Whose country is this?

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Again, if Pete's Brother spends too much time in the sun, his skin turns brown and he's pulled over, I don't think racial profiling's going to even enter his mind.

i if spend too much time in the sun, i turn red. then i feel much more comfortable on the reservation.

[hambon4lif]

Tackling a problem starts with actually doing something about it --- and it appears AZ took the bull by the horns to tackle the problem.

Before this happened, people were endlessly complaining about the immigration problem, and what we were going to do about it. Then when someone steps up to resolve the problem, more complaining ensues...

It's a no-win situation. People are going to bitch, gripe, moan, and complain no matter what the fuck you do!

People are stupid!

[Blackflag]

Exactly, my buddy who's now SWAT told me back when he was doing traffic, "probable cause" could simply be a Grateful Dead sticker on a Subaru Outback. Now and by that token, are those dope smokin' reefer addicts going to cry cos they were unjustifiably profiled due to their own extremely poor hygiene?

Again, if Pete's Brother spends too much time in the sun, his skin turns brown and he's pulled over, I don't think racial profiling's going to even enter his mind.

If your friend is just a jerk-off who likes to stop people because it's more fun than eating a donut, I guess that's fun. But in terms of doing an actual job, there's no way somebody's going to be prosecuted for dope possession when the reasonable suspicion was a bumper sticker.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Exactly, my buddy who's now SWAT told me back when he was doing traffic, "probable cause" could simply be a Grateful Dead sticker on a Subaru Outback. Now and by that token, are those dope smokin' reefer addicts going to cry cos they were unjustifiably profiled due to their own extremely poor hygiene?

and if i get pulled over on my scoot, for bein' a dirty biker scumbag, and have my one hiiter box with me, i'm breakin' the law and must deal with that risk.

[chefcraig]

Really?

Are they targetting SnowBirds from Canada with this law?

We are talking Arizona, not Florida.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

they've all flown the coop now anyway.

[MAX]

If your friend is just a jerk-off who likes to stop people because it's more fun than eating a donut, I guess that's fun. But in terms of doing an actual job, there's no way somebody's going to be prosecuted for dope possession when the reasonable suspicion was a bumper sticker.

He's no "jerk off" he didn't state that's what HE DID. He just stated that a Grateful Dead sticker was enough probable cause to infact pull someone over if they wanted to do so.

I'll up the ante even more. My other alias (not the thome one) DG's son was once pulled over in Massa-fucking-chusetts cos he was driving a stereotypical low rider, bright color with a booming subwoofer. Now, the police pulled him over stating it was cos he was violating a noise ordinance. However, they in fact searched the car for drugs found ZERO and didn't give a citation for violating any noise ordinance. That's profiling and the kid is white.

[MAX]

they've all flown the coop now anyway.

How did pretty pink flamingos get into this discussion?

[chefcraig]

they've all flown the coop now anyway.

Then how come all these cars cutting me off have Quebec license plates? You know, the ones asking for free souvenirs?

[sadaist]

Do you have the text of it?

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

[Blackflag]

He's no "jerk off" he didn't state that's what HE DID. He just stated that a Grateful Dead sticker was enough probable cause to infact pull someone over if they wanted to do so.

They can pull somebody over because they don't like the color of your car, I guess. Cops are cocksuckers like that. But that doesn't mean it's Constitutional, it doesn't mean it's right, and it doesn't mean anything they find in your car would be admissible in court.

I'll up the ante even more. My other alias (not the thome one) DG's son was once pulled over in Massa-fucking-chusetts cos he was driving a stereotypical low rider, bright color with a booming subwoofer. Now, the police pulled him over stating it was cos he was violating a noise ordinance. However, they in fact searched the car for drugs found ZERO and didn't give a citation for violating any noise ordinance. That's profiling and the kid is white.

See above re: cocksuckers. Is your argument that the Arizona law sucks, because it gives them more authority to be cocksuckers?

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Then how come all these cars cutting me off have Quebec license plates? You know, the ones asking for free souvenirs?

alright, they've flown the az coop.

[MAX]

They can pull somebody over because they don't like the color of your car, I guess. Cops are cocksuckers like that. But that doesn't mean it's Constitutional, it doesn't mean it's right, and it doesn't mean anything they find in your car would be admissible in court.



See above re: cocksuckers. Is your argument that the Arizona law sucks, because it gives them more authority to be cocksuckers?

I have no argument with the AZ law whatsoever. I'm fucking for it and all the way. Odds are my state will soon be adopting something similar shortly. We have an extremely large Hispanic population as well and I'm also pretty sure that a few of them have slipped through the cracks and are not legal. I mean, we're their neighbors to the north. By that, I'm referring to Utah/Arizona. lol

I was simply stating that certain cops are going to pull whomever over for whatever reason and whenever they want anyway. They always have and they'll also shove a billy club up their ass. Is that right? No. Regardless whether the said profiled is fucking "brown" or not. Again, this shit is always out there and (unfortunately) will always be that way. Yes, it sucks. Nonetheless, I'm still for illegal's to be shown the fucking door when they're subsequently breaking the laws of Arizona and the U.S. of A.

[Blackflag]

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

Well, that's interesting. The moronic hayseeds actually have it both ways.

B. FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY
21 OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS
22 STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS
23 UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE,
24 WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON.


E. A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WITHOUT A WARRANT, MAY ARREST A PERSON
38 IF THE OFFICER HAS PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON HAS COMMITTED
39 ANY PUBLIC OFFENSE THAT MAKES THE PERSON REMOVABLE FROM THE UNITED STATES.



Lounge will like this part, although it's not harsh enough...

Sec. 6. Section 23-212, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended to read:
7 23-212. Knowingly employing unauthorized aliens; prohibition;

[Blackflag]

I have no argument with the AZ law whatsoever. I'm fucking for it and all the way. Odds are my state will soon be adopting something similar shortly. We have an extremely large Hispanic population as well. I mean, we're their neighbors to the north.

You can't stop somebody with no reasonable suspicion. Boom.

I was simply stating that certain cops are going to pull whomever over for whatever reason and whenever they want anyway. They always have and they'll also shove a billy club up their ass. Is that right? No. Regardless whether the said profiled is fucking "brown" or not. Again, this shit is always out there and (unfortunately) will always be that way. Yes, it sucks. Nonetheless, I'm still for illegal's to be shown the fucking door when they're subsequently breaking the laws of Arizona and the U.S. of A.

It is out there, and it's a violation. You can sue them, or at least have what they find is inadmissible in court. Do you really want a new law that approves the stupid illegal shit they already do?

Why not make a new law that they can stick mops up the asses of illegal aliens? They do that already, right? Why not. Fuck.