debunking the "it wasen't a plane that crashed into the pentagon"

[tobinentinc]

Originally posted by ELVIS
What do the French have to do with this topic ??

The guy who wrote the book saying it was false was french. Just wanted to spout off against them too. Any excuse I guess.

[ELVIS]

Oh, I see...:D

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
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Sorry babe, but your pics don't match up very well. In fact, it's almost as if you are trying to make the arguement against a plane hitting the pentagon.

Regardless, what I want you to consider is this. Two F-16 fighter jets were dispatched after the hijackings, arriving just too late to watch the second plane hit the WTC. Now here is the funny thing. F-16's don't leave base with half full tanks of gas, they leave with full tanks of gas. The fighter jet has a combat radius of over 1500 square miles. This means that those jets could have been upon the remaining two planes (Pennsylvania and the Pentagon plane) in SECONDS, yet they were called away. They let the other planes continue on to their fates.

Knowing these planes were hijacked and being used as missles, I have GOT to ask you WHY?????????????????? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY ???????

[ELVIS]

You are incorrect sir...

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by ELVIS
You are incorrect sir...

Uh... ...NO, I'm not!

[lucky wilbury]

Originally posted by Keeyth
Sorry babe, but your pics don't match up very well. In fact, it's almost as if you are trying to make the arguement against a plane hitting the pentagon.

Regardless, what I want you to consider is this. Two F-16 fighter jets were dispatched after the hijackings, arriving just too late to watch the second plane hit the WTC. Now here is the funny thing. F-16's don't leave base with half full tanks of gas, they leave with full tanks of gas. The fighter jet has a combat radius of over 1500 square miles. This means that those jets could have been upon the remaining two planes (Pennsylvania and the Pentagon plane) in SECONDS, yet they were called away. They let the other planes continue on to their fates.

Knowing these planes were hijacked and being used as missles, I have GOT to ask you WHY?????????????????? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY ???????

you relize you don't know what your talking about right? 1500 sq miles is a box of 10 miles by 150 miles or 150 mile wide box by 10 miles long. f 16 have an unlimated range since they can be refueled mid air but no air tankers were in the air on 9-11. but normally their range is about 2,100 nm or 2,425 miles and thats only if they stayed at cruising speeds the whole time but they didn't on 9-11 getting from nyc from otis. the faster they go the more fuel they burn. now lets not forget the planes from otis stayed in a cover pattern over nyc on 9-11 and they didn't leave. now take into account that there are almost 4,800 planes in the air at any given moment over the us with the ability to find 2 of those with out their transponders on is nill. no chance zero. without their transponders on all the become is light aircrat ala a cesna. they would have spent half the time chasing down piper cubs and false radar hits that were flocks of birds rather then finding any plane

[ELVIS]

Thank you Lucky...

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Keeyth
Sorry babe, but your pics don't match up very well.

They're not my pictures. They are the pictures on the site that I was asked to save and attached because someone was having computer problems

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by lucky wilbury
you relize you don't know what your talking about right? 1500 sq miles is a box of 10 miles by 150 miles or 150 mile wide box by 10 miles long. f 16 have an unlimated range since they can be refueled mid air but no air tankers were in the air on 9-11. but normally their range is about 2,100 nm or 2,425 miles and thats only if they stayed at cruising speeds the whole time but they didn't on 9-11 getting from nyc from otis. the faster they go the more fuel they burn. now lets not forget the planes from otis stayed in a cover pattern over nyc on 9-11 and they didn't leave. now take into account that there are almost 4,800 planes in the air at any given moment over the us with the ability to find 2 of those with out their transponders on is nill. no chance zero. without their transponders on all the become is light aircrat ala a cesna. they would have spent half the time chasing down piper cubs and false radar hits that were flocks of birds rather then finding any plane

Thank you for making my point for me on the fuel. They could have easily of made it to the other two planes!

I don't give a rats ass about the transponders. Air traffic control could have picked them up on radar just from being a chunk of metal in the sky. What, do you work for the Bush propoganda campaign?

[ELVIS]

You will never outsmart Lucky!

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat


They're not my pictures. They are the pictures on the site that I was asked to save and attached because someone was having computer problems

Well, to me those pictures show that no plane hit that building. Not at 250-600 miles per hour. It would have gone straight thru and beyond the middle of the building. Where are the wings? And what was that on the front lawn? A coke can? With no other debris anywhere around it?

Notice how the plane crashed into the Army side of the pentagon, not harming a hair on the head of the top brass? Very interesting...

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by ELVIS
You will never outsmart Lucky!

Been there. Done that.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Keeyth
Well, to me those pictures show that no plane hit that building. Not at 250-600 miles per hour. It would have gone straight thru and beyond the middle of the building. Where are the wings? And what was that on the front lawn? A coke can? With no other debris anywhere around it?

Notice how the plane crashed into the Army side of the pentagon, not harming a hair on the head of the top brass? Very interesting...

That's why you read the article. It's the pictures on the site to the article I was asked to put up here. Read the article and it explains it. I didn't say jack shit about anything.

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
That's why you read the article. It's the pictures on the site to the article I was asked to put up here. Read the article and it explains it. I didn't say jack shit about anything.

Hell if you remember correctly I POSTED that article in a previous thread a long time ago... ...I have read it, and I say the pictures go against what he is trying to debunk. the pics don't look like any plane hit the building is my point.

[lucky wilbury]

Originally posted by Keeyth
Thank you for making my point for me on the fuel. They could have easily of made it to the other two planes!

no they couldn't. they were down to under half amost a thrid of a tank since going to mach 1 and over burns fuel way fast. they would have fallen out of the sky because they were out of fuel.

Originally posted by Keeyth
I don't give a rats ass about the transponders. Air traffic control could have picked them up on radar just from being a chunk of metal in the sky. What, do you work for the Bush propoganda campaign?

do you even know what a transponder is? by your response i guess not. a transponder is a device on most aircrat that give the flt name,speed, altitude automatically. it's a tracking becon. most small planes don't have them they have to check in and identify themselves with air traffic control with they pass through radar coverage areas for airports. on 9-11 the planbes transponders were shut off so on radar all they would appear as is a small non commercial plane. you would have had every fighter in the us military casing down every person who was flying their pipers and cesnas etc etc. radar cand't tell the difference between planes