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  • BigBadBrian
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    • Jan 2004
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    Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later was denied by U.S. officials -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

    Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."
    Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

    At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours -- enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

    Watch "Special Report Investigates: Death and Deceit in Benghazi" on Fox News at 1 p.m. ET on Saturday, 3 p.m. on Sunday and 10 p.m. on Sunday.

    A Special Operations team, or CIF which stands for Commanders in Extremis Force, operating in Central Europe had been moved to Sigonella, Italy, but they were never told to deploy. In fact, a Pentagon official says there were never any requests to deploy assets from outside the country. A second force that specializes in counterterrorism rescues was on hand at Sigonella, according to senior military and intelligence sources. According to those sources, they could have flown to Benghazi in less than two hours. They were the same distance to Benghazi as those that were sent from Tripoli. Spectre gunships are commonly used by the Special Operations community to provide close air support.

    According to sources on the ground during the attack, the special operator on the roof of the CIA annex had visual contact and a laser pointing at the Libyan mortar team that was targeting the CIA annex. The operators were calling in coordinates of where the Libyan forces were firing from.

    Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday that there was not a clear enough picture of what was occurring on the ground in Benghazi to send help.
    "There's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here," Panetta said Thursday. "But the basic principle here ... is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on."
    U.S. officials argue that there was a period of several hours when the fighting stopped before the mortars were fired at the annex, leading officials to believe the attack was over.

    Fox News has learned that there were two military surveillance drones redirected to Benghazi shortly after the attack on the consulate began. They were already in the vicinity. The second surveillance craft was sent to relieve the first drone, perhaps due to fuel issues. Both were capable of sending real time visuals back to U.S. officials in Washington, D.C. Any U.S. official or agency with the proper clearance, including the White House Situation Room, State Department, CIA, Pentagon and others, could call up that video in real time on their computers.
    Tyrone Woods was later joined at the scene by fellow former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty, who was sent in from Tripoli as part of a Global Response Staff or GRS that provides security to CIA case officers and provides countersurveillance and surveillance protection. They were killed by a mortar shell at 4 a.m. Libyan time, nearly seven hours after the attack on the consulate began -- a window that represented more than enough time for the U.S. military to send back-up from nearby bases in Europe, according to sources familiar with Special Operations. Four mortars were fired at the annex. The first one struck outside the annex. Three more hit the annex.

    A motorcade of dozens of Libyan vehicles, some mounted with 50 caliber machine guns, belonging to the February 17th Brigades, a Libyan militia which is friendly to the U.S., finally showed up at the CIA annex at approximately 3 a.m. An American Quick Reaction Force sent from Tripoli had arrived at the Benghazi airport at 2 a.m. (four hours after the initial attack on the consulate) and was delayed for 45 minutes at the airport because they could not at first get transportation, allegedly due to confusion among Libyan militias who were supposed to escort them to the annex, according to Benghazi sources.

    The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi's fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces.

    Fox News has also learned that Stevens was in Benghazi that day to be present at the opening of an English-language school being started by the Libyan farmer who helped save an American pilot who had been shot down by pro-Qaddafi forces during the initial war to overthrow the regime. That farmer saved the life of the American pilot and the ambassador wanted to be present to launch the Libyan rescuer's new school.


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    • BigBadBrian
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 10625

      Hillary Repeats The Lie
      Three days after the deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton apparently pledged to the father of one of those killed she would seek justice -- against the maker of an anti-Islam film.

      Charles Woods, father of former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods who was killed in the attack, expressed disbelief in media interviews this week, as he began to speak out about comments made to him by administration officials at the memorial service held Sept. 14.
      Despite documents that indicated early on that militants were behind the attack on the U.S. Consulate, Woods described Clinton as being focused on the anti-Islam film that spurred protests elsewhere and was initially blamed for sparking the attack in Benghazi.
      "Her countenance was not good and she made this statement to me ... she said we will make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted," he said on host Glenn Beck's show, adding that she also apologized.
      Woods said he "could tell that she was not telling me the truth."

      A representative with the State Department did not respond to a request for comment.
      The account shows an apparent disconnect between evidence that extremists were involved in the attack -- including a newly released State Department email on the day of the attack saying the militant Ansar al-Sharia had claimed responsibility -- and the desire by some to focus strictly on the film as the cause.
      Woods' account also comes amid concerns on Capitol Hill that the administration has not done enough to go after those who actually committed the act of terror -- and may not have done enough to respond to requests for help on the night of the attack. Sources have separately told Fox News that a request for military back-up was denied by U.S. officials during that attack.
      Woods also spoke this week with radio host Lars Larson, and offered a similar account of the Sept. 14 memorial. He said Clinton "mentioned that the thing about, we're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video. That was the first time I had even heard about anything like that."
      Clinton and the rest of the administration made repeated reference to the video in their public comments in the days after the attack. U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice said on Sept 16 the attack was a "spontaneous" reaction to demonstrations over the video. The administration even funded an ad in Pakistan condemning the video.
      Intelligence officials have since given a mixture picture, saying the strike was a coordinated terror attack -- but also leaving open the door to the possibility that militants reacted opportunistically to the protests in Egypt at the time over the film.
      Woods also made some tough statements about President Obama's reaction when he met him during the memorial service.
      "He kind of just mumbled, you know, 'I'm sorry.' His face was looking at me, but his eyes were looking over my shoulder like he could not look me in the eye. And it was not a sincere, 'I'm really sorry, you know, that you're son died,' but it was totally insincere."
      Woods said shaking Obama's hand was "like shaking hands with a dead fish."


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      • BigBadBrian
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        • Jan 2004
        • 10625

        Attention: Media Bias...They're all in the tank for Obama

        Wednesday, ABC "World News" gave a dismissive 20 seconds of lip service to a blockbuster report that revealed State Department emails showing that the White House knew on September 11 that the assault on the Benghazi consulate was a terrorist attack. The emails documented that within two hours of the attack, the State Department had told the Obama administration that an Islamic militant group had claimed credit for this terrorist attack.
        This is news because White House press secretary Jay Carney said on September 14: “We have no information to suggest it was a pre-planned attack.” The emails show they did, in fact, have information suggesting a planned terrorist attack, yet President Obama and his spokesmen for days lied to the American people, falsely claiming it was a “spontaneous” attack spurred by a “video.”
        The email story broke Tuesday night on the "CBS Evening News." Since then, the Media Research Center reviewed all of ABC News' programs, and the network has almost completely refused to report this new evidence, giving it a scant 25 seconds on “Good Morning America” and 20 seconds on “World News” Wednesday night. “Good Morning America” skipped the story entirely on Thursday morning, but did commit nearly 2 minutes to the capture of a monkey in Florida. “World News” did not mention the emails on Thursday night.

        Yes, ABC News has covered the attacks in Benghazi but it is giving scant attention to the latest development concerning the release of emails.

        ABC is aiding and abetting the Obama administration’s cover-up of their deceitful response to the Benghazi terrorist attack. There is no bigger story than Obama’s Benghazi lie, and ABC, a so-called "news network," has absolutely no excuse for hiding the truth from the American people.

        The questions are simple: what did President Obama know? And when did he know it? These emails prove that either Obama knew it was a terrorist attack and lied about it for weeks, or his administration is historically incompetent. Either way, it’s major news and demands more than mere seconds of total coverage from one of the three major broadcast networks.

        ABC has been shielding Obama from the Benghazi fallout for weeks in order to help him win re-election, but the American people see right through it. Their corruption is as obvious as it is unforgivable.


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        • BigBadBrian
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          • Jan 2004
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          Father of Slain SEAL: Who Made the Decision Not to Save My Son?

          Charles Woods, the father of Tyrone Woods, who was killed in the 9/11 terrorist attack at the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, reveals details of meeting Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton at the publically broadcast memorial service for the slain Americans at Andrews Air Force Base only days after the attack. And, in a recent radio appearance, Woods publicly questions who made the call not to send in back-up forces to possibly save his son’s life, as well as the three other Americans killed in Benghazi (which includes the American ambassador to Libya).


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          “When [Obama] came over to our little area” at Andrew Air Force Base, says Woods, “he kind of just mumbled, you know, ‘I’m sorry.’ His face was looking at me, but his eyes were looking over my shoulder like he could not look me in the eye. And it was not a sincere, ‘I’m really sorry, you know, that your son died,’ but it was totally insincere, more of whining type, ‘I’m sorry.’”

          Woods says that shaking President Obama’s hands at his son’s memorial service was “like shaking hands with a dead fish.”

          “It just didn’t feel right,” he says of his encounter with the commander in chief. “And now that it’s coming out that apparently the White House situation room was watching our people die in real time, as this was happening,” Woods says, he wants answers on what happened—and why there was no apparent effort to save his son’s life.

          “Well, this is what Hillary did,” Woods continues. “She came over and, you know, did the same thing—separately came over and talked with me. I gave her a hug, shook her hand. And she did not appear to be one bit sincere—at all. And you know, she mentioned that the thing about, we’re going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video. That was the first time I had even heard about anything like that.”
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          • BigBadBrian
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jan 2004
            • 10625

            As usual, no worth-while rebuttal by the Liberals.

            Obama is not fit to be Commander-in-Chief.
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            • Nickdfresh
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              • Oct 2004
              • 49567

              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
              As usual, no worth-while rebuttal by the Liberals.

              Obama is not fit to be Commander-in-Chief.

              I didn't notice your horseshit, but I already stated what happened. BTW, posting it enlarged and bold doesn't make steaming bullshit more true. Nor does it change the fact that the Joint Chiefs are the ones that recommended not sending anyone in except for a highly elite counterterrorist team experienced in operating autonomously. Maybe if we had a few 19-year old marines dead everyone would be happy?

              Here, dummy:

              ASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military did not quickly intervene during the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya last month because military leaders did not have adequate intelligence information and felt they should not put American forces at risk, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Thursday.

              In his most extensive comments to date on the unfolding controversy surrounding the attack in Benghazi, Panetta said U.S. forces were on heightened alert because of the anniversary of 9/11 and prepared to respond. But, he said, the attack happened over a few hours and was over before the U.S. had the chance to know what was really occurring.

              "(The) basic principle is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on; without having some real-time information about what's taking place," Panetta told Pentagon reporters. "And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation."

              Panetta was referring to Gen. Carter Ham, the head of U.S. Africa Command, and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
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              • BigBadBrian
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                • Jan 2004
                • 10625

                Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                I didn't notice your horseshit, but I already stated what happened. BTW, posting it enlarged and bold doesn't make steaming bullshit more true.
                No, it won't make it true (although it is), but maybe you lib-tards will get Obama's dick out of your mouths and read it.


                Nor does it change the fact that the Joint Chiefs are the ones that recommended not sending anyone in except for a highly elite counterterrorist team experienced in operating autonomously.
                Oh, bullshit! Joint Chiefs my ass, this was that cunt Panetta that made any military call. Now our people around the world know that if they're in a jam that they'll get no help from the Obama Administration. What a bunch of fucking turds.
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                • Nickdfresh
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                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49567

                  Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                  No, it won't make it true (although it is), but maybe you lib-tards will get Obama's dick out of your mouths and read it.




                  Oh, bullshit! Joint Chiefs my ass, this was that cunt Panetta that made any military call. Now our people around the world know that if they're in a jam that they'll get no help from the Obama Administration. What a bunch of fucking turds.
                  So actually you're calling the JCS cowards, because some personally commented that they didn't think it was a good idea to send in anyone unless they were spec ops, and that the entire world was on alert for 9/11 and they were pinned down. Congratulations on your ignorant, politicized speculations...

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                  • BigBadBrian
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                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                    So actually you're calling the JCS cowards, because some personally commented that they didn't think it was a good idea to send in anyone unless they were spec ops, and that the entire world was on alert for 9/11 and they were pinned down. Congratulations on your ignorant, politicized speculations...
                    I'm not calling the JCS cowards....I'm calling them LIARS!!! Mere pawns of the Obama Administration. And as far as my speculation goes: you're welcome!
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                    • BigBadBrian
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                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10625

                      Lingering questions about Benghazi

                      This column has been updated with the administration’s lies.

                      The attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi has become a political football in the presidential campaign, with all the grandstanding and misinformation that entails. But Fox News has raised questions about the attack that deserve a clearer answer from the Obama administration.

                      Fox’s Jennifer Griffin reported Friday that CIA officers in Benghazi had been told to “stand down” when they wanted to deploy from their base at the annex to repel the attack on the consulate, about a mile away. Fox also reported that the officers requested military support when the annex came under fire that night but that their request had been denied.

                      The Benghazi tragedy was amplified by Charles Woods, the father of slain CIA contractor Tyrone Woods. He told Fox’s Sean Hannity that White House officials who didn’t authorize military strikes to save the embattled CIA annex were “cowards” and “are guilty of murdering my son.”

                      The Fox “stand down” story prompted a strong rebuttal from the CIA: “We can say with confidence that the agency reacted quickly to aid our colleagues during that terrible evening in Benghazi. Moreover, no one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate.”

                      So what did happen on the night of Sept. 11, when Woods, Ambassador Christopher Stevens and two others were killed? The best way to establish the facts would be a detailed, unclassified timeline of events; officials say that they are preparing one and that it may be released this week. That’s a must, even in the campaign’s volatile final week. In the meantime, here’s a summary of some of the issues that need to be clarified.

                      First, on the question of whether Woods and others were made to wait when they asked permission to move out immediately to try to rescue those at the consulate. The answer seems to be yes, but not for very long. There was a brief, initial delay — two people said it was about 20 minutes — before Woods was allowed to leave. One official said that Woods and at least one other CIA colleague were “in the car revving the engine,” waiting for permission to go. Woods died about six hours later, after he returned to the annex.

                      The main reason for the delay, several sources said, was that CIA officials were making urgent contact with a Libyan militia, known as the February 17 Brigade, which was the closest thing to an organized security force in Benghazi. The United States depends on local security to protect U.S. diplomatic facilities everywhere, and officials wanted to coordinate any response to the consulate attack. After this delay, Woods and his colleague proceeded to the consulate.

                      Here’s my question: Was it wise to depend on a Libyan militia that clearly wasn’t up to the job? Could it have made a difference for those under attack at the consulate if Woods had moved out as soon as he was, in one official’s words, “saddled and ready”?

                      Second, why didn’t the United States send military assistance to Benghazi immediately? This one is harder to answer. The CIA did dispatch a quick-reaction force that night from Tripoli, with about eight people, but it had trouble at first reaching the compound. One of its members, Glen Doherty, died along with Woods when a mortar hit the roof of the annex about 4 a.m.

                      What more could have been done? The Pentagon’s answer is that there wasn’t enough time to deploy forces that could have saved American lives. George Little, a spokesman for Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, told me on Wednesday, responding to an initial online version of this column: “Within a few hours, Secretary Panetta ordered all appropriate forces to respond to the unfolding events in Benghazi, but the attack was over before those forces could be employed.”

                      Administration officials argue that the military, in real life, isn’t a “911” rescue number. Two Joint Special Operations Command teams were moving that night to the Sigonella air base in Sicily, for quick deployment to Benghazi or any other U.S. facility in danger across North Africa. But officials say that the teams didn’t arrive in Sicily until Sept. 12, many hours after the Benghazi attack was over.

                      As for armed drones or AC-130 Spectre gunships, officials say that they were too far away to help. Unclassified data put the range of Predator and Reaper armed drones at 770 miles and 1,150 miles, respectively. The nearest known base for armed drones, in Djibouti, is about 1,700 miles from Benghazi. Regarding the Spectre gunships, Little said: “No AC-130 was within a continent’s range of Benghazi.”

                      If these rebuttals are accurate, that raises another troubling question: At a time when al-Qaeda was strengthening its presence in Libya and across North Africa, why didn’t the United States have more military hardware nearby?

                      Looking back, it may indeed have been wise not to bomb targets in Libya that night. Given the uproar in the Arab world, this might have been the equivalent of pouring gasoline on a burning fire. But the anguish of Woods’s father is understandable: His son’s life might have been saved by a more aggressive response, had one been possible. The Obama administration needs to level with the country about why it made its decisions.

                      A final, obvious point: The “fog of battle” that night was dense not just in Benghazi but also in Cairo, Tunis and elsewhere. As one official concedes, “The reports were all over the map that night, and there was a lot of confusion.” America needed better intelligence. That’s the toughest problem to address, but the most important. link
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                      • ELVIS
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                        This is like Fantasy Political Football™


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                        • Nickdfresh
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                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49567

                          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                          I'm not calling the JCS cowards....I'm calling them LIARS!!! Mere pawns of the Obama Administration. And as far as my speculation goes: you're welcome!
                          Okay, what should they have done? With whom, Petty Officer Hindsight?

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                          • Nickdfresh
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                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49567

                            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                            Lingering questions about Benghazi

                            This column has been updated with the administration’s lies.

                            ...
                            Basically the article confirms pretty much what the Admin and JCS have said, and only offers the 20/20 hindsight of 'why was there not more military assets nearby?' That's the cusp of your argument?

                            Even if there were armed Predators and AC-130's, what could they have done with a compound overrun by a terrorist-militia? Kill friendlies and civilians like the 130's did in Panama in 89'? The CIA (paramilitary) reaction team was outnumbered at least 2:1 and clearly outgunned...
                            Last edited by Nickdfresh; 11-01-2012, 10:09 AM.

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                            • FORD
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                              • Jan 2004
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                              So when does Darrel "Joe McCarthief" Issa start investigating Obama for causing Hurricane Sandy?

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                              • jhale667
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                                • Aug 2004
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                                The Repukes can't even get Condi Rice to back them up on this idiocy. That should tell you something right there.
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                                If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                                That is all.

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                                I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                                Originally posted by Isaac R.
                                Then it's really true??

                                The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                                OMFG...who in their right mind...???
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