Terry Schiavo

**Warham** · 03-23-2005, 01:37 PM

It's not bullshit, Nick.

I'm asking you if that would cloud someone's judgement.

**academic punk** · 03-23-2005, 01:41 PM

So one minute she feels no pain b/c she's a vegetable, so keep her alive...

..and the next is keep her alive b/c she's not a vegetable and has a chance at some recovery..?

If it's the latter, then she's in INCREDIBLE pain, b/c she's cognizant enough to be aware she can't even open her legs for gynecological exams, much less speak or communicate or walk.

If it's the former (which in reality it is), then her expressed wishes are being fulfilled by discontinuing undesired prolonged life measures.

**Nickdfresh** · 03-23-2005, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Warham
It's not bullshit, Nick.

I'm asking you if that would cloud someone's judgement.

It hasn't in this case. I think he met the broad AFTER Terri was pretty much kaput! He moved on, granted, it's easier for him than it is her parents since he is relatively young. But the facts of this case are continually buried under religious-inspired propagandistic bullshit! Like the fact he and her parents worked together for many years previous to the settlement, and they wanted a cut of the action from the lawsuit!

What would YOU do in Michael's place?

**tomballin** · 03-23-2005, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I think I need a hiatus! Do I at least get some sort of posts-per-day record at this site?:D

Yes, you get to become Hitch's bitch, baawaaa!

**Warham** · 03-23-2005, 01:44 PM

The nurse that was taking care of her said she was interacting as late as 1996, I believe.

He moved in with that gal in 1995, I think.

I'll have to doublecheck.

**Warham** · 03-23-2005, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
It hasn't in this case. I think he met the broad AFTER Terri was pretty much kaput! He moved on, granted, it's easier for him than it is her parents since he is relatively young. But the facts of this case are continually buried under religious-inspired propagandistic bullshit! Like the fact he and her parents worked together for many years previous to the settlement, and they wanted a cut of the action from the lawsuit!

What would YOU do in Michael's place?

Probably because they were paying for her care more than he was? He and Terri lived with them before her accident, if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure they wanted a part of that settlement because they had already forked over money to pay for her care. Aren't they entitled to that?

**Nickdfresh** · 03-23-2005, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by Warham
The nurse that was taking care of her said she was interacting as late as 1996, I believe.

He moved in with that gal in 1995, I think.

I'll have to doublecheck.

Oh yeah, the lying asshole that suddenly has appeared on the internet when this case broke big? Has she been interviewed by any major media sources BTW? I haven't seen any!

Well, I'm a doctor actually...yeah, that's the ticket!...

**Nickdfresh** · 03-23-2005, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by tomballin
Yes, you get to become Hitch's bitch, baawaaa!

Uhm, I'm not anyone's bitch. And I didn't say yes.

**tomballin** · 03-23-2005, 01:49 PM

The various pain receptors in PVS's work quite different than normal people. They are very down-regulated. However, she feels all pain critical to basic internal life support/self regulation.

American medicine doesn't know shite about PVS, because of no longer term neuro-endrocrine studies, and no neuro-peptide studies on these people. Best experts are in Japan, Italy, and Germany.

They dismiss a lot of the U.S.'s bullshit on the subject of PVS's.

Originally posted by academic punk
So one minute she feels no pain b/c she's a vegetable, so keep her alive...

..and the next is keep her alive b/c she's not a vegetable and has a chance at some recovery..?

If it's the latter, then she's in INCREDIBLE pain, b/c she's cognizant enough to be aware she can't even open her legs for gynecological exams, much less speak or communicate or walk.

If it's the former (which in reality it is), then her expressed wishes are being fulfilled by discontinuing undesired prolonged life measures.

**tomballin** · 03-23-2005, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Uhm, I'm not anyone's bitch. And I didn't say yes.

>>>I didn't say yes

Oh but you willllllllllllll,,,,,, you willllllllllllllllllllll, for #2, ROFLOL!

**Warham** · 03-23-2005, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Oh yeah, the lying asshole that suddenly has appeared on the internet when this case broke big? Has she been interviewed by any major media sources BTW? I haven't seen any!

Well, I'm a doctor actually...yeah, that's the ticket!...

Yep, she was on FOX the other morning.

Why do you think her nurse is an asshole? She has nothing to gain from this case.

**academic punk** · 03-23-2005, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Oh yeah, the lying asshole that suddenly has appeared on the internet when this case broke big? Has she been interviewed by any major media sources BTW? I haven't seen any!

Well, I'm a doctor actually...yeah, that's the ticket!...

she appeared on FOX yesterday. If what she is saying is true, and that she feels so passionate about it, I'm confused why she didn't file a report or complaint at the time.

**tomballin** · 03-23-2005, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by Warham
Probably because they were paying for her care more than he was? He and Terri lived with them before her accident, if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure they wanted a part of that settlement because they had already forked over money to pay for her care. Aren't they entitled to that?

Terri's parents also had joint guardian of Terri when she collasped.

They only signed it to Michael at the request of the attorney in the malpractice case, to help the claim, because of Florida's screwed up laws. It was strictly a legal move. They never knew MS was going to break it off in their ass over the deal.

Like MS, a lot of what Terri's father says is bullshit, but not on this point.

**tomballin** · 03-23-2005, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by academic punk
she appeared on FOX yesterday. If what she is saying is true, and that she feels so passionate about it, I'm confused why she didn't file a report or complaint at the time.

She did.

**FORD** · 03-23-2005, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Warham
Yep, she was on FOX the other morning.

Why do you think her nurse is an asshole? She has nothing to gain from this case.

Bullshit. She's on the BCE payroll.

In case you haven't been paying attention to the Armstrong Williams/JimmyJeff Gannon Guckert/Maggie Whatsherass fiascos, let me remind you, that the bush Criminal Empire has been caught red handed passing off LIES and PROPAGANDA as "news". That's not in dispute, it's been proven.

So why do you trust these LIARS to tell you the truth about anything?

Terry Schiavo

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