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  • Va Beach VH Fan
    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
    • Dec 2003
    • 17913

    #16
    As I mentioned somewhere else, I honestly don't know what should be considered a "sincere apology" nowadays....

    What's the criteria ?? Does he have to cry ?? Does he have to enumerate the number of ho's he banged, including who performed fellatio the best ??

    Don't get me wrong, I think he should be ashamed for what he did, especially with a beautiful Swedish bride and two great kids....

    But what's he gotta do ?? All of the "experts" always say to get up there, admit your wrongdoings, try to repair your marriage and your family, and get on with your life....

    Seems to me he did his best to do it.... Didn't he ???
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    • standin
      Veteran
      • Apr 2009
      • 2274

      #17
      Originally posted by LoungeMachine
      Horseshit.

      To whom, exactly?

      Any parent who points to a FUCKING PRO GOLFER and tells junior to admire and emulate him is a fucking pathetic moron.



      Role model.

      Spare me.
      I for one considered him to be worth emulating.
      His win that first year at the Augusta National was a big win.

      He has a lot of fans beyond golf.
      Golf just happened to be his vehicle.

      He happened to be a prodigy, but he also happened to have a trail to blaze.





      As for the Why bother asspect.....
      My mom used to tell me to be extra nice to the freshmen because a few words or gestures from a senior can really mean something.

      The same holds true for Tiger, a few words and gestures from Tiger can really mean something.
      Last edited by standin; 02-21-2010, 09:46 PM.
      To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
      MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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      • kwame k
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Feb 2008
        • 11302

        #18
        Originally posted by standin
        Funny, funny, K.
        Had Tiger wanted a swinger's life there was more than one woman that would have married him. Fact is, he didn't want a swinger's life and all the drama that goes with it or he would not have married who he did. Time for him to walk the walk and talk the talk.

        And beat down that stereotypical hogwash, like ole Sparky the beard man.
        That was whimsical just for you, K.
        How do you know what Tiger wanted or didn't want?

        Stereotypical hogwash?

        WTF are you talking about......it's prescription drugs you're on, isn't it.
        Originally posted by vandeleur
        E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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        • standin
          Veteran
          • Apr 2009
          • 2274

          #19
          Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
          As I mentioned somewhere else, I honestly don't know what should be considered a "sincere apology" nowadays....

          What's the criteria ?? Does he have to cry ?? Does he have to enumerate the number of ho's he banged, including who performed fellatio the best ??

          Don't get me wrong, I think he should be ashamed for what he did, especially with a beautiful Swedish bride and two great kids....

          But what's he gotta do ?? All of the "experts" always say to get up there, admit your wrongdoings, try to repair your marriage and your family, and get on with your life....

          Seems to me he did his best to do it.... Didn't he ???
          I think he did pretty darn good. It was a tough duty.
          To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
          MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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          • standin
            Veteran
            • Apr 2009
            • 2274

            #20
            Originally posted by kwame k
            How do you know what Tiger wanted or didn't want?

            Stereotypical hogwash?

            WTF are you talking about......it's prescription drugs you're on, isn't it.
            Just for you, stick-man. Just for you. :D
            To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
            MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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            • kwame k
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Feb 2008
              • 11302

              #21
              Wow, just plain wow
              Originally posted by vandeleur
              E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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              • standin
                Veteran
                • Apr 2009
                • 2274

                #22
                Have I done an extensive background on Tiger and his family?
                No, I have not. However, generally, he, his father, and mother on the courses showed real family. Hell, even his dad never forgot a war friend. Those are long-term bonds type of people.

                Did you see his Mother's body language during the speech? She was really pissed at him.
                Last edited by standin; 02-21-2010, 09:57 PM.
                To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
                MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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                • kwame k
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 11302

                  #23
                  Never even watched his apology.....that's between him and his wife.

                  His fucking around or "sex addiction" has absolutely no bearing on my life, for good or ill.
                  Originally posted by vandeleur
                  E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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                  • chefcraig
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 12172

                    #24
                    I wish Eddie Van Halen had apologized for VHIII sometime in 1999. I truly believe his state of mind (not to mention the state of the band) over the last decade or so would have been a far more healthy thing if he had done so.









                    “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                    ― Stephen Hawking

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                    • kwame k
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 11302

                      #25
                      Originally posted by chefcraig
                      I wish Eddie Van Halen had apologized for VHIII sometime in 1999. I truly believe his state of mind (not to mention the state of the band) over the last decade or so would have been a far more healthy thing if he had done so.

                      First step in recovery is admitting you have a problem.....after reading his last interview, he seems to blame the fans.

                      Ed's Blaze'in down a river called De-Nile
                      Originally posted by vandeleur
                      E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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                      • LoungeMachine
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 32576

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                        But what's he gotta do ?? All of the "experts" always say to get up there, admit your wrongdoings, try to repair your marriage and your family, and get on with your life....

                        Seems to me he did his best to do it.... Didn't he ???
                        @ "experts"

                        The ONLY person he owes and apology to, is his WIFE.

                        THAT he SHOULD do in person......

                        Why the fuck does anyone in the world think he owes anyone anything?

                        And why the fuck does anyone care

                        A millionaire who goes on strolls in front of TV cameras for a living cheated on his wife. end. of. story.



                        And to standin: AGAIN, JUST MORE OF YOUR PSYCO-BABBLE HORSESHIT

                        [thome makes more sense than you on this matter]
                        Originally posted by Kristy
                        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                        Originally posted by cadaverdog
                        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                        • Terry
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 12123

                          #27
                          Seems a lot of people are mad at Woods because his private life didn't mirror the public image he projected via his many commercial sponsorships. Said people might find it useful to wake the fuck up and realize the Easter Bunny doesn't exist and neither does the assumed correaltion between many celebrities and the way they present themselves to the public when they have something to sell. It's like people were honestly shocked to find out the guy was human just because he made a lot of money at golf and had a squeaky-clean image. Nowadays, Tiger woods doesn't look so holy, and John Daley doesn't seem so bad. Just as well, because we're all sinners and saints.

                          Woods has a "sex addiction"? Fuck me, there are far worse "addictions" to have in my book. Fair enough to surmise that from the perspective of his wife and their family members Woods obviously has a "problem", although how that translates into being a problem for anyone else is unclear to me. Far as parents publicly lamenting Woods failing to live up to his "responsibilities" as a "role model", well, parents need look no further than themselves if they're searching for people their children can look up to. Outside of his sponsors, Woods doesn't owe anybody (not even his fans) a goddamn thing beyond playing golf well. Last I checked, fucking around on your wife wasn't a criminal offense. Uncool? I'll agree with that. In breach of or voiding a prenup? Maybe. Warranting an amount of media coverage that eclipsed the serious issues of the day? If one is an avid reader of People magazine and gets a vicarious thrill watching celebs getting torn down by the mindless mass media, then I suppose yes.

                          Realistically, Woods had to say something, if only for the sake of retaining his sponsorships and trying to stem the flow of blood the press jackals were braying for. From a pr standpoint, my problem with what he did in terms of his press conference was twofold:

                          1) Why bother speaking to a room of packed reporters when there was to be no
                          Q & A? By simply reading a statement, he leaves too much unanswered. If
                          you're gonna feed the beast, you might as well stand up there as long as it
                          takes and answer questions for an almost absurd length of time...several
                          hours, if need be. Yeah, it wouldn't be pleasant, but it would, in effect, go
                          a lot further toward killing the story; let the questions fly, answer them all
                          and let the press pack exhaust themselves. That eventually takes the fuel
                          out of the situation. George Will said Woods basically did what all these public
                          figures now do when delivering these faux-apologies: accept an amount of
                          blame at the top of the statement, talk about their religion then end up
                          criticizing the press. Woods should have stood there as long as it took for
                          the vultures to pick his carcass clean. Can't clamor for more blood when all
                          that's left is the bones.

                          2) Woods could have accomplished what he did last week by simply recording
                          a monologue and releasing the video to either ESPN or his own web site
                          several months back. It wouldn't have required him to stand up in front
                          of a bunch of reporters and photographers watching him trundle through
                          a speech while clearly appearing ill-at-ease as the strobe effect of
                          flashbulbs illuminated his discomfort. He could have done as many takes in
                          a private taping as he needed in order to look comfortable (even if he
                          wasn't), and headed (to a degree) off months of media hounding if this
                          had been done much sooner.

                          I assume Woods must have some people in his employ assigned to handle media-relations. Were I him, I'd fire their asses for not having the balls to tell him his silence was just fueling the stories - whomever was advising him on how to handle the public dimensions of this situation, from what I can see they didn't serve him well.
                          Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                          • standin
                            Veteran
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 2274

                            #28
                            Golf is a game of integrity.

                            Tiger brought life back into golf.

                            There would not be a platform for Daly, if it wasn't for Tiger.

                            Daly reminds me of Hagar; pandering off another's platform.

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                            As for sports coverage, I guess you can say all sports coverage is silly when compared to world dilemmas.

                            Did that snowboarder really needed to be sent home just because he and others sucked on his medal?
                            Last edited by standin; 02-21-2010, 11:05 PM.
                            To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
                            MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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                            • LoungeMachine
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 32576

                              #29
                              Originally posted by standin
                              Golf is a game of integrity.

                              >


                              If that were true they'd have to carry their own damn clubs.......



                              Welp, if what you say is true, then Tiger just proved you wrong.....



                              Integrity.






                              Just how much INTEGRITY does one need to muster to hit a ball into a hole?

                              Philanthropy takes integrity....

                              Being a teacher, firefighter, police officer, or soldier takes integrity.....



                              No wonder you and Thermos hit off so well before your big breakup
                              Originally posted by Kristy
                              Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                              Originally posted by cadaverdog
                              I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                              • kwame k
                                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 11302

                                #30
                                No, golf is a game where you hit a ball in a hole....... integrity is a trait you either have/develop or don't. Playing a game will not give it to you....you either have it or don't.
                                Originally posted by vandeleur
                                E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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