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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49563

    The NRA is calling for armed police in EVERY school. Why not just have armed police on every corner? Hey! How about armed police in everyones' house?

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    • POJO_Risin
      Roth Army Caesar
      • Mar 2003
      • 40648

      Originally posted by FORD
      If you're calling for proper regulation of the criminal pharmaceutical industry, I'm all for it. But that's an entirely separate matter from how governments (local, state, and federal) have been slashed to shit and infrastructure -including law enforcement - have suffered as a result of corporations and the rich not carrying their share of the burden.
      It's more than just corporations and rich not paying their fair share...

      a lot more...

      Bad hires...and people, in general, that don't give a shit about anyone but themselves...
      "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59552

        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
        The NRA is calling for armed police in EVERY school. Why not just have armed police on every corner? Hey! How about armed police in everyones' house?
        Well... I guess it's a slight improvement over their usual rhetoric. They still think the answer is "more guns everywhere" but at least in this case, they would be in the hands of those properly trained to use them.

        Not that I agree with their solution, of course.
        Eat Us And Smile

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
          How about armed police in everyones' house?
          That's exactly how law abiding gun owners go about protecting their families...

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          • POJO_Risin
            Roth Army Caesar
            • Mar 2003
            • 40648

            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
            The NRA is calling for armed police in EVERY school. Why not just have armed police on every corner? Hey! How about armed police in everyones' house?
            I don't have a problem with that...armed police in every school...

            or outside the school...

            or merged with the school in some way...

            What I have a problem with is the fact that I just sat through the entire presser watching the NRA saying that it's all "them," and that the "us" will fix it with a ridiculous shield plan...

            There are multiple issues that need to be fixed, and the hope here is that people can fucking meet in the fucking middle...

            seriously...this is unfuckingbelievable...

            Land of fucking sheep...
            "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              Originally posted by FORD
              They still think the answer is "more guns everywhere" but at least in this case, they would be in the hands of those properly trained to use them.

              Not that I agree with their solution, of course.
              I do, 100%

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              • POJO_Risin
                Roth Army Caesar
                • Mar 2003
                • 40648

                "This is the beginning of a serious conversation. We won't be taking any questions right now..."

                lol...
                "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  Originally posted by POJO_Risin
                  I don't have a problem with that...armed police in every school...

                  or outside the school...

                  or merged with the school in some way...

                  This school has a plan...




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                  • sadaist
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 11625

                    Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                    What if? What if?

                    Okay, let's get rid of police all together then.... lol

                    It's ok armed men guard your money, but not your kids.

                    wow

                    Where did I say that?

                    And isn't having armed guards at schools a big "what if?"
                    “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                    • sadaist
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 11625

                      Originally posted by POJO_Risin
                      ...and you could absolutely do it in a manner that allows schools not to look like a penitentiary...

                      ..

                      Many of them already do.
                      “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49563

                        [QUOTE=POJO_Risin;1722426]I don't have a problem with that...armed police in every school...

                        or outside the school...

                        or merged with the school in some way...[/qu9ote]

                        Most places already have that. Some schools in NY even have a State Trooper assigned to them, but many have local police in the building periodically. These are mostly middle and high schools of course. But what they're advocating is prohibitively expensive and furthers the armed camp mentality...

                        What I have a problem with is the fact that I just sat through the entire presser watching the NRA saying that it's all "them," and that the "us" will fix it with a ridiculous shield plan...

                        There are multiple issues that need to be fixed, and the hope here is that people can fucking meet in the fucking middle...

                        seriously...this is unfuckingbelievable...

                        Land of fucking sheep...
                        I couldn't agree more. Furthermore, at the beginning of the conference, NRA PR-guy Baghdad Bob or whomever he is, stated the typical "assault rifle" semanticist bullshit and claimed "the media" called "the .223 the most powerful round ever" or something to that extent. I didn't hear that at all. In fact, someone on NPR referred to the weapon as a ".22" (.22LR is a very small bullet while the .223 [5.56mm NATO] round is a high velocity bullet designed to kill lots of people) and hinted that AR-15 derivative rifles aren't really all that powerful - which of course is complete bullshit since he fuckwell knows that the .223 round was developed for the AR-15 in order to maximize useable firepower of our soldiers as realistic combat ranges and to give them an equal to the Vietnamese carrying AK-47's...

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49563

                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          This school has a plan...




                          Allowing a bunch of potentially douchebag teachers to all carry their guns to school is fucking retarded, and WILL cause deaths and violence in schools and problems with lawsuits and the like.

                          I do think that a couple of teachers that have passed stringent checks and have military or law enforcement experience could be authorized to have access to a handgun locked in a safe in their rooms...

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                          • sadaist
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 11625

                            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                            The NRA is calling for armed police in EVERY school. Why not just have armed police on every corner? Hey! How about armed police in everyones' house?
                            It's ridiculous. I honestly don't want to be in a society where anywhere we go there is an armed officer.
                            “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                            • ELVIS
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 44120

                              Originally posted by POJO_Risin
                              seriously...this is unfuckingbelievable...

                              Land of fucking sheep...
                              Yeah, it's Hollywood, music and media causing these problems...

                              Nothing to do with a population where nearly 40% of the people (including teenagers) are medicated with prescription hallucinogens...

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                              • sadaist
                                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 11625

                                And why is everyone suddenly putting so much faith into police officers? These are the same guys that we see every week on a new video beating the fuck out of people & sometimes killing an innocent person. Yeah, the guys notorious for excessive force we want guarding our children.
                                “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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