The War is Bullshit

[Rikk]

Originally posted by lucky wilbury
he posted a letter from someone asking them to investgate thats not proof of shit. thats like take a post from here and offering it evidence of something

Read everything at the link. I've even seen a photocopy of the original document. It's not bullshit.

[Rikk]

BTW Warham, I still think you're a good guy! We're just disagreeing here (politically).

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Keeyth
Here are ALL the records... ...he DID NOT volunteer for Vietnam as our delusional wilbury would have you believe... ..see for yourself: http://www.awolbush.com/

I don't see any arrest warrants...?

Dude, with all the people and process involved with AWOL, do you think they would all keep quiet? Where's the leak of how daddy covered it up?

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by lucky wilbury
he posted a letter from someone asking them to investgate thats not proof of shit. thats like take a post from here and offering it evidence of something

Ah, now YOU'RE ignoring the USA Today article... ...or is that 'internet theory' as well...

...One question for you before we go on: When you are proven wrong, are you able to admit it???

[Warham]

Originally posted by Rikk
I think fighting and then denouncing the war you've been fighting for is pretty gutsy and...considering what we've since learned about the war and the devestation it caused. More bombs were dropped on Vietnam and Cambodia than were dropped during the entire second World War. Millions of Vietnamese civilians died for no reason. You may think that denouncing such an action for so-called "red containment" when all that was being promoted was another dictatorship is despicable. Maybe you slept through the late 60's and early 70's. Me, I wasn't alive yet. But this isn't conspiracy shit. I learned all of these things in my two American History courses in University, plus various other history books. You couldn't even try to disagree with these facts. They are all TRUE. So, speaking out again Vietnam is NOT despicable. If Americans are killing millions of civilians, is it wrong to speak out against such an action because it's disrespectful to said troops? Give me a fucking break.

The problem is, most American soldiers were NOT killing civilians by removing body parts, torturing them to death, raping women, shooting kids in the back, etc. I know my father didn't do that when he was over there, and I'm sure he didn't know anybody who did it as well. Kerry says he did do it.

Who's to believe?

BTW, I like ya too, Rikk. :D

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Rikk
LOL. Now you've shot every bit of credibility you may have had. Saddam didn't use American weapons?? I'm done with you. It's like arguing with a brick wall that wants to see his own point and none other. Do you really think the Americans would go to war with Iraq if they were allied with the Russians (still the Soviets at that point).

Have a nice day.

Currently. Iraq had weapons from France, Germany, Russian, and China. Part of the secret deal they had for that oil and reason why those countries werne't so happy with the idea of goign after Saddam.

And don't tell me they didn't use them at our boys. My cousin's group got attacked and there was a huge Chinese flag on the metal. Not to mention the one they shot into Kuwait.

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
I don't see any arrest warrants...?

Dude, with all the people and process involved with AWOL, do you think they would all keep quiet? Where's the leak of how daddy covered it up?

Ally, pay attention. Daddy is VERY high up. The Bush name has been in power since they were financing Adolf Hitler, when granddaddy Prescott Bush was with Brown Brothers Harriman, Adolf's backers. As Rikk stated, do not be so naive as to think coverups of this and much greater magnitudes don't happen all the time.

[lucky wilbury]

Originally posted by Rikk
LOL. Now you've shot every bit of credibility you may have had. Saddam didn't use American weapons?? I'm done with you. It's like arguing with a brick wall that wants to see his own point and none other. Do you really think the Americans would go to war with Iraq if they were allied with the Russians (still the Soviets at that point).

Have a nice day.

your the one with no creditability. tell me who makes rpg's, ak-47 ak74,ak 105, migs etc etc etc. or better yet who made this iraqi tank?

[Warham]

Originally posted by Keeyth
Ally, pay attention. Daddy is VERY high up. The Bush name has been in power since they were financing Adolf Hitler, when granddaddy Prescott Bush was with Brown Brothers Harriman, Adolf's backers. As Rikk stated, do not be so naive as to think coverups of this and much greater magnitudes don't happen all the time.

How did financing Hitler pan out for the Bush family? I'd be interested in hearing about that.

[lucky wilbury]

Originally posted by Keeyth
Ah, now YOU'RE ignoring the USA Today article... ...or is that 'internet theory' as well...

...One question for you before we go on: When you are proven wrong, are you able to admit it???

you haven't proved anything. you don't get an honorable discharge if your awol.plain and simple. you wouldn't get the points. plain and simple. i know these matter are a little over you head but damn could you really be that stupid.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Keeyth
Ally, pay attention. Daddy is VERY high up. The Bush name has been in power since they were financing Adolf Hitler, when granddaddy Prescott Bush was with Brown Brothers Harriman, Adolf's backers. As Rikk stated, do not be so naive as to think coverups of this and much greater magnitudes don't happen all the time.

There'd still be someone.

Are you fully aware as to what goes into a declaration of AWOL?

[Rikk]

Originally posted by lucky wilbury
you haven't proved anything. you don't get an honorable discharge if your awol.plain and simple. you wouldn't get the points. plain and simple. i know these matter are a little over you head but damn could you really be that stupid.

Dude, you get proof. You now question the USA Today article after asking for a link...without even really reading it! And then people are stupid!??

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Warham
How did financing Hitler pan out for the Bush family? I'd be interested in hearing about that.

I've always wondered that, too, myself, but I just figured it helped tie in those Bush-Hitler pics

[Keeyth]

who's the stupid one who fucked up the thread with that big ass picture?
And you are SO naive. Rikk was right. You just don't get it. Have a nice day.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Warham
The problem is, most American soldiers were NOT killing civilians by removing body parts, torturing them to death, raping women, shooting kids in the back, etc. I know my father didn't do that when he was over there, and I'm sure he didn't know anybody who did it as well. Kerry says he did do it.

Who's to believe?

BTW, I like ya too, Rikk. :D

Absolutely not were the all Americans doing such acts. But the reasons for fighting weren't so honorable. The Americans were backing a brutal dictatorship. And they bombed the shit out of those people (and my family knows two vets who took part in village massacres...one of whom later killed himself).

The soldiers there aren't the people I'm criticizing. I'm sure your father and SO MANY OTHER Americans were great men, fighting for their country. But in retrospect, it's easy to see that that was not a noble war. And it just helps prove that just because you criticize a war doesn't mean you are denouncing the men doing the fighting.

Don't forget, BTW, we have a sheep to pick this week! I'm thinking DIAPER.