Whose country is this?

[LoungeMachine]

Listen cocksucker, simple question, that you keep avoiding: A cop stops a guy for speeding and asks for his ID. Driver has no ID. Should the cop be able to ask him if he's here legally, then verify that through records? And if he's here illegally, should be detained, then deported?

And the standard here is reasonable suspicion, not probable cause.

I haven't avoided any questions, mancrush.

And my PROBABLE CAUSE argument was with MAXI over his take that any cop can pull anyone over at anytime for any reason.

So either pay attention, or STFU.

I'm hoping for the latter.

[Guitar Shark]

A cop stops a guy for speeding and asks for his ID. Driver has no ID. Should the cop be able to ask him if he's here legally, then verify that through records? And if he's here illegally, should be detained, then deported?

And the standard here is reasonable suspicion, not probable cause.

Nothing wrong with that, IMO.

[MAX]

That if she feels someone is being mean to you, she'll step in front of you.



That's all.

Of course she would cos DG's also my alias duh. I thought that was also common knowledge around here?

[Blackflag]

I haven't avoided any questions, mancrush.

And my PROBABLE CAUSE argument was with MAXI over his take that any cop can pull anyone over at anytime for any reason.

So either pay attention, or STFU.

I'm hoping for the latter.

No answer to the question?

[MAX]

Man, MAX is full of apologies today for being generally stupid.

Here's one for which I will not be apologizing. Go fuck yourself.

[LoungeMachine]

, simple question,

: A cop stops a guy for speeding and asks for his ID. Driver has no ID. Should the cop be able to ask him if he's here legally, then verify that through records? And if he's here illegally, should be detained, then deported?



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Yes, yes, yes, and to the last part.....yes.

But that's not myconcern with this law.

MY concern, is a brown skin person is walking down the street, [not operating a motor vehicle] and is stopped and asked to produce documentation of citizenship while having done NOTHING wrong whatsoever, or anything to warrant a stop.

I'm not protecting "illegals" with this worry, I'm protecting the US Citizen from Neo-Gestapo tactics that don't seem to be toofar down the pike.



That's my opinion and fear of where we're headed.

[Blackflag]

Nothing wrong with that, IMO.

I don't have a problem with that, either. I thought that was already the case, but I must be wrong.

So if any state wants to pass a law saying, 'during a lawful stop or arrest...,' I'd have no problem with that. It sounds like what's throwing everybody off here is the possibility of stopping people for no reason just to check if they're legal. Take that possibility out, and the illegals' argument would be shit.

[Blackflag]

MY concern, is a brown skin person is walking down the street, [not operating a motor vehicle] and is stopped and asked to produce documentation of citizenship while having done NOTHING wrong whatsoever, or anything to warrant a stop.

The same thing can happen / does happen to white people. So that's a Fourth Amendment issue, not a racial issue.

So we're in agreement then - excuse me while I go drink some drano.

[MAX]

And my PROBABLE CAUSE argument was with MAXI over his take that any cop can pull anyone over at anytime for any reason.

As I said, I meant that cops regardlessly DO pull people over whenever they want.

[LoungeMachine]

- excuse me while I go drink some drano.

Mix it with some Triple Sec, muddle a couple of limes, and strain over ice.



Sweet dreams, mancrush.

[LoungeMachine]

The same thing can happen / does happen to white people. So that's a Fourth Amendment issue, not a racial issue.

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AZ is making it a racial issue.

Again, MY concern isn't even this poorly written law, per se.....

It's the next one, and the next one after that that it is paving the way for.



For ONCE I wish this country would try and tackle a problem without resorting to FEAR tactics.

[Blackflag]

I actually have testicles, so I can't have mixed drinks. You can have my umbrella though, fag.

[LoungeMachine]

Your insecurities are showing again, mancrush.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

AZ is making it a racial issue.


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how?

[LoungeMachine]

how?

Really?

Are they targetting SnowBirds from Canada with this law?