Popular Teacher Fatally Shot After Entering Wrong House

[FORD]

My skeptical mind wonders if the 31 year old "award winning teacher" (as if that makes a difference) was there to have sex with the man's daughter and was cut off at the pass, so to speak...

Is your skeptical mind back on Oxycontin?

If Park broke into the house to rape the man's daughter, then the shooter would have said so, because THAT would have provided a valid reason to shoot him.

[ELVIS]

Would it? and did I say rape ??

[Anonymous]

I also like how Elvis hallucination is the one that makes most sense.

At least, there's a motive, so to speak.

Cheers! :bottle:

[Rikk]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm not sure the guy should be charged. The bottom line is, if I saw someone other than someone I know in our home, I would probably immediately treat it as a threat. Now mind you, I live in Chicago. But seriously...I can't say the guy had criminal intent in shooting him. It wasn't like, "Oh, you're in my home? Now I have a chance to shoot you and get away with it!" I'm sure he felt threatened, and probably the majority of times someone enters someone else's home without permission or knocking on the door, it's not innocent.

I do think it's tragic. But if you saw some stranger walking through your house, how would you feel?

Mind you, maybe shooting without asking any questions is the problem. Maybe that's where the "gun nut" mentality kicked in. Me? I would have aimed the gun at El Strango and said, "What the fuck are you doing here?" And he probably would have said, "Shit! I must have the wrong house!" And I would have had El Strango put his hands against the wall while aiming the gun at him and then...called the police. Shooting without asking questions only really makes sense if the person is running at you, etc.

Shit...I've changed my mind in one post! Why just shoot without asking or saying anything? What if it were a cop with a warrant? It could have been anything.

[kwame k]

A couple of things bother me about this story. First, who in the hell wouldn't comply when someone has a shotgun pointed at you......

D'Amico fired his hunting shotgun because Park did not comply with his demand that he leave the house and because he feared that Park was about to walk upstairs to where the D'Amicos had been sleeping, Burton said.

Second thing is......if Park was in the wrong house and there was a party going on in the "right" house, wouldn't he find it weird that no lights were on and nobody was up.

[FORD]

Would it? and did I say rape ??

If it was consensual sex, then that would make the shooting a murder. Of course this whole scenario is pointless speculation, since nothing in the above article says the homeowner had any children. Only the man and his wife are mentioned as being in the house at the time.

[Anonymous]

A couple of things bother me about this story. First, who in the hell wouldn't comply when someone has a shotgun pointed at you......

Second thing is......if Park was in the wrong house and there was a party going on in the "right" house, wouldn't he find it weird that no lights were on and nobody was up.

That's why I keep saying that commenting about this is one thing, but judging one or the other is painfully retarded.

Remember - EVERYTHING that is going through your mind & every conclusion you arrive to are simply hallucinations.

SOMETHING happened.

Cheers! :bottle:

[ELVIS]

But if you saw some stranger walking through your house, how would you feel?

Afraid and like shooting first and asking questions later...

Not that that's how I would react, but I would be tempted to do just that...

[ELVIS]

If it was consensual sex, then that would make the shooting a murder. Of course this whole scenario is pointless speculation, since nothing in the above article says the homeowner had any children. Only the man and his wife are mentioned as being in the house at the time.

Ok, his wife...

[ELVIS]

But it does say they were sleeping...

[LoungeMachine]

LMAO!

Really?

Funny to you?

[Igosplut]

Wrong.

Deadly force is only justified when one's life is threatened.

Wrong. It vary's state to state. Some give you the right to defend "Property" as well as life and limb (in your home). Others (like MA) give you no legal rights to defend anything including your life in your own home no matter how threatening the situation.

Simple breaking and entering is not grounds for use of deadly force, except if this teacher came after the homeowner with a knife, gun, or other weapon...which I doubt happened.

Again, it is in certain states. Without two sides to the story, it's all conjecture. The article paints it as "A beloved elementary school teacher having too much too drink wandering into the wrong house and being immediately shot by the home owner".

It could just as easily said: "A Highly intoxicated man unknown to the homeowner barges into the home, ignoring multiple demands from the owner to stop, rambling incoherently, then looked to be headed for the upstairs bedroom where his wife was sleeping."

It's all in the wording... Some of you should know that very well. And I'm not defending either person here. Just trying to see both sides of a bad situation.

Just the fact that this teacher was in his house is not grounds to blast him.

At least that's what we were taught.

Charge the homeowner with manslaughter at the minimum.

I would say he didn't know the guy was a harmless teacher, any more than the teacher knew he was in the wrong house.

Even after the fact it's not so easy to know what exactly SHOULD have transpired. It was possibly put in the best way by the Assistant Police Chief Timothy M. Green:

"There are winners and losers in life," Green said. "But any way you look at this case, the outcome is bad for everyone involved."

[jhale667]

Doesn't anyone shoot to wound these days?? WTF?

[Cathedral]

First of all, I don't enter anyone's home without them answering the door and letting me in, especially if the lights are off.

Secondly, you have to consider that maybe these people have been victimized in their own home in the past. It's great that this guy was a teacher, but I wonder how smart he was to just enter the home.

It is plausible to assume that if there are only two occupants in a home, and both are in bed, that someone entering at night would be considered a threat. Ya see, it isn't so much looking at the situation and saying, "he was just in the wrong house and there was no threat", put yourself in the shoes of the shooter...To him, the intruder was a threat.

Personally, I would have yelled, "Who the fuck is there?", and if I got no answer, I'd be ready to shoot, shame on you for staying quiet.
Also, If I'm going to shoot at you, you had better believe I will be shooting to kill, and i'll tell ya why.

I've been friends with law enforcement officers for many years and they have all agreed that IF you EVER shoot someone in YOUR home you had better shoot to kill. the reason being is that if there is only one story to tell then your chances of NOT being charged with a crime are much better.
If a criminal enters your house and robs you, or assaults you, or your wife, and you shoot him and only wound him, he can file charges against YOU...and WIN in criminal AND civil court, judgements against you.

It happens every fucking day in America and the truth is, dead people can't speak.

The teacher in this instance, well, he made a fatal mistake because there is no way to determine whether the homeowner felt threatened or not, or to what extent.
He (the teacher) should have assessed the situation better before entering and knocked on the door, TO BE SAFE!!!

I voted the first option based on my perception of the situation should it happen to me.
If I feel my family is in danger I will act differently than if it were just myself because the responsibility to protect them increases the adrenaline rush. I may not react as i normally would as a result, but by no intentional fault of my own.

Questions I'd like answered before drawing a conclusion here are:
Did the shooter feel any remorse after knowing it was just a mistake?
Have these homeowners ever been victimized in their home in the past?

Typically, when something like this happens it is usually family shooting family because someone isn't where they were expected to be in the home and percieved as an intruder.

It's sad, my condolences to the teachers family, but he should have been more careful and knocked on the door before entering, especially at night.

[Anonymous]

Well put, cat.

Very well put.

Cheers! :bottle: