Whose country is this?

[chefcraig]

I'll up the ante even more. My other alias (not the thome one) DG's son was once pulled over in Massa-fucking-chusetts cos he was driving a stereotypical low rider, bright color with a booming subwoofer. Now, the police pulled him over stating it was cos he was violating a noise ordinance. However, they in fact searched the car for drugs found ZERO and didn't give a citation for violating any noise ordinance. That's profiling and the kid is white.

Not only do I support the police for pulling over these idiots with their trunk rattling stereos cruising around my neighborhood, I wish they'd unload several rounds into the stereo itself in addition to handing out a ticket. Imagine you are the guy strapped to a stretcher in an ambulance on the way to the hospital, your progress hampered by some asshole that won't get out of the way because his music is playing so loud that he can't hear the siren. Fuck profiling, this is common sense.

[MAX]

Why not make a new law that they can stick mops up the asses of illegal aliens? They do that already, right? Why not. Fuck.

Cos I'm not a big proponent of shoving anything up anyone's reluctant asshole that's less loving than a dildo.

[Mushroom]

I'll up the ante even more. My other alias (not the thome one) DG's son was once pulled over in Massa-fucking-chusetts cos he was driving a stereotypical low rider, bright color with a booming subwoofer. Now, the police pulled him over stating it was cos he was violating a noise ordinance. However, they in fact searched the car for drugs found ZERO and didn't give a citation for violating any noise ordinance. That's profiling and the kid is white.

The officer, without probable cause, probably asked DG's son if he could search the vehicle. And that's ok because the officer asked. DG's son likely said "yes" without knowing he could have in fact said "no," requiring the police to get a search warrant. In general, the police do not want to waste their time if their is no probable cause because they know the case does not hold up in court.

[MAX]

Not only do I support the police for pulling over these idiots with their trunk rattling stereos cruising around my neighborhood, I wish they'd unload several rounds into the stereo itself in addition to handing out a ticket. Imagine you are the guy strapped to a stretcher in an ambulance on the way to the hospital, your progress hampered by some asshole that won't get out of the way because his music is playing so loud that he can't hear the siren. Fuck profiling, this is common sense.

Ahhhhhhhhh... BUT and by that same token, how can these people (yes, I'm defending DG's son cos he was a kid at the time and he's a damn good man) be pulled over (like your ambulence scenerio) if they cannot in fact hear said sirens in the first place?

I don't like the loud, Eath-rattling thumpers either btw, just throwin' that out there. Does that mean deaf people shouldn't drive either cos they cannot hear an ambulence's siren? Food for thought?

[chefcraig]

Ahhhhhhhhh... BUT and by that same token, how can these people (yes, I'm defending DG's son cos he was a kid at the time and he's a damn good man) be pulled over (like your ambulence scenerio) if they cannot in fact hear said sirens in the first place?

I don't like the loud, Eath-rattling thumpers either btw, just throwin' that out there. Does that mean deaf people shouldn't drive either cos they cannot hear an ambulence's siren? Food for thought?

What does one have to do with the other? We are talking about people being responsible for their actions with regard to others, regardless of whether that person is a "damn good man". There is a federal ban prohibiting interstate truck drivers that are deaf, yet hearing impaired or deaf drivers are completely legal, and these folks use special mirrors and sound detection devices that flash a blinking light on the dashboard. As a result, these people have been statistically proven to be safer, more aware drivers than those with supposed "normal" hearing.

[FORD]

We are talking Arizona, not Florida.

Yep. Arizona's snowbirds come from Washington state. And they all "fly" back by April, because they don't wanna be anywhere near the desert when it hits 100 degrees.

[Blackflag]

Well, that was certainly a contribution to the thread.

[LoungeMachine]

Yep. Arizona's snowbirds come from Washington state. And they all "fly" back by April, because they don't wanna be anywhere near the desert when it hits 100 degrees.

When I had a home in Scottsdale, it was Michigan and Canadian license plates on the RV's, primarily.

And no, most AZ residents aren't tan.

You go from your air conditioned home to your air conditioned car to your air conditioned office in the summer.

Only the latino landscapers brave the summers

[PETE'S BROTHER]

east mesa, probably every canadian province, and 65% of montana and wyoming's population.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

and iowegians and cheeseheads

[FORD]

Aren't most of Mesa's residents from Utah?

(certainly spiritually, if not physically. Though I must grudgingly admit it's one of the cooler looking temples)

http://www.ldschurchtemples.com/mesa/

[PETE'S BROTHER]

and one block away, in all directions, it's "little mexico".

[Nickdfresh]

How about providing a path to legalization? Social Security benefits and Medicare are depleting. If they became legal citizens or permanent residents, they could pay FICA, income taxes, etc.

Most already pay income taxes.

[Nickdfresh]

Some do pay into the system because they work with fake Social Security numbers...

Gee. I wonder why that is?

[Nickdfresh]

the AZ law gives the state the power to address their immigration issue because the Federal Govt is not effective enough. it gives the state police the power to 1)...ask for ID under reasonable suspicion (which is nothing new, we already gave that power to the police), and then 2) detain that person if they cannot prove legal status.

Enjoy your taxpayer nightmare, and the huge draw on resources from local law enforcement preventing them from adequately going after actual criminals...