Who else could have replaced Dave in 1985?

[ian_hitmanhart]

We might not have liked it, but Rotten would have been receptive to the idea - and it would have at least avoided the sub-REO Speedwagon ballads.

Lydon doesnt like the ristrictions of a guitar based band. He was writing songs like Religion and Fodderstompf on the bus during the last Sex Pistols tour. Pil allowed him a creative freedom though the kinds of music he loved to make. I dont think Eddie's and John's ego would have been able to last. If he thinks Dave liked to have things his own way, he wouldnt have lasted one phone call with John Lydon. Lydon played every instrument on his own solo album. He's a massive control freak and he admits it. And I believe he's discribed Van Halen's music as "hideous" in the past.

[FORD]

Yeah, but "Religion" would have made a great Sex Pistols song......

[Halen High]

I think it was their manager - Sammy's manager - who made Van Hagar what it was. When he died and Ray Daniels took over, that was the end. He seemed like the glue that kept it together.

Either EVH just woke up and saw that Sammy was taking them for a ride, or Ray Daniels taught them - that Hagar didn't really join Van Halen. He formed a new group with the other 3, and pissed on CVH. I mean, what songs did they play? Covers like Rockin' In The Free World, Rock And Roll, Won't Get Fooled Again...then toss in Sammy Hagar solo songs too. Are you kidding me? If you want to play cover songs, HOW ABOUT COVERING CLASSIC VAN HALEN!!! I'm sure that eventually pissed off the VH brothers. Imagine, from a huge catalogue of 6 awesome LPs, you are limited to playing only a handfull of songs 'cause this new singer doesn't want to.

But having said all of this, it's possible that if they didn't find Sammy when they did, and had his manager manage the band, they might have sat on their asses forever. Like they did durng the past decade. That's one reason why Dave jumped ship in 1985 - things were moving too slow even back then.

Good point about playing CVH songs rather than covering Led Zep etc. I could never understand why the brothers allowed Sammy to dictate to them about that.

[Halen High]

The Joey Ramone rumor made it into a book?

I want royalties, goddamn it!!

And yeah, Van Rotten would have been interesting. Definitely no cheese ballads there.

I had never heard that about Joey Ramone and VH - very interesting and cool.

[Halen High]

Sebastian bach coulda done some cool stuff with van halen

Absolutely!

[SunisinuS]

Sebastian bach coulda done some cool stuff with van halen
Absolutely!

I thought that way back in the day also....but Man....the guy does not seem to be to bright. Lyrics anyone? But yea, that was the only guy I thought could handle the vocals back then.

[DLR Bridge]

Cheap Trick was circling the bowl around '85. To me, Robin Zander is a power house and a cool guy. Zand Halen! Anyone?

[ashstralia]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Duff

there's this aussie bloke called jeff duff. his work with 'alien sex gods' was awesome. van duff... duff halen... can't get enuff of that stuff. duffman

[hambon4lif]

Cheap Trick was circling the bowl around '85. To me, Robin Zander is a power house and a cool guy. Zand Halen! Anyone?

Robin Zander and the rest of Cheap Trick are loyal to Cheap Trick, and loyal to the fans of Cheap Trick.

Loyalty is one thing Van Halen don't know a fucking thing about.