The Gun Control Thread

[ELVIS]

Not really. I know many people whom SSRIs have helped. You pull a few random statistics out as proof of a link. It doesn't mean that it's the cause. More likely that some seriously fucked up individuals have gotten medical help before flipping out.

BTW, Alex Jones is right on certain issues and I agree with him from time to time, but he's mostly a nutcase.

That was not a few random statistics...

I'd kindly bask you to click on that link again and look over the entire page for a minute or two...

And I wasn't trying to be insulting...

[ELVIS]

I know, you just gotta love our most mentally unbalanced poster (the one who obviously NEEDS meds - badly) throwing rocks from his glass trailer claiming other people do.

Why don't you shut up for a second...

[ELVIS]

Holy fuckballs. Hey, you arrogant fuck, did you take EXTRA asshole pills this morning?

No, just seeing you on the boards brings my inner asshole to the forefront...

[Pink Spider]

That was not a few random statistics...

I'd kindly bask you to click on that link again and look over the entire page for a minute or two...

And I wasn't trying to be insulting...

So, you're saying that the drugs cause people to specifically target schools? As if no one shot up a place before anti-depressants were invented? It couldn't possibly be the media's unholy fixation on school shootings? There's a slight chance that the drugs could push someone over the edge, but statistically speaking it doesn't look like it. Millions are on the drugs. There would be no one left if the drugs were causing it.

Just like if guns were truly causing violence no one would be left either.

Knee jerk reactions are everywhere.

[jhale667]

No, just seeing you on the boards brings my inner asshole to the forefront...

That's your inner Klanbot. Hack.

[Nickdfresh]

After meeting with Vice President Joe Biden and Attorney General Eric Holder at the White House today, the National Rifle Association released a statement saying the White House has an "agenda to attack the Second Amendment."



JAN 10, 2013

"The National Rifle Association of America is made up of over 4 million moms and dads, daughters and sons, who are involved in the national conversation about how to prevent a tragedy like Newtown from ever happening again. We attended today's White House meeting to discuss how to keep our children safe and were prepared to have a meaningful conversation about school safety, mental health issues, the marketing of violence to our kids and the collapse of federal prosecutions of violent criminals," reads the NRA statement.

"We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment. While claiming that no policy proposals would be “prejudged,” this Task Force spent most of its time on proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners - honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans. It is unfortunate that this Administration continues to insist on pushing failed solutions to our nation's most pressing problems. We will not allow law-abiding gun owners to be blamed for the acts of criminals and madmen. Instead, we will now take our commitment and meaningful contributions to members of congress of both parties who are interested in having an honest conversation about what works - and what does not."

What we really need is a National Explosives Association, to protect our rights to mix fertilizer and diesel fuel in Ryder trucks!

[Nickdfresh]

Not in my view Nick. The national firearms act of 1934 as well as the Federal frearms act of 1938 were written in an attempt to take guns out of the hands of "criminals" and address the proliferation of "gangster weapons" at the time.

You mean by restricting assault weapons developed for military applications?

I believe that the end game today is to systematically disarm "everybody". I know they won't be able to do it. I may be wrong but that's what I believe now.

I believe that Martians are living in Oprah Winfrey's asshole when they were implanted there by Tom Cruise with the help of Xenu. But then again, I also have no evidence to support what I "believe"...

[Nickdfresh]

Years ago, my family were almost the victims of a home invasion. The only thing that stopped the thug from coming through the window was the sound of a shotgun being cocked. When people say that we need a full blanket gun ban, I have to roll my eyes, really fucking hard.

I really don't care about being branded a "redneck" or “insane” (I’m neither, thank you) for supporting a right to self defense. Dehumanization in the leftist/rightist bitchfest is nothing new. If you like to pretend that you’re helping to take away the rights of some racist, confederate redneck shooting their guns in the air rather than a defenseless woman or family...whatever gets you through.

If an assault weapons ban ever happens (good luck, by the way), its going to be interesting how many assault weapons will be the gun of choice by criminals, knowing that their victims can’t legally own one. As we all know criminals certainly stay out of “gun free zones” and follow laws.

'Sup Pinkie? long time!

I'd like to know who is saying we need a "full blanket gun ban?"

[Nickdfresh]

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I personally believe that the real problem is societal. We don't have a Gun problem as much as we have a fucked up people problem. It's our American sick culture.
We can take away all the black colored, scary looking guns from responsible citizens. That still doesn't address the underlying problem of what's making certain people think that they can resolve their personal problems with a firearm. Michael Moore himself said as much.
They'll probably turn to machete's and bayonets ? I dunno.

I think I'd like to take guns away from people with long histories of mental illness, schizophrenia, and extreme developmental disabilities. It's not really that hard. The majority of recent mass shooters have been males, typically under 30 if not under 25, and have had histories of run ins with mental health professionals and acquaintances that pretty much thought they were lunatics.

Yet, somehow they get guns. "Big scary" semi-automatic rifles with large capacity magazines...

[jhale667]

I think I'd like to take guns away from people with long histories of mental illness, schizophrenia, and extreme developmental disabilities. It's not really that hard. The majority of recent mass shooters have been males, typically under 30 if not under 25, and have had histories of run ins with mental health professionals and acquaintances that pretty much thought they were lunatics.

Yet, somehow they get guns. "Big scary" semi-automatic rifles with large capacity magazines...

Totally agree, and anyone who thinks that's at all unreasonable probably (except for age) fits that description to a T.

[Pink Spider]

'Sup Pinkie? long time!

I'd like to know who is saying we need a "full blanket gun ban?"

Thanks.

But, it's mostly implied when people demonize guns so easily, rather than looking at the individual who did it. Nevertheless, I've heard a few people call for outright bans. Maybe not on here, but I'm sure a few are in the 33 pages of this thread. I'm looking towards the Europeans.

[jhale667]

Who cares what the Europeans think? j/k :D Seriously, don't think any US poster is calling for an outright ban.

[Nickdfresh]

So, more penalties on criminals will be a deterrent for criminals ??

Um yes, actually. There are criminals that avoid certain things in order to avoid bigger jail time...

[Nickdfresh]

Dupe...

[Nickdfresh]

An AR15 will be pretty valuable on the black market and criminals, drug lords, gangs and thugs will buy as many as they can get their hands on, leaving the law-abiding citizen defenseless...

Um, most assault weapons like the AR15 or AK are legally purchased for criminals by straw purchasers, initially. It's pretty fucking shameful actually because the straw purchaser problem would be pretty easy to fix (for the most part) with a database tracking whose buying what and where it goes. I think there was a case in Virginia in the early 90's where some kid bought dozens--if not hundreds--of assault weapons and semi-auto submachine-guns for drug gangs with his driver's license.

Secondly, the only way they would be able to get them is through burglaries otherwise (which happened to my brother). That sort of shoots to shit many of the home defense arguments to an extent...