Healthcare Reform Bill IS THE Law

[Cathedral]

Oh, and it should be pointed out that if you are one of the many people that actually get a tax refund every year...YOU won't be funding this new legislation because you have absolute ZERO tax liability.

The number of refunds increased by 10% this year by the way.

Those who got a refund, in most cases, got back way more than they paid in.
This never made sense to me, but there was a time when I was a recipient of this phenominon and it helped out BIG time.

I owed a bit less this year, but I still owed and THAT sucked, lol.

[Blackflag]

Oh, and it should be pointed out that if you are one of the many people that actually get a tax refund every year...YOU won't be funding this new legislation because you have absolute ZERO tax liability.

[LoungeMachine]

Oh, and it should be pointed out that if you are one of the many people that actually get a tax refund every year...YOU won't be funding this new legislation because you have absolute ZERO tax liability.

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Yeah, ummm...

Many people whoget refunds have tax liability, and paid income tax.....
However their withholding was greater than their liability.

C'mon Catheter. You know better

[Cathedral]

Well, that's almost true, it'll cost you around $3,000 in "fine's" , uh, "taxes", doh, I mean "fee's" if you DON'T have insurance.

[Cathedral]

Yeah, ummm...

Many people whoget refunds have tax liability, and paid income tax.....
However their withholding was greater than their liability.

C'mon Catheter. You know better

True in many cases, but not most cases.

lol@Catheter...been awhile.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Oh, and it should be pointed out that if you are one of the many people that actually get a tax refund every year...YOU won't be funding this new legislation because you have absolute ZERO tax liability.

The number of refunds increased by 10% this year by the way.

Those who got a refund, in most cases, got back way more than they paid in.
This never made sense to me, but there was a time when I was a recipient of this phenominon and it helped out BIG time.

I owed a bit less this year, but I still owed and THAT sucked, lol.

i had about a $5,00 dollar swing this year. used to receiving $2-3k every year in returns and ended up paying out $2k. coarse, i wasn't payin' attention to my paystubs, and obama's plan to increase my paycheck went unnoticed by mmyself until taxtime this year.

[LoungeMachine]

Oh, and it should be pointed out that if you are one of the many people that actually get a tax refund every year...YOU won't be funding this new legislation because you have absolute ZERO tax liability.

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But you said they had ZERO liability....

[Cathedral]

But you said they had ZERO liability....

True, I was wrong. When I was typing that I orginally had "little to No" liability.
Should have just gone with that.

You're right, I should have known better.

[Blackflag]

Dude, what the fuck.

Everybody should be paying at the end of the year - everybody. Unless you don't have a clue, which is true for a lot of people I know. Only a complete dumbass gets a return.

But that's just a numbers game, that has nothing to do with whether or not you have tax liability.

I'm not sure how we got on this topic?

[Angel]

The funny thing is, other countries seem to be able to manage their budgets while still providing universal health coverage...

Is that so ??

Yes... it is so...

[Blackflag]

Yes... it is so...

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2186rank.html

Canada - 72%.

/owned

[Blaze]

[Seshmeister]

Like Hell I'm Going To Let Some Black President Help Me Pay For Dialysis | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Like Hell I'm Going To Let Some Black President Help Me Pay For Dialysis

By Dan Laird
November 24, 2009 | ISSUE 45•48

I take pride in who I am. Always have, always will. I've worked hard my whole life and have never taken anyone's charity, and I'm not about to start now, no matter what. I'm telling you, there's no way I'm going to sit back and let some black president of the United States try to devise a structure to help me pay for the dialysis treatment I so desperately need to survive.

Not over my dead body.

Just who does this Afro-American occupant of the highest office in the land think he is, anyway? Look, I've got nothing against black people, but some of them act like the whole world owes them something. For example, important government subsidies on my dialysis.

You know, I don't recall asking for some black commander in chief to embrace protections that would prohibit insurance companies from dropping my coverage on a whim and operating as if my continued existence on earth were nothing more than a strategic liability. Plus, if I go along with this progressive health-benefits scheme, he'll probably hold it over my head every time I receive vital care with the aid of the government to which I already pay taxes.

Sorry. I've got too much self-respect for that.

Obama needs to know that there's still one American willing to watch his body drown in its own deadly internal toxins rather than have long-overdue reform crammed down his throat.

Fact is, nobody wants some too-big-for-his-britches black president butting in to suggest that everyone, including me, needs to be treated with dignity. Yet this Obama thinks he can just waltz in and and tinker with a health care system that destroys people like myself every single day.

Can you imagine what'd it be like if he weren't just half black?

Seriously, when Obama's done drumming up support for legislation that might allow me to see my daughter graduate from college and prevent me from dying before my 50th birthday, what's next on the agenda? Will he try to keep my life's savings from evaporating in a stock market that operates free of serious governmental oversight? Is there any aspect of capitalism run amok that this guy won't tamper with? Really, Obama, thanks but no thanks. The last person I need help from is some black leader of the federal government in a position to perhaps improve my quality of life.

The worst part is that I'll have to put up with this guy being a black president for at least three more years. I guess all I can do is try to hold out for the 2012 election. Maybe then we'll get a white president back in office. Maybe he'll have the common decency to let me suffer in peace.

[BigBadBrian]

Bethlehem Hospital: Smokers Need Not ApplyBETHLEHEM, Pa. (CBS3/AP) ―


St. Luke's Hospital & Health Network in Bethlehem plans to stop hiring new employees who are smokers.

St. Luke's Hospital & Health Network in Bethlehem says it hopes to improve the health of its 7,000 employees and reduce health costs.

Beginning May 1, all prospective employees will be screened for nicotine and will be ineligible for a job if they test positive. Anyone rejected can take the test again in six months and be considered for employment. Current employees will not be affected.

"We decided as an organization the right thing to do for us is to screen these applicants and if they test positive for nicotine, they won't be eligible for hire at that point in time," Bob Zimmel, the hospital's senior vice president of human resources said.

Zimmel says he proposed the policy about a month and a half ago after hearing about a similar rule in Cleveland. He says the policy will be good for business as well as health, since it will reduce health insurance claims.

"I'm sure some people will challenge us and we'll handle it accordingly when it happens," Zimmel said.
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This will begin happening more and more as companies cut the risks of those they have to cover with this new healthcare abomination. A good move if you think about it. Let's get rid of the lard asses also.

[Seshmeister]

That is a fucking disgrace.

I hope Bob Zimmel dies whilst out jogging.