                            • FORD
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                              I really hope that moveon.org and radical anti-war protestors don't ruin Sheehan's message.
                              How could they possibly do so? The right wing shitheads will trash the poor woman regardless. The Fear Channel stations in the area were planning a "Barbecue" (complete with burning crosses, no doubt) to mock Cindy Sheehan and the other mothers & veterans. The dumbasses were even counting on troops from Ft Hood to show up. Until someone with a brain reminded them that Casey Sheehan himself was from Ft Hood, and it would be highly unlikely that the men who served with him would turn against his mother.

                              Suddenly Fear Channel aborted their planned event. Go figure......

                              Seems to me that it's the hysterical right wingers who are trying to hijack this event. Not the left wingers.
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                              • Guitar Shark
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                                • Jan 2004
                                • 7579

                                #45
                                Originally posted by FORD
                                How could they possibly do so? The right wing shitheads will trash the poor woman regardless. The Fear Channel stations in the area were planning a "Barbecue" (complete with burning crosses, no doubt) to mock Cindy Sheehan and the other mothers & veterans. The dumbasses were even counting on troops from Ft Hood to show up. Until someone with a brain reminded them that Casey Sheehan himself was from Ft Hood, and it would be highly unlikely that the men who served with him would turn against his mother.

                                Suddenly Fear Channel aborted their planned event. Go figure......

                                Seems to me that it's the hysterical right wingers who are trying to hijack this event. Not the left wingers.
                                You either missed my point or are ignoring it. My point is that it is a lot easier for this issue to be buried if the normal anti-war protestor crowd takes center stage. Sheehan's story is much more compelling because she has nothing to gain from her actions, and no political agenda to promote. She just wants an explanation for her son's death, which admittedly has political overtones, but it's a human emotion. Her story will resonate with people. I just don't want other groups to ruin her message.
                                ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                                Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                                Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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