It's the end of times

[Anonymous]

Actually...that's my ultimate dream: Wolfie singing and three other stupid fuck young video game player friends of his rounding out the band and using the Van Halen name. I want Ed to officially hand the name down to Wolfie. I want it to be done in a HUGE press conference and I want to sit here and see how many Wolfie fans stand by it.

And to prove that VH is completely his, Wolfie will finish with a heartfelt rendition of "How Many Say I".

By the way, did I ever thank you for posting that crap so many fucking times that I had to listen to it at least once? No? Well, just give me a moment while I e-mail you some anthrax. That'll show you how much I appreciate your gift.

Be sure to inhale deeply when you click on the message.

[DONNIEP]

And to prove that VH is completely his, Wolfie will finish with a heartfelt rendition of "How Many Say I".

By the way, did I ever thank you for posting that crap so many fucking times that I had to listen to it at least once? No? Well, just give me a moment while I e-mail you some anthrax. That'll show you how much I appreciate your gift.

Be sure to inhale deeply when you click on the message.

That's the geenyus geetar twanger's favorite song! He loved it so much he just HAD to sing it!! Gary agreed!

Fuck Ed and fuck his stupid fat twat of a son. If that fat fuck was my kid I would ridicule him continuously for being a fat pile of shit.

Of course, Wolfie is a super nice and immensely talented young man. His weight is perfect and he should continue to eat himself slap to death, I mean express who he is. Which is the hungriest motherfucker any of us has ever known.

*Just kidding Wolfie. Text me xxxooo

[Never was]

Since the band will be a black hole for awhile the entire birthday wishes amount to trolling the fanbase to keep them talking since nothing musically to discuss. Helps Hagar get in the public view since he can't without mentioning VH and the VH camp trolls fans to fill dead air.

[Terry]

Wow. That's harsh, Terry. Unfortunately, it's also true.

So what now? What do we do? Where do we go from here?

Well, I don't really know if there IS anywhere left TO go from here, least not for me and future Van Halen activities.

I mean, I wasn't trying to be harsh. I saw Roth multiple times during the lean years when he was trying to rebuild his solo career post-1996. Saw him in 1999, 2002, 2005 and 2006. I dug The 1998 DLR Band cd. I dug the Bar-B-Que. His 2003 Diamond Dave cd pretty much stunk up the joint save for a few tracks. The Van Strumming stuff he did was weak...

He put out a solid cd in 1998, then opens for Bad Company and plays one track off it. He's basically been doing the Classic Van Halen Experience live featuring David Lee Roth since 1999, both in and out of Van Halen.

And that's fine. I get it. It's what the majority of people still willing to pay tickets to see Roth live want to hear. For sure, plenty on this site wouldn't mind him breaking out more obscure solo stuff from ALAE or YFLM, but there probably aren't enough diehard Roth fans left to fill up enough venues to base a tour around UNLESS he is playing a setlist chock full of CVH tunes.

And I get THAT, too. But he's got to be able to sing the tunes and sound at least halfway decent doing it. If he can't meet that minimum threshold, it's easy for me to come to the conclusion that it was a good, long run Roth had but it's basically over and just give it a pass. I mean, what's the point of Van Halen unearthing all those deep CVH cuts live if Roth can't sing 'em well?

It'd be neat if Van Halen put out a studio release of strong new material, then perhaps hit the road (preferably with Anthony) for one last blast with Dave and call it a day. And sometime soon, because if they take another three year hiatus...shit...I (never mind Dave or Eddie) might well be dead by that point. Or, much like what they've done since 2012 and ADKOT, indifferent.

Hey, if people still want to see this incarnation of Van Halen and still get satisfaction from what they're doing, more power to 'em. Seriously. For myself, my own reaction to the Tokyo Dome cd, the Kimmell appearance and the 2015 tour was one of apathy. And apathy isn't a response Van Halen, even at their most misguided, has elicited from me.

[Von Halen]

It's the end of times

Well, I don't really know if there IS anywhere left TO go from here, least not for me and future Van Halen activities.

I mean, I wasn't trying to be harsh. I saw Roth multiple times during the lean years when he was trying to rebuild his solo career post-1996. Saw him in 1999, 2002, 2005 and 2006. I dug The 1998 DLR Band cd. I dug the Bar-B-Que. His 2003 Diamond Dave cd pretty much stunk up the joint save for a few tracks. The Van Strumming stuff he did was weak...

He put out a solid cd in 1998, then opens for Bad Company and plays one track off it. He's basically been doing the Classic Van Halen Experience live featuring David Lee Roth since 1999, both in and out of Van Halen.

And that's fine. I get it. It's what the majority of people still willing to pay tickets to see Roth live want to hear. For sure, plenty on this site wouldn't mind him breaking out more obscure solo stuff from ALAE or YFLM, but there probably aren't enough diehard Roth fans left to fill up enough venues to base a tour around UNLESS he is playing a setlist chock full of CVH tunes.

And I get THAT, too. But he's got to be able to sing the tunes and sound at least halfway decent doing it. If he can't meet that minimum threshold, it's easy for me to come to the conclusion that it was a good, long run Roth had but it's basically over and just give it a pass. I mean, what's the point of Van Halen unearthing all those deep CVH cuts live if Roth can't sing 'em well?

It'd be neat if Van Halen put out a studio release of strong new material, then perhaps hit the road (preferably with Anthony) for one last blast with Dave and call it a day. And sometime soon, because if they take another three year hiatus...shit...I (never mind Dave or Eddie) might well be dead by that point. Or, much like what they've done since 2012 and ADKOT, indifferent.

Hey, if people still want to see this incarnation of Van Halen and still get satisfaction from what they're doing, more power to 'em. Seriously. For myself, my own reaction to the Tokyo Dome cd, the Kimmell appearance and the 2015 tour was one of apathy. And apathy isn't a response Van Halen, even at their most misguided, has elicited from me.

Hey, watch what you say about Roth's performance of those songs on that live album, and the 2015 tour. There are people here that maintain those versions were "definitive" Van Halen, and they'll lynch you for saying otherwise!

I've seen what used to be some pretty big bands, in some pretty small venues in recent years. It would be nice if Dave actually loved the music and the fans, enough to put together a versatile band, and go out and play a wider variety of his catalogue. I'm afraid his Diamond Dave rock star persona has too big of an ego for that though. I doubt Dave would be able to fit his big fat head into a 1000 or less, capacity venue.

[DONNIEP]

Hey, watch what you say about Roth's performance of those songs on that live album, and the 2015 tour. There are people here that maintain those versions were "definitive" Van Halen, and they'll lynch you for saying otherwise!

I've seen what used to be some pretty big bands, in some pretty small venues in recent years. It would be nice if Dave actually loved the music and the fans, enough to put together a versatile band, and go out and play a wider variety of his catalogue. I'm afraid his Diamond Dave rock star persona has too big of an ego for that though. I doubt Dave would be able to fit his big fat head into a 1000 or less, capacity venue.

Now, Von, I think a lot of people here listened to a different live album than some of us did. Apparently, on the copies they purchased, Dave was absolutely mind blowing. Maybe it's because I bought the digital copy, maybe the vocals on it were somehow digitally suckified or something. Or maybe the truth is when you cut out the crowd noise - Dave either struggles a lot or, well only an idiot would think there's an "or" when we're talking about a guy who has an ego the size of Texas.

I've seen Dave on every single solo tour he's done that came near here. And one of my two favorites was Rocky's in Charlotte, which was a really shitty little club. The geetar player sucked mightily, and there were actually a few hecklers in the crowd. But Dave put on a great show. I'd pay to see him in the smaller venues again. The guy could put together an awesome band in two weeks. Easy. But, like Von said, I don't think he cares enough about the fans or even his own music and legacy to do it. Or maybe he simply realizes he just cannot do it anymore. Rip Von Winkel said the EEAS songs would kill the guy. And unless he's really put the effort into his vocals then I agree.

And that's the weird thing about Roth. The guy just really doesn't seem to give a shit about how he sounds anymore. I'll give him credit for trying to put on some sort of visual show, but he's got to sing the songs halfway decently or there's just no point.

[Edwards3rdWife]

Beavis and Butthead were funny but that song made me nauseous

[Terry]

Hey, watch what you say about Roth's performance of those songs on that live album, and the 2015 tour. There are people here that maintain those versions were "definitive" Van Halen, and they'll lynch you for saying otherwise!

I've seen what used to be some pretty big bands, in some pretty small venues in recent years. It would be nice if Dave actually loved the music and the fans, enough to put together a versatile band, and go out and play a wider variety of his catalogue. I'm afraid his Diamond Dave rock star persona has too big of an ego for that though. I doubt Dave would be able to fit his big fat head into a 1000 or less, capacity venue.

Meh.

The Van Halens, from 2012 onward, are a well-rehearsed instrumental unit. They service the songs well enough to get the job done. Ed played quite well at the show I saw in 2012. However, anyone claiming that as being "definitive"...well, no. Not for me. Maybe within a very limited scope coupled with the caveat "all things considered":

Thinking back to Ed's condition in 2004-2006 and how he performed on the latter dates of the 2007/2008 tour, all things considered Ed has been playing well for the last few years.

Thinking back to the end of the 2004 tour, when it looked like Van Halen would be unable to even perform at all going forward in a semi-decent manner, all things considered the Van Halens are playing well today. Alex has been consistently good on all the Van Halen tours (even the 2004 one).

With Dave, he's starting (starting, mind you) to approach where comedian Paul Mooney is today, that of being too old to get the job done well yet one gets the sense that Roth keeps going with Van Halen because what else is there for him to do BUT go back to playing 1000 seaters? And I'd be willing to wager if Roth leaves Van Halen again, he'll try to play solo dates at smaller venues even if he has been smart financially and banked his touring revenue from the last 8 years...because the alternative to that is retiring, which some equate with being on the threshold of dying.

[VetteLS5]

The fact that "5150 time" and "best of both worlds" were hashtagged is a horrible omen. Either that's one seriously obsessed former girlfriend style tweet to Ed, or this shit's in the works.

[Jetstream]

The fact that "5150 time" and "best of both worlds" were hashtagged is a horrible omen. Either that's one seriously obsessed former girlfriend style tweet to Ed, or this shit's in the works.

I will take 'seriously obsessed girlfriend' for the all expense trip to the Congo and the lifetime supply of chewing gum Bob

[Grit]

Don't forget what Spammy said in October of 2015

When asked if he would ever be willing to speak to Eddie again, Hagar's response was positive, hoping to one day mend that relationship. "That would be really sad if any one of us - I'll put myself in the same category - took this to our graves. That is not where you take things. I would rather go to my grave with no enemies left. I just don't think that would feel right. But who knows. Whatever. It's not my decision because I was the one they pushed out and tried to f**k over. To me, it's up to them to come back and say they're sorry."

"I'm not sorry for anything. I didn't do anything. Matter of fact, I did everything for that band. It was 100 percent my heart and soul and the best I had to give. All I did was make Number One albums and a lot of money. That's all I ever did for the band. Anything that's been done has all been in anger towards myself and now Mikey, too. To me, they need to come and say, 'We're sorry.' And then our job would be to say, 'Great, you're forgiven.' Boom. Not for a reunion or anything like that. That's over, to me. That's completely f**king over. I wouldn't want to be in a band like that right now."

"I'd feel like a hypocrite for joining that band. How about that? There's a good quote for you. If I joined Van Halen right now, I'd feel like the biggest hypocrite in the world. And I'm not a hypocrite."

-Spammy, October 2015. Not that you can put much in that.

[Jetstream]

When asked if he would ever be willing to speak to Eddie again, Hagar's response was positive, hoping to one day mend that relationship. "That would be really sad if any one of us - I'll put myself in the same category - took this to our graves. That is not where you take things. I would rather go to my grave with no enemies left. I just don't think that would feel right. But who knows. Whatever. It's not my decision because I was the one they pushed out and tried to f**k over. To me, it's up to them to come back and say they're sorry."

"I'm not sorry for anything. I didn't do anything. Matter of fact, I did everything for that band. It was 100 percent my heart and soul and the best I had to give. All I did was make Number One albums and a lot of money. That's all I ever did for the band. Anything that's been done has all been in anger towards myself and now Mikey, too. To me, they need to come and say, 'We're sorry.' And then our job would be to say, 'Great, you're forgiven.' Boom. Not for a reunion or anything like that. That's over, to me. That's completely f**king over. I wouldn't want to be in a band like that right now."

"I'd feel like a hypocrite for joining that band. How about that? There's a good quote for you. If I joined Van Halen right now, I'd feel like the biggest hypocrite in the world. And I'm not a hypocrite."

-Spammy, October 2015. Not that you can put much in that.

Everything Sammy said in the negative about him rejoining was ended with he word 'now', meaning for the moment so he could have a way out if they ever offered him the job... I do not see Edward offering the job but this is no longer 'now' in the realm of Sammy and he would rejoin so quick if asked now lol

[DavidLeeNatra]

Everything Sammy said in the negative about him rejoining was ended with he word 'now', meaning for the moment so he could have a way out if they ever offered him the job... I do not see Edward offering the job but this is no longer 'now' in the realm of Sammy and he would rejoin so quick if asked now lol

Like my favorite AVH quote: "the Beatles will never get back together and David Lee Roth will never again sing with Van Halen"

That's the trouble with never...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

That's the trouble with never...

I see what you did there...

Circumstances change in life, especially when one of the band members is a soon-to-be 25 year old who's really done nothing on his own yet, albeit he's been in a hugely successful band and is a multi-millionaire....

Wolf is the key, just as it was in 2006/07....

If Wolf has a chat with Pops and wants to sprout out on his own, which is certainly not out of the realm of possibility AT ALL, then we're talking about a whole new ballgame....

Because that will inevitably reopen the door for not only Bette (assuming DLR doesn't get a renewed contract), but now Mike as well....

Although as I've speculated before, if it happens IMO it'll MUST be a package deal, it's gotta be Bette/Mike or no deal......

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Uh-huh......

http://www.dailybulletin.com/arts-and-entertainment/20160124/sammy-hagar-hits-the-road-to-jam-with-rock-n-roll-pals

One subject Hagar is not comfortable talking about is Van Halen. When asked what he would do if the group called him to come back, he said he wasn’t sure.

“My favorite thing to say without biting my own tongue is no comment,” Hagar said. “Every time I turned around, it was a no-win situation. If I say what I feel ... I would always get 50 percent of the Van Halen fans saying, ‘Right on, you rule.’ Then the haters would dog me like, ‘You’re always dogging Van Halen.’ I’m going to shut up. They get their wish. We’ll see what happens when it happens — if it happens."