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  • scamper
    Commando
    • May 2005
    • 1073

    #31
    Daschle sets timeline on bid for president

    By Kevin Woster, Journal Staff Writer

    Former U.S. Sen. Tom Daschle says he will make a decision whether to run for the Democratic nomination for president within six months.

    And right now, he’s not much interested in anything less than the top spot on his party’s ticket.

    “My time frame is five or six months,” Daschle said in an e-mail response to questions by the Journal that arrived Sunday evening. “And, no, I’m not interested in vice president or the cabinet.”

    Daschle, a former minority and majority leader in the U.S. Senate, has solid national fund-raising connections and strong ties with Democratic officials. But Daschle said his greatest motivation has been the amount of encouragement he gets to make a run for the White House.

    “I guess what keeps me going is the amazing number of people who tell me — in airports, restaurants, grocery stores and on the streets — that they hope I will do it, along with the belief that I would be a good candidate and president,” Daschle said in the e-mail.

    Daschle also said he is deeply troubled by the Bush administration’s current handling of the war on terror, the state of U.S. military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan and the worsening situation in Iran.

    “We are not winning in Iraq,” Daschle said. “I think we need to be very concerned about Afghanistan. We could lose it. And Iran is deeply disconcerting.”

    Political-science professors Jon Schaff of Northern State University in Aberdeen and Bob Burns of South Dakota State University in Brookings agreed Monday that even though Daschle says he isn’t interested in the job of vice president, he probably would take it.

    “Any serious candidate for the presidency has to say he’s not interested in VP. He’s interested in the top job, not playing second fiddle,” Schaff said. “My suspicion is that if Tom Daschle was asked by the nominee, he would take it.”

    Burns agreed that Daschle would likely accept the second spot on the ticket. And Burns said Daschle also might look seriously at the right cabinet position if a Democrat were elected president.

    “Something like secretary of defense or state would be hard to turn down,” Burns said. “His greatest quality as a Senate leader was his ability to listen and really hear other people, and that would be a great strength in dealing with other nations.”

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49567

      #32
      Originally posted by POJO_Risin
      Like I said...I can't imagine Gore being taken serious by anyone on either aisle for many...many reasons...

      Edwards has always been an enigma to me...

      He's a guy who came to politics late in life, but came to politics for the right reasons...

      problem with Edwards is that...whether he agrees or disagrees with what Kerry did...he's forever connected to Kerry...

      and Kerry is, without a doubt...someone who should NEVER, EVER be taken seriously as a presidential candidate...

      he has talked about reaching across the aisle...and quite frankly...never...ever will...

      I'm just sick and tired of both the neo-con right wing bullshit...and the far leftist crap that centers on the others sucking crank...

      frankly...if neither side can see ANYTHING good in the other side is the fundamental reason why this fucking country can't get on track across the board. It is feasible for grown men with different views of the world to be able to see SOMETHING worthwhile from those very different views...in particular...if it ACTUALLY HELPS THE COUNTRY...

      My point simply being...is we need a candidate with a solid agenda...that's not so fundamentally rooted in the simple fact that they despise the other side...

      Gore? Are you or anyone else going to tell me that he's NOT that person? This bitter fuck would be lame duck from day one...no matter how you spin it...and would be the death knell of the democratic party...

      Edwards?...I think that you could still look at him as a viable candidate for the dems for many reasons...but on a ticket with Gore would place him smack in the same position as he was in last year...

      As for the Republicans...we'll see...there in an interesting position right now over the next 3 years...

      Like I've said...this country was most effective when the 2 party system forced each other to actually look at each other without causing the entire country to drain it's own blood while they did it. It was actually nice when a party's fucking platform was more than..."Those guys suck..."

      but of course...if you don't have a platform, and the others platform his hitting bumps...well fuck...your rating points won't go up...but may skyrocket by staying the same...

      fucking ridiculous...

      okay...enough ranting about this horseshit...
      Interesting points...

      The thing is though, a film about GORE and the environment is coming out soon. I know nothing about it, I only heard one of the 70,000 political pundits on TV saying that the film will pump up his star...

      And if I lost an election while winning the popular vote, I'd be a little bitter too. LOL

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      • Warham
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Mar 2004
        • 14589

        #33
        In reality, Gore should have won in a landslide because of the so-called eutopia during the Clinton years.

        Either Gore was a lousy candidate, or the Clinton years really weren't so golden.

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        • EAT MY ASSHOLE
          Veteran
          • Feb 2006
          • 1887

          #34
          Originally posted by Warham
          eutopia.

          "Utopia".

          Originally posted by Warham

          Either Gore was a lousy candidate, or the Clinton years really weren't so golden.

          They were pretty good. His middle-east policy was sound, aside from the very end, when he was concerned how policy would influence the 2000 elections. And the country WAS heading towards recession at the time of the 2000 elections, and gore completely fumbled his campaign
          a) by ignoring Clinton and not letting Bill stump for him until the very last minute, and
          b) having Lieberman on the ticket. That upset the base, and made some potential Gore voters turn to nader instead.
          RIM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          • Warham
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Mar 2004
            • 14589

            #35
            Sorry about that spelling gaff.

            Why would anybody care who the vice-presidential candidate is?

            I can mention Dan Quayle here.

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            • Terry
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jan 2004
              • 12136

              #36
              Nah.

              Perception on Gore is a guy who is a loser even when he wins.

              2004 would have been the time for Gore to make another run. Comebacks separated by two or more election cycles are pretty much limited to Nixon.

              If the Dems do want a chance in hell in 2008, they'd better not bother nominating Hillary.
              Scramby eggs and bacon.

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 59649

                #37
                Originally posted by Warham
                Sorry about that spelling gaff.

                Why would anybody care who the vice-presidential candidate is?

                I can mention Dan Quayle here.
                Dan Quayle is an idiot, but at least his beliefs are consistent with most of the Republican party, so the Republicans wouldn't have a problem with him.

                Joe Lieberman's beliefs are also consistent with most of the Republican party. That's a problem when you're on the Democratic ticket.

                And Holy Joe is only getting worse. That's why he's got a primary challenger this time around. And even the Republican candidate who may or may not enter the race is more "liberal" than Joe.

                Seriously, you guys can have him.
                Eat Us And Smile

                Cenk For America 2024!!

                Justice Democrats


                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • Warham
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 14589

                  #38
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  Dan Quayle is an idiot, but at least his beliefs are consistent with most of the Republican party, so the Republicans wouldn't have a problem with him.

                  Joe Lieberman's beliefs are also consistent with most of the Republican party. That's a problem when you're on the Democratic ticket.

                  And Holy Joe is only getting worse. That's why he's got a primary challenger this time around. And even the Republican candidate who may or may not enter the race is more "liberal" than Joe.

                  Seriously, you guys can have him.
                  Lieberman's not angry enough. That's his problem. He doesn't get all red-faced and talk about impeachment or censure, like Russ Feingold does, only to be run off the Senate floor by Arlen Spector when asked to actually debate the issues.

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                  • amadeus
                    Head Fluffer
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 204

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Warham
                    Lieberman's not angry enough. That's his problem. He doesn't get all red-faced and talk about impeachment or censure, like Russ Feingold does, only to be run off the Senate floor by Arlen Spector when asked to actually debate the issues.
                    It seems like NOTHING ever riles Lieberman-it's like he's on this even keel no matter what. Russ Feingold reminds you of the guy who picks the fight but expects someone else to finish it for him.

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 59649

                      #40
                      Actually, Lieberman (like most Republicans) was angry when Bill Clinton got his dick sucked. He was all for impeaching Clinton over that, but doesn't even want to censure Bush for things far more serious.
                      Eat Us And Smile

                      Cenk For America 2024!!

                      Justice Democrats


                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • Guitar Shark
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 7579

                        #41
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        Actually, Lieberman (like most Republicans) was angry when Bill Clinton got his dick sucked. He was all for impeaching Clinton over that, but doesn't even want to censure Bush for things far more serious.
                        Where did you hear that Lieberman was "for" Clinton's impeachment?
                        ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                        Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                        Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                        • Terry
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 12136

                          #42
                          Lieberman just has no charisma, bottom line. Guy has a droning speaking style that energizes nobody.
                          Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32942

                            #43
                            Gore is the puppet of the left and Edwards is an ambulence chaser. I would vote for Hillary over these two assholes anyday. At least Hillary has a brain.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • POJO_Risin
                              Roth Army Caesar
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 40648

                              #44
                              popular vote...blah...blah...blah...

                              c'mon nick...bitter sure...but he turned into a 6 year raging cunt...

                              If that's who the dems put up for a run...the reps could put up GHBush's ass lint and they'd win...

                              a Gore ticket is a fucking loser...

                              of course...it's three years away...so you never know how things would change...

                              and that's just my opinion...

                              I think there are more viable options on the democratic side...that will start showing themselves over the next few months...

                              but it better be well thought out...

                              as far as Hillary goes...and the brains comment...well...I'm to fucking tired to go there...
                              "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                              • POJO_Risin
                                Roth Army Caesar
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 40648

                                #45
                                and I don't believe that Gore is a puppet...he's many things...but a puppet he's not...

                                and there's a fuck of a lot more to Edwards than the spin has indicated...the lawyer deal gets blown way out of fucking proportion...

                                he just got caught in learning politics...no more...no less...
                                "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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