Whose country is this?

[Guitar Shark]

Here's one for which I will not be apologizing. Go fuck yourself.

LOL. Give it time and you'll apologize for that too.

[LoungeMachine]

I actually have testicles, so I can't have mixed drinks. You can have my umbrella though, fag.

Okay, tough guy.

Straight shot it like a man.......in a dirty glass, no less.

[Blackflag]

AZ is making it a racial issue.

Again, MY concern isn't even this poorly written law, per se.....

It's the next one, and the next one after that that it is paving the way for.



For ONCE I wish this country would try and tackle a problem without resorting to FEAR tactics.

Maybe there's a racial issue, but it's a weak one. The stronger argument is that there's no way to have 'reasonable suspicion' that somebody is an illegal. So any stop would violate the Fourth Amendment. I could just as easily be stopped and asked for my proof of citizenship also, with no reasonable suspicion. So it's all fucking bullshit. And that's a better argument than a 14th amendment equal protection argument that mexicans may end up being stopped more than other people.

If that's how it reads. I haven't seen the text of this. So if the law actually says, 'during a lawful stop,' you're all fucking stupid and should go off yourselves.

[LoungeMachine]

As I said, I meant that cops regardlessly DO pull people over whenever they want.

Oh, I apologize then.....

Hey. WTF?!?!



Must be contagious.

[LoungeMachine]

Maybe there's a racial issue, but it's a weak one. .

No argument.


homo.

[MAX]

AZ is making it a racial issue.

It seems to me that the people who are protesting it are making it into a racial issue. I mean, has anyone actually been deported just cos they're infact "brown" as of yet? fuck, it is Arizona after all... I'm sure there are lots of folks who just simply have tans as well, no?

[MAX]

Oh, I apologize then.....

Hey. WTF?!?!



Must be contagious.

Speaking of apologies, you actually don't owe me one regarding this cos you quoted what I did type.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Really?

Are they targetting SnowBirds from Canada with this law?

illegal ones? certainly.

[MAX]

illegal ones? certainly.

Tans?

[Blackflag]

Must be contagious.

I'm sorry too, then.

Sorry I have to share a forum with such fucking flamers.

[hambon4lif]

As I said, I meant that cops regardlessly DO pull people over whenever they want.

Exactly! And they frequently do. Without reason, without suspicion, without 'probable cause'....you could simply "fit the description of someone they're looking for" and that gives them enough reason to do whatever they fucking want.

Usually by the time some dipshit starts going off about some tired-ass 4th Amendment jazz, they're doing so from inside of a cell.

[Mushroom]

AZ is making it a racial issue.

Again, MY concern isn't even this poorly written law, per se.....

It's the next one, and the next one after that that it is paving the way for.



For ONCE I wish this country would try and tackle a problem without resorting to FEAR tactics.

Tackling a problem starts with actually doing something about it --- and it appears AZ took the bull by the horns to tackle the problem. Where are the fear tactics?

[Seshmeister]

So we're in agreement then - excuse me while I go drink some Drano.

Who's he, your Mexican gardener?

[Mushroom]

Really?

Are they targetting SnowBirds from Canada with this law?

They are targetting "illegals" no matter the origin. I suppose Washington, Idaho, Montana, and North Dakota will adopt a similar law once illegals start inundating those states (that's sarcasm).

[MAX]

Exactly! And they frequently do. Without reason, without suspicion, without 'probable cause'....you could simply "fit the description of someone they're looking for" and that gives them enough reason to do whatever they fucking want.

Usually by the time some dipshit starts going off about some tired-ass 4th Amendment jazz, they're doing so from inside of a cell.

Exactly, my buddy who's now SWAT told me back when he was doing traffic, "probable cause" could simply be a Grateful Dead sticker on a Subaru Outback. Now and by that token, are those dope smokin' reefer addicts going to cry cos they were unjustifiably profiled due to their own extremely poor hygiene?

Again, if Pete's Brother spends too much time in the sun, his skin turns brown and he's pulled over, I don't think racial profiling's going to even enter his mind.