The War is Bullshit

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
There'd still be someone.

Are you fully aware as to what goes into a declaration of AWOL?

Did you READ the article, Ally? I'm not saying he was REPORTED as AWOL, just that he WAS AWOL.. ...there is a difference. You see, when Daddy Bush has your back you can go AWOL and not have it be reported officially. See the definition of a COVER-UP.

[Warham]

Why don't we just drop the shit about both candidate's war record?

Bush obviously had some interesting things going on in his record, and we've all heard about what Kerry did when he came back from Vietnam, hanging around with Hanoi Jane (not to mention that Kerry's pic is hanging in the Hanoi Communist's Hall of Fame).

Let's concentrate on the war that Kerry voted for before he voted against it, shall we?

[Rikk]

You know what's amazing?...I don't even care whatsoever that he went AWOL. If his being in office was better for the country, I'd still want him to win. But he's done more harm for this country than any President since Nixon. And when people question Kerry's integrity, I can either bring up the FACT that he went AWOL and had daddy cover it up or the FACT that they promised imminent threat and it's pretty clear they went to war on a lie. I saw right through the U.N. demonstration before the war even broke it up...it was such clear pseudo-science. You don't look for a conclusion before you even have your premises. You don't look for reasons to fit the answer you already want (war). It was such a joke. I'm surprised at how many Americans bought it. Even the media is embarressed now. I heard Wolf Blitzer of all people (talk about a puppet) a month ago (on the Daily Show) admit how embarressed the networks and CNN have been since the war started and all of their reports were disproven.

[lucky wilbury]

Originally posted by Rikk
Dude, you get proof. You now question the USA Today article after asking for a link...without even really reading it! And then people are stupid!??

you don't even have to read anything to know the truth. ALL documents show bush got and honorable discharge. end of story. you cna't get one if your awol. period end of story. if one was awol there would be paper saying the person was awol and there are NONE. and where are those paper that say bush is awol. thats right there are none because none exist. niether one of you two have clue one about the military or the ang thats clear. in order to get out of the ang you need a certain amount of points. it doesn't matter when you work to earn the point. you can work 4 days in a row to earn the points if your going to miss time or you can make up the points later if you miss days. now bush has ALL the required points for his ang days. those are the facts plain and simple. get over it.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by lucky wilbury
you don't even have to read anything to know the truth. ALL documents show bush got and honorable discharge. end of story. you cna't get one if your awol. period end of story. if one was awol there would be paper saying the person was awol and there are NONE. and where are those paper that say bush is awol. thats right there are none because none exist. niether one of you two have clue one about the military or the ang thats clear. in order to get out of the ang you need a certain amount of points. it doesn't matter when you work to earn the point. you can work 4 days in a row to earn the points if your going to miss time or you can make up the points later if you miss days. now bush has ALL the required points for his ang days. those are the facts plain and simple. get over it.

LOL. I guess you don't really want to be disproven. I guess the USA Today would make up such a story based on NO evidence. LOL. Have a nice day.

BTW, I'm cool with you, bro. I just disagree with you here.

[Ally_Kat]

I just read that USA thing twice. I'm sorry, but that's an editorial and proves only the writers' opinions. They don't document proof for a good handful of things that they claim.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Keeyth
Did you READ the article, Ally? I'm not saying he was REPORTED as AWOL, just that he WAS AWOL.. ...there is a difference. You see, when Daddy Bush has your back you can go AWOL and not have it be reported officially. See the definition of a COVER-UP.

And I'm telling you with the amount of people involved, someone would.....nevermind, you wouldn't understand unless you had military in your family.

[Warham]

It's impossible to have a cover up that large and not have somebody spill the beans, that's what Ally is trying to tell you guys. There's too many loose ends, and people in general have a hard time keeping their yaps shut if they have a secret. It's human nature.

[lucky wilbury]

Originally posted by Rikk
LOL. I guess you don't really want to be disproven. I guess the USA Today would make up such a story based on NO evidence. LOL. Have a nice day.

BTW, I'm cool with you, bro. I just disagree with you here.

it's not that i don't want ot be disproven ( i can't be on this) but if bush was awol he would have never fullfilled the required time and not have recieved the point to make him elligable to get an honorable discharge. for example if the reguirmnet says bush needed 100 and got 100 he did his time and got his honorable discharge (which he did) if bush needed a 100 and got 60 he would have still owed 40 and never have gotten and honorable discharge. in fact he would still be in the ang and be required to make up the days but thats not the case. i'm cool with everyone even ford i leave the political disagreements behind when i leave the front line

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
I just read that USA thing twice. I'm sorry, but that's an editorial and proves only the writers' opinions. They don't document proof for a good handful of things that they claim.

Ally, go to the awolbush website. the document showing he didn't show up for duty is there. Rikk told you he saw it and it's not bullshit. not to mention there are a number of other very revealing documents on that site. Open your mind to the possibility that you are backing a deserter and a coward. It will make it easier for you when it finally sinks in...

[Ally_Kat]

The point system Lucky just explained. Did you understand that?

[Warham]

The problem with the lib's strategy is this: They pounded Bush's war record four years ago and it did little to harm Bush's reputation. I don't know why they would pull this bag of tricks out again, seeing as it didn't work then.

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by Warham
It's impossible to have a cover up that large and not have somebody spill the beans, that's what Ally is trying to tell you guys. There's too many loose ends, and people in general have a hard time keeping their yaps shut if they have a secret. It's human nature.

I'm sorry, I'm just not that gullible as to believe that. Bean spillers can be killed... ...just look at whitewater, Vince Foster, etc.

and you don't think the Bush family could cover up an ANG record? Puh-LEASE!!

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by lucky wilbury
it's not that i don't want ot be disproven ( i can't be on this) i'm cool with everyone even ford i leave the political disagreements behind when i leave the front line

I'm cool with you too, but I think you have been disproven on this...

[Warham]

The public will eventually get sick of hearing about Vietnam, and then Kerry is going to have to run on his record in the Senate.

What did Kerry accomplish as a senator for 19 years? That's more important than what he did in 'Nam.