Who else could have replaced Dave in 1985?

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  • BumBahDeeDah
    Head Fluffer
    • Mar 2004
    • 292

    They could have searched and scouted and auditioned and took their time to find the right person, but they obviously thought the Fed Rocker was dropped into their laps by the Rock Gods. If the search had taken a year or two, I always thought Corey Glover from Living Color would have been a great fit, if they found him before LC really broke.

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    • the atomic punk
      Full On Cocktard
      • Mar 2011
      • 32

      I think their mistake was in bringing in an established guy. Personality conflicts were pretty much guaranteed. Living in LA, they had access to scores of good, flashy rock singers, but I think Eddie lacked confidence in his songwriting abilities and wanted someone to bear that burden. Obviously from a financial standpoint, the Sammy choice worked out for them. But I'll always wonder what great music they could have made if they hadn't brought in a guy so determined to make them more comercial sounding.

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      • Marcus
        Roadie
        • Oct 2004
        • 102

        So according to Sammy in his new book, he was one of three choices and he predicted in 1985 to his wife that VH would call him.
        He says the choice was between him, Ozzy, and Dio.

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        • Dave's Bitch
          ROCKSTAR

          • Apr 2005
          • 5293

          Ozzy would have been terrible in Van Halen.Dio may have done some cool stuff
          I really love you baby, I love what you've got
          Let's get together we can, Get hot

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          • ppg960
            Sniper
            • Dec 2005
            • 991

            Marc Torqin from the Bullet Boys.
            He would have been good.

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            • hambon4lif
              Crazy Ass Mofo
              • Jun 2004
              • 2810

              Originally posted by ppg960
              Marc Torqin from the Bullet Boys.
              He would have been good.
              Trying to 'replace' Dave, and someone trying to 'be' Dave are two completely different things.

              This thread is a trick question. Dave is irreplaceable.

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              • Heater
                Foot Soldier
                • Nov 2010
                • 508

                Dave did his share of trash talk as well, and actually continued with it until they let him back in. Bach was campaigning HARD to replace Sam--Skid Row opened for VH on the Balance tour and he probably saw the writing on the wall as far as Hagars tenure in the band was concerned. I would have loved to have seen an album with different guest vocalists, maybe who should sing with them full-time would've become apparent after that. CVH was heavier music, no doubt, but I don't see it as "dangerous". Hagar era had some heavy stuff that would've suited Dave IMO: A.F.U., Don't Tell Me What Love Can DO (with Roth appropriate lyrics), Poundcake, Finish What Ya Started (Dave went a little country a few years ago), Top of The World (The end of Jump is the start of this tune, not a stretch to think he could do this, and Jump is a bit poppier of the 2), maybe Mine All Mine. Other than Jump, Dave should avoid keyboard-heavy songs. Come to think of it , he should avoid Jump too.

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                • hambon4lif
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 2810

                  Originally posted by Heater
                  Hagar era had some heavy stuff that would've suited Dave IMO: A.F.U., Don't Tell Me What Love Can DO (with Roth appropriate lyrics), Poundcake, Finish What Ya Started (Dave went a little country a few years ago), Top of The World (The end of Jump is the start of this tune, not a stretch to think he could do this, and Jump is a bit poppier of the 2), maybe Mine All Mine.
                  This is EXACTLY why Van Halen needs to release an album, and quick!

                  People are so anxious to suck a fart out of Eddies ass that they're combing through Van Hagar material trying to find a winner.

                  I fucking refuse to do that.
                  It's the equivalent of dumpster-diving.

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                  • sadaist
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 11625

                    Originally posted by Heater
                    Other than Jump, Dave should avoid keyboard-heavy songs. Come to think of it , he should avoid Jump too.

                    Awww, fuck that.

                    That's one of my favorite parts of the live show where Dave does the spinny twirly kung-fu shit with the mic stand. It just fits absolutely perfect at the end of the guitar solo & during that keyboard solo.
                    “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                    • Unchainme
                      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 7746

                      I heard Joe Thunder was contacted...
                      Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team

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                      • hambon4lif
                        Crazy Ass Mofo
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 2810

                        Originally posted by Unchainme
                        I heard Joe Thunder was contacted...
                        Yeah, but poor Joe is still in the middle of a legal dispute with the Van Halens over unpaid royalties......

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                        • Heater
                          Foot Soldier
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 508

                          Hambon4lif, just my pointing out some tunes that I thought I could here Dave on, Ed did write some good music after 1984. You are fart sucking if you are trying to expedite an album from eddies dry well, and if you want to blindly state Ed wrote nothing of worth after Dave left, well good for you. you are being consumed by hatred for a man you will never know and longing for another man that you will never know to transport you 26 years into the past. And when Ed does record his farts for Dave to squeal over, you will no doubt allow as how it has erased everything since Panama. And sadaist, sorry, jump is bubble gum, cotton candy that was a clear indication of where the music was heading. Dave and his baton twirling are middle school JV impressive, yes, but on the last tour when he did the whole "tossing the ball up, hitting it and watching it fly while shading my eyes" during his baton major bit, the cringes he caused were numerous and again called attention to how uncomfortable he really felt up there.

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                          • Anonymous
                            Banned
                            • May 2004
                            • 12749

                            Well, I'm not about to read through all this shit, seeing as my opinion is bigger, better, faster, meaner & leaner than everyone else's,so...

                            Replacing can't be done. Ever. Never. But I'm sure there's a shitload of people who could've fronted Van Halen better than Spambulent did.

                            Hell, Spambulent himself could've fronted VH better than he did.

                            For a guy that has otherwise shown great commercial sense, his whole act with VH was horribly terrible. Trying to erase Dave was THE mistake. He probably dit it because that's what Edwina & Alexia wanted & he was willing to suck their balls to stay in Van Halen, but still...

                            Acknowledge the legend before you, try your best to deliver straight up rock n' roll lyrics & a little attitude, never ever pretend that you're the one that matters & you could've fronted VH better than the Spambulent one.

                            Easier said than done, I know, but... it could've been done.

                            Cheers! :bottle:

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                            • ian_hitmanhart
                              Roth Army Recruit
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 13

                              Gene Simmons was throwing his wig out of his pram back in 1985, because Paul didnt like him doing classic pieces of cinema like the film with Monica's ex out of Friends with the tashe and that movie where he dressed up in makeup and heels. He could have called the band he discovered and asked if they needed a frontman. They may have sucked musically, but at least we'd have gotten a Van Halen pin ball machine and toothbush out of it.

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                              • fifth element
                                Commando
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 1224

                                Originally posted by Marcus
                                Just curious here. Who else was available or suitable for Dave's spot in 1985 when Sammy joined Van Halen?
                                Discuss...
                                No one can "replace" Dave.....not really...

                                As you notice, Sammy is long gone and the rightful singer ~DLR~ is back where he belongs.
                                “Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending.” ~~Maria Robinson

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