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  • Anonymous
    Banned
    • May 2004
    • 12749

    #46
    Originally posted by Kristy
    providing you take the greed out of it and limit insurance companies power to interfere.
    So we fix absolutely everything that is, has been & will be wrong with our society, just like that?

    Call me crazy, but I don't think it'll be quite that simple.

    Cheers!

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    • DONNIEP
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Mar 2004
      • 13373

      #47
      Originally posted by Imapus Sylicker
      So we fix absolutely everything that is, has been & will be wrong with our society, just like that?

      Call me crazy, but I don't think it'll be quite that simple.

      Cheers!
      Oh come on, Izzy. It really is that simple. All you have to do is take the profit motive out of it. That way people will continue to go to med school for 6 or 7 years, rack up some killer debt in student loans, and then spend the rest of their lives paying it off and scraping by. Let's just take the profit incentive out of everything and have the State provide everything, from cradle to grave.
      American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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      • Kristy
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 16751

        #48
        Originally posted by DONNIEP
        Nothing's free. Somebody's gonna have to pay and it ain't gonna be the majority of Americans sucking the Welfare Titty. YOU are gonna be paying for it and that dipshit next to you at the dispensary is gonna be laughing all the way to the Health Department while you're trying to make ends meet.
        Really? No shit? You see, it's going to be relics like you who will eventually bankrupt the system. As your generation grows older it's going to be the next one paying YOUR fucking bills. So fuck you very much. And fuck every last one of you very much for failing to implement a health care system that works. Same goes for your wars.

        Originally posted by DONNIEP
        And if you think for a second that a whole hell of a lot of doctors and dentists haven't stopped accepting new Medicaid patients then you are higher than a camel's cock. Why? Because the Medicaid reimbursement rates are S H I T. That's your FREE healthcare right there. And guess what happens when everybody is on Medicaid? The quality of the care will suck donkey dicks. Like I said, if none of you people believe me then head down to your local health department for a physical. And since Kristy despises hippies and white trash - she certainly ain't gonna like it.
        A fresh out-of-school med student will accept Medicaid coverage if they are in $200,000 debt to the fucking institution that educated their ass to begin with. No doctor comes out making $160,00 a year; most make less than $40,000 as a resident. Also where are they going to get the experience from? Go pop another zit on your F A T ass and come back and tell what doctors will and won't accept when it comes to patients. Don't worry, your six year old daughter will be paying for it when it becomes infected. Oh, and the quality of health already sucks dicks. And that's where you are a dumbass - it's not the healthcare - it's the god damn insurance companies sticking their greedy tentacles in both the public as wel as private sector of health coverage. You failed your own generation. Go fucking whine about it elsewhere.

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        • Kristy
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 16751

          #49
          Originally posted by DONNIEP
          Oh come on, Izzy. It really is that simple. All you have to do is take the profit motive out of it. That way people will continue to go to med school for 6 or 7 years, rack up some killer debt in student loans, and then spend the rest of their lives paying it off and scraping by. Let's just take the profit incentive out of everything and have the State provide everything, from cradle to grave.
          You are so god damn retarded.

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          • Anonymous
            Banned
            • May 2004
            • 12749

            #50
            Originally posted by DONNIEP
            Oh come on, Izzy. It really is that simple. All you have to do is take the profit motive out of it. That way people will continue to go to med school for 6 or 7 years, rack up some killer debt in student loans, and then spend the rest of their lives paying it off and scraping by. Let's just take the profit incentive out of everything and have the State provide everything, from cradle to grave.
            Eh... nah.

            I wanna keep on paying for goods & services, even if I have to struggle to make ends' meet. Sure, it's a shitty way of life, but at least I get a few tokens I can exchange for whatever I choose, instead of being told what I'm allowed to have & how much.

            And I really do not want to depend on the gubment for providing for my needs. That means I'm in their hands & they can do whatever they choose to me & I'll have no say in the matter. Sure, it's EASIER to just give in. But at that point, you might as well blow your brains out, 'cuz you're not living anymore. You're just... walking dead.

            Papa Jojo Orwell warned us about that sort of thing, I think.

            Cheers!

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            • Anonymous
              Banned
              • May 2004
              • 12749

              #51
              Originally posted by Kristy
              You are so god damn retarded.
              Special. Donnie's special.

              And we wouldn't have him any other way.

              Cheers!

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              • DONNIEP
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Mar 2004
                • 13373

                #52
                Originally posted by Kristy
                Oh, and the quality of health already sucks dicks. And that's where you are a dumbass - it's not the healthcare - it's the god damn insurance companies sticking their greedy tentacles in both the public as wel as private sector of health coverage. You failed your own generation. Go fucking whine about it elsewhere.
                Hey, I ain't the one whining - you are. You should be pretty damn happy, seeing as how you only pay 78 bucks a month for health insurance coverage. What kind of coverage do you get for that 78 buck a month policy? Low deductible? Everything done in the office covered at 100% after a $25 copay? ER services covered under a $100 copay? What's the percentage for in-network providers after the deductible? 80%? 90%? What's your total out-of-pocket per year, not including deductibles and copays?

                And please explain to me how a fresh out-of-school med student can pay back that $200,000 in debt if they're being reimbursed for their services at Medicaid levels? The only way the providers can continue to serve Medicaid patients is to also see insureds with private healthcare that reimburses at much higher levels. Surely you have a health department in town, right? And at least one private family practice office, right? You're telling me that you can get the exact same level of care in both of those facilities?
                American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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                • Kristy
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 16751

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Imapus Sylicker

                  I wanna keep on paying for goods & services, even if I have to struggle to make ends' meet.

                  Too fucking bad your Euro-trash country doesn't make any good or services to call its own. Go blow Smellvis if you're going to talk that way.

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                  • Kristy
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 16751

                    #54
                    Originally posted by DONNIEP
                    And please explain to me how a fresh out-of-school med student can pay back that $200,000 in debt if they're being reimbursed for their services at Medicaid levels? The only way the providers can continue to serve Medicaid patients is to also see insureds with private healthcare that reimburses at much higher levels. Surely you have a health department in town, right? And at least one private family practice office, right? You're telling me that you can get the exact same level of care in both of those facilities?
                    They're not! I never said that. But..they have to start somewhere, right? As for the rest of your diatribe, you seem to be hung up on how fucking clean a medical facility is for proper treatment. The level of care is about the same - considering ethics and state board licensing.

                    Plus, doctors here don't make shit unless they are top-of-the-line cardiologist or orthro surgeons - and that takes about 20 - 25 years the experience to get to a level of making over $240,000 has to start somewhere. Why can't you understand that!? Look at Saudi Arabia where health care is free and an average physicians salary for general practice is around $90,000 a year compared to $55,000 in the U.S.A - they've taken the profit motive out of the equation.

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                    • Anonymous
                      Banned
                      • May 2004
                      • 12749

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Kristy
                      Too fucking bad your Euro-trash country doesn't make any good or services to call its own. Go blow Smellvis if you're going to talk that way.
                      Now, now, don't be mean, baby - although that kinda turns me on. Not blowing Elvis, I'd really rather not. Not that there's anything wrong with him - there is - but he's just not my type. I don't even think he'd make a very good tranny.

                      But you see, that's how THEY win - the ones corrupting the whole shit from within and/or above.

                      The puppeteers larf their arses off at the unwashed masses killing each other for things they will never have any control over, because while the peasants are busy fighting each other, they'll never turn on the Masters who abuse them.

                      Believe me when I tell you this - you do NOT want to be indebted to something that can crush you effortlessly. You should be struggling to keep whatever control you can afford to have in your life, not give it away in hopes of an easier life. That's just a carrot on a stick.

                      It's not a trade. It's you giving & they promising, but never actually giving.

                      Cheers!

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                      • Kristy
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 16751

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Imapus Sylicker

                        Believe me when I tell you this - you do NOT want to be indebted to something that can crush you effortlessly. You should be struggling to keep whatever control you can afford to have in your life, not give it away in hopes of an easier life. That's just a carrot on a stick.
                        That's not a solution to the problem -epecially a generation growing older that is going to need sufficient health care. You're just spewing cynicism. Which helps no one.

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                        • Anonymous
                          Banned
                          • May 2004
                          • 12749

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          That's not a solution to the problem -epecially a generation growing older that is going to need sufficient health care. You're just spewing cynicism. Which helps no one.
                          I'm not trying to provide a solution to the problem. This is a cancer that can only be removed by killing the patient.

                          Yes, I'm being a cynic - but look at History. They've always been there: The cult leaders, the bankers, the royal families, the politicians corrupting laws to fit their own agenda... even if you wipe them all out completely, all you'll achieve is chaos until a new order establishes itself. I'll allow myself a bit of optimism & I'll say that things will run smoothly for a while after a new society has been established, but the human greed, stupidity & lust for power will slowly start the corruption all over again, rendering the whole process quite pointless.

                          And, of course, you can never wipe them out completely, so...

                          Look, all you can do is resist in your own small way, everyday. I don't mean it in a hippie, let's sing in the streets like we're in some fucking Walt Disney cartoon way, I mean it in a be as independent as you can without going full on survivalist nutter way. I do it. Do I fool myself thinking that someday all my resistance will pay off? Nah, I just do it because I refuse to give in.

                          If we all resist them all we can, then we MIGHT stave off the disease, but we sure as hell will never eliminate it. And never, ever tread on someone who is as bad, worse, or even slightly better off than you. You'll just be playing their game. You'll just be part of the disease.

                          TL;DR

                          Have a beer, have a larf, an orgasm & do it all again tomorrow.

                          Cheers!

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                          • vandeleur
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 9865

                            #58
                            I know am just a limey :D

                            But in my humble opinion the creation of the welfare state in the united kingdom in 1948 is as important a mile stone as the abolition of slavery in 1833 or women's suffrage , it is that fundamental and is the corner stone of social justice in our country .
                            It is something to be proud of despite it creaking at the seams sometimes.
                            Last edited by vandeleur; 06-16-2014, 06:52 PM.
                            fuck your fucking framing

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                            • vandeleur
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 9865

                              #59
                              oh to save someone a post .


                              Ya Commie bastid :D
                              fuck your fucking framing

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                              • Anonymous
                                Banned
                                • May 2004
                                • 12749

                                #60
                                Originally posted by vandeleur
                                I know am just a limey :D

                                But in my humble opinion the creation of the welfare state in the united kingdom in 1948 is as important a mile stone as the abolition of slavery in 1833 , it is that fundamental and is the corner stone of social justice in our country .
                                It is something to be proud of despite it creaking at the seams sometimes.
                                Propaganda. You must be a member of The Party. Away with you, puppet! Lest the thought police catches you socializing with the proles.

                                Cheers!

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