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Maybe i'll have to attend a tea bagger event...As an American that loves this country and those I share it with, I would NOT have allowed that man to be attacked like that.
He is the person we should be standing up for and defending.
He was spoken to with no respect and made an example of to prove a political point.
Shameless, but it still doesn't make me a supporter of the bill that is now law.
I support REAL reform, but we aren't getting that with this new law.
Those who stood there yelling and ignored how he was treated are cowards, and those addressing them need their teeth knocked out.
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LOL Yeah, the retarded compete for the "risk pool" angle. Yeah, that would work! I mean, the skies the limit for insuring people with cancer...
The "GOP solution" was nothing but a pile of shit to fend off the argument that they were the party of no and pretty much completely whored out to corporate lobbyists whereas the Democrats are only partially whored out to lobbyists...Comment
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Then you've just admitted the current Health Care Bill ISN'T socialist, since it regulates insurance companies much like they're utilities...
How is the CURRENT FUCKING SYSTEM NOT DRIVING US INTO RUIN???!!!Now don't get me wrong, I'd like to see everyone in this country covered by affordable effective healthcare. Like I said in a post above, it's just how to go about it without driving this country into economic ruin. And no, I don't believe universal healthcare is the answer.
The CBO has stated that this bill will ultimately cut the national debt and reduce spending. But go back to misrepresenting the actual facts...Comment
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"Two weeks before the House vote, the Congressional Budget Office released its estimate of Obama's budget, including its health-care program. From 2011 to 2020, the cumulative deficit is almost $10 trillion. Adding 2009 and 2010, the total rises to $12.7 trillion. In 2020, the projected annual deficit is $1.25 trillion, equal to 5.6 percent of the economy (gross domestic product)."
Health Care Reform: Obama's Financial Folly - Newsweek.comComment
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That's misleading. Nick said the health bill would have a net effect of lowering it. The rest of the budget may have a net result of raising it, but that doesn't mean it's because of this bill.
Regardless, I still think we should only be passing budgets that do not raise the debt. I don't mind spending money on things we think are important, as long as other areas are cut or taxes are raised (or both).
It's a shame that there aren't enough credible people that run for congress/presidency on a platform of eliminating the national debt to make a difference.Comment
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I don't really care what you believe.
I believe the current system is fucked, and is bleeding us at least as dry. And doing something, trying something like the current health care legislation--as flawed as it is--is a step in the right direction and that the problems can be minimized...
The funny thing is, other countries seem to be able to manage their budgets while still providing universal health coverage...Comment
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Is that so ??Comment
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Naturally Elvis has never been out of Memphis, so how would he know?
I have always said I vote on issues, not party lines. And beyond that, I do not always agree with every aspect of an issue.
In this case, I do not agree at all with FORCING people to buy health insurance. That is up to an individual. That part of the legislation sounds to me like something the insurance companies lobbied hard for.
Hell, I saw a news item just yesterday somewhere where the headline said insurance coverage for young adults was going to go up an average of 17%.
What is fucked is the insurance companies are taking vengeance on the consumer to protect their fucking outrageous profit margins because the Gummint is trying to force them to change their ways.Comment
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I would agree that something needed to be done, and I also agree that there are some really good things in this new law that will help...but it isn't enough and needs to be disected to remove the things that go against the will and freedoms of the people. Forcing people to buy anything is wrong on so many fundamental levels, but is it Un-Constitutional???
According to some of the language contained in the Constitution, as long as the actions are deemed to be for the best welfare of the people, it isn't. that said, I'm quite certain the Supreme Court will rule as such when the case reaches them.
A bigger question regarding the funding is, is right now the proper time to impose such legislation with unemployment rising to record levels and the economy in the shitter?
Absolutely not...and that doesn't require a degree in economics to see.
In fact, anyone with any kind of sense at all will see, and agree, that this action is going to cost people their jobs and/or current health care coverage because bigger companies will simply be faced with canceling their current plans or cutting back the number of employees.
I'll bet my money that they'll choose to layoff before cutting benefits.
Small business won't be as effected because the truth is, most of them don't even have a plan in place that won't cost the employees their entire weekly paycheck as it is.
The bill could have been more perfect and a hell of a lot more targeted at actually reforming the broken pieces of the system.
If this doesn't halt premiums immediately, it's virtually useless in MY humbled opinion. If premiums are going to continue to rise, and ALL predictions are saying they will by double digits...what was the point beyond a major tax increase?Comment
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