9/11 - What do you think?

[Unchainme]

http://dennismillerradio.com/b/Worst-Of-Highlight:-Jesse-Ventura/900200355288038551.html

This is a very good interview.

Normally am not a fan of post-9/11 conservative Dennis Miller, but this is very good, kinda nails it.

[FORD]

Well, maybe the BCE/CIA is behind the right wing fundagelical movement too? They certainly have benefitted from it, at the very least. And the two biggest leaders of the cult (Falwell & Robertson) are based in Virginia.

Of course Pat and Jerry had their own list of suspects for the 9/11/01 operation.....

[FORD]

http://dennismillerradio.com/b/Worst...288038551.html

This is a very good interview.

Normally am not a fan of post-9/11 conservative Dennis Miller, but this is very good, kinda nails it.

The fucking idiot Miller is trying to put words in Jesse's mouth, such as all that bullshit about drunken fratboy Chimpy having something to do with construction of the WTC. I've never seen that alleged in ANY theory, and certainly never heard it from Jesse Ventura.

Miller is a neocon shitbag hack & BCE apologist. He tries to come off as intellectual with all his literary quotes, but he sounds like a fucking idiot, especially when he claims to be better informed than Governor Ventura.

[Unchainme]

The fucking idiot Miller is trying to put words in Jesse's mouth, such as all that bullshit about drunken fratboy Chimpy having something to do with construction of the WTC. I've never seen that alleged in ANY theory, and certainly never heard it from Jesse Ventura.

Miller is a neocon shitbag hack & BCE apologist. He tries to come off as intellectual with all his literary quotes, but he sounds like a fucking idiot, especially when he claims to be better informed than Governor Ventura.

I don't know FORD.

He flat out asked him who does he think was behind it and he really couldn't come back with an answer other than and "I don't know".

At least, for the sake of argument you could have argued in favor of Bush being the culprit, with a simple series of points. Jesse kinda just went back and claimed things about thermite paint and navy seals.

And with what he was talking about. It being a Navy Seal mission and all, I truly believe that someone would have noticed people doing weird shit the week before September 11th in that area. Can people be naive? Sure, that point could be argued. But eventually one of those who survived the towers would have been able to put two and two together and go "Oh wow, holy shit, I saw guys in black uniforms busting down the doors in the offices of "Bank of America on September 9th"

There's just too many things that could go wrong in my eyes. Someone would have witnessed something to prove the official story wrong, ala the moon landings. You think about the amount of people the CIA, the millitary, the police and fire departments employ, the airlines themselves, the victims families. Something to me would have come up by now.

A coverup is damn near impossible in this day and age.

Meanwhile, you've got cockpit recordings, people witnessing the hijackers before 9/11, the actually fighting itself going on against rebels in Afgahnistan and other nations.
just too far fetched to me.

[Blaze]

Google the names "Wally Hilliard" and "Rudi Dekkers" - these are the two BCE/CIA operatives who ran the Florida flight school.

Or you can just start reading here, though this article is kinda long, and has some irrelevant info, like Atta's dick size and the fact that he was a Beastie Boys fan. (A fundie Saudi Arab, fan of a Jewish rap group? Who knew??)

http://www.naderlibrary.com/911.welc...rlandhop11.htm

Those are not CIA ops, per se. However, it could explain some other aspects. Very interesting article, Ford, thanks for sharing.

[Seshmeister]

Of course Pat and Jerry had their own list of suspects for the 9/11/01 operation.....

It's unusual for me to see something that makes me want to punch the mentally ill in the throat.

Actually if I'm sensible I want to punch the people that put them on TV rather than them.

[Seshmeister]

just too far fetched to me.

And everyone who isn't FUCKING MENTAL.

[Nitro Express]

The BCE is ultimately responsible no matter what story you believe. It was Poppy's CIA who created "Al Qaeda" as a tool against the Commies in Afghanistan. It was BCE/CIA operatives in Florida who supposedly taught the terraists how to fly planes. While Jeb Bush was governor.

So the BCE did it. One way or another, they goddamn did it.

Not a doubt in my mind. That's why the Democrats had so many political victories after two terms of Bush. The majority of the country thought defanging the neocons would turn the ship and undo the Bush abuses. Now what we have learned is there are neocons in both parties. The only good that has come out of all this is we are finally seeing who the bad guys are. Both parties have been soiled by them.

I think we know the corporate media protects the criminals in government. Both parties have been infiltrated by the scum. The solution is mass firing of people who hold political office and replacing them with hopefully somebody better. At the extreme, a constitutional convention where the states take over and put the federal government back in it's proper place. In a sense we are in a revolution right now but it's a revolution of information and the channels that have been controlled have now been flanked by the internet. It's becoming a new game and the old men in the oligarchies like Bushco are playing an old game. So they can have unlimited political advertising. So what they control the mainstream media. Nobody is looking at that anyways and they will hit diminishing returns with Obama and whoever the Republican kiss ass is. They are going to run that old game and the public isn't going to buy it again.

You can take power in the American system and you can abuse that power for awhile but it's very difficult to hold onto power.

[Seshmeister]

It's Saturday night, it's late, alcohol has been imbibed so I need to ask what 'defanging' means?

[Nitro Express]

Taking the fangs out of the snake's mouth. Disarming the monster basically.

[VAiN]

Over 100 000 debris samples were taken and tested for explosive across the site and none was found.

Do you have a link for that? I thought the official report never tested for explosives? I remember the debris being taken out of there with the quickness. Where did all of that end up, anyway?

[VAiN]

I'm not going to watch any television or listen to the radio. I'm just going to have fun for myself to honor the day.

Same here, I give you my word I'll be raising pints on Sunday!

[ashstralia]

i remember seeing some show where the metal debris went on a barge to be sorted through, something like that? also, years ago someone posted something about how the security/power was shut down in the towers the weekend before the attacks, i'd like to read that again if someone has it please...

[FORD]

It's true that much of the debris was outsourced to India & China. Just like millions of jobs were.

[Nitro Express]

It's true that much of the debris was outsourced to India & China. Just like millions of jobs were.

Herbert Walker Bush was the poster child for outsourcing. Clearly a globalist who lived in an isolated old money bubble out of touch with the average American.