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  • TFM_Dale
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Jan 2009
    • 7943

    Originally posted by gbranton
    I want to clarify. when I say pay the players I am talking about a meager fixed amount, such as what Steve Spurrier has suggested. Enough to buy food, a few cds, decent clothes and take his girl to a movie on the weekend, like $250/week or something along those lines. At Florida I remember talking to John L. Williams, who went to high school with my roommate. He came from a poor family and had to bum rides to go back home and see his folks 45 miles away in the offseason, I even gave him a ride somewhere once, I can't recall where off the top of my head. The point is we were in awe of him thinking he had it made, he was generating vast sums of money for the university and yet I had a far higher standard of living than he did.
    If they could somehow make sure all athletes received the same amount and some schools didn't pay more then others I wouldn't have a problem with it. But only like you are saying, not enough to make them rich, they are working towards their future while in college just like anyone else. Just seems to hard to police and keep fair.

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    • Va Beach VH Fan
      ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
      • Dec 2003
      • 17913

      Originally posted by gbranton
      I want to clarify. when I say pay the players I am talking about a meager fixed amount, such as what Steve Spurrier has suggested. Enough to buy food, a few cds, decent clothes and take his girl to a movie on the weekend, like $250/week or something along those lines.
      So not only provide them with a free education (you know, the reason he's there) worth at a minimum $100,000-$150,000, but pay them $250 a week as well? While I pay $20K a year to send my kid to college?

      No sir.....
      Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

      "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

      "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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      • TFM_Dale
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Jan 2009
        • 7943

        Originally posted by ODShowtime
        Hey I want to be clear with you man. It's nothing personal. I don't really wish that to YOUR family. Right now I wish it to everyone's family. I wish the entire world just fucking ended right now. However angry I was last week is nothing compared to what I feel right now.

        Really I just wish suffering on all the hateful and ignorant people in the world; people like you. Yes, I respond to hate with hate. Fuck you.
        Fair enough, fuck you to then.

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        • TFM_Dale
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Jan 2009
          • 7943

          Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
          So not only provide them with a free education (you know, the reason he's there) worth at a minimum $100,000-$150,000, but pay them $250 a week as well? While I pay $20K a year to send my kid to college?

          No sir.....
          and then you have this, makes it all to hard to pay players anything.

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          • TJMKID
            Veteran
            • Mar 2004
            • 1533

            Originally posted by Fairwrning
            I still think it should be an either/or situation. A separate college football league is fine with me...but you dont get a free ride through school if you are getting paid...And the pay cap should not be ridiculous..You dont become a millionaire playing college sports....at best you get enough to live on your own all year..perhaps if you stay and graduate a large grant is given and you get out cheaply.

            I think the paid athlete shouldn't even be allowed to be a college student while he plays for the college team --- his full time job is playing football for a max. of 4 years.

            After he finishes --- he can go to college as a full-time student (if he doesn't get drafted into any pro leagues).

            I agree about the cap, too --- make the salaries comparable to the baseball minor leagues --- you ain't there to become rich --- just hone your talents and get noticed by the pro scouts.

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            • gbranton
              Veteran
              • Aug 2005
              • 1847

              Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
              So not only provide them with a free education (you know, the reason he's there) worth at a minimum $100,000-$150,000, but pay them $250 a week as well? While I pay $20K a year to send my kid to college?

              No sir.....
              How much are tickets to see your kid?
              "Don't want 'em to get you goat, don't show 'em where it's hid." - David Lee Roth

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              • TJMKID
                Veteran
                • Mar 2004
                • 1533

                Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                So not only provide them with a free education (you know, the reason he's there) worth at a minimum $100,000-$150,000, but pay them $250 a week as well? While I pay $20K a year to send my kid to college?

                I think the whole idea of paying college athletes a small stipend is a dead end street. No matter how much you give them --- it will never be enough. Do you think egomaniacs like Cam Newton and Reggie Bush are going to be fine thinking they're only worth $250/week? The abuse of the system will continue as always.

                Separate the whole football program from the university and NCAA rules and make it a profit venture operated by the schools. Athletes are paid employees --- students are students.

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                • Blaze
                  Full Member Status

                  • Jan 2009
                  • 4371

                  What is wrong with a collage age person being paid very large bucks to be entertainment?
                  "I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. - Some come from ahead and some come from behind. - But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. - Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" ~ Dr. Seuss
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                  • Va Beach VH Fan
                    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 17913

                    Originally posted by gbranton
                    How much are tickets to see your kid?
                    Those tickets are equivalent exactly to one four-year scholarship, my friend....
                    Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                    "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                    "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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                    • Fairwrning
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11371

                      The injury factor plays in..unless you are a complete idiot, you are gonna opt for education over athletics...paid to play is a big risk..a couple of years and out if you are skilled and hope a dirty Ndominic Suh fucker doesnt blind side you..

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                      • TFM_Dale
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 7943

                        Originally posted by Fairwrning
                        The injury factor plays in..unless you are a complete idiot, you are gonna opt for education over athletics...paid to play is a big risk..a couple of years and out if you are skilled and hope a dirty Ndominic Suh fucker doesnt blind side you..
                        Sure can't wait for Suh to get another shot at rHomo. lol

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                        • TJMKID
                          Veteran
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 1533

                          Originally posted by TFM_Dale
                          If they could somehow make sure all athletes received the same amount and some schools didn't pay more then others I wouldn't have a problem with it. But only like you are saying, not enough to make them rich, they are working towards their future while in college just like anyone else. Just seems to hard to police and keep fair.

                          I don't feel the stipend system for a student-athlete is ever going to work --- they will continue to find ways to shirk the rules because most of them will think: "I'm making this school a hell lot more than $250/week with my skills".

                          Totally separate the athletes from university life and make them paid employees --- they get game checks and aren't allowed to be students.

                          They could still get their college degree after the max. of 4 yrs. in the paid league. There's lots of people age 22-26 going to college these days so they would fit in nicely.

                          Easy as pie.

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                          • Fairwrning
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11371

                            I got my first Dirty-Suh barb in..yeah baby

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                            • BITEYOASS
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 6530

                              Of course with the majority of college football programs, the school is bigger than the coach or any other high ranking official. What happened at Penn St. would have had action taken upon this crime immediately afterwards and some would be shitcanned and sent to prison ASAP.

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                              • ODShowtime
                                ROCKSTAR

                                • Jun 2004
                                • 5812

                                Originally posted by TFM_Dale
                                This thread is proof that Ped State fans don't truly get it. If anybody needs a reason why the University needed punishment listen to what their fans and students still say about this whole thing. Every day I see somebody bitching and moaning about their poor fucking team and/or school I want to vomit. WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS THAT GOT RAPED?!?!?!?!?! Until you get that point everything else is just pointless to discuss.
                                We all got that point DAY ONE you fucking animal. You could argue that a few people out of a half a million didn't right away AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE EITHER DEAD OR ON TRIAL! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT YOU FUCKING BLOODTHIRSTY ANIMAL??!?!
                                gnaw on it

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