Why I'm voting for Obama in November

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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    #31
    Originally posted by Blaze
    Did you say that in '04?
    Your prescriptions are ready...


    Sent from my iPhone, bitches!

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49570

      #32
      Originally posted by Dr. Love
      Do you consider the NDAA, assassination of American citizens and the suspension of habeus corpus to be disappointing compromises?
      American citizens were killed in WWII by United States military force if they were fighting on the side of the Nazis...

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49570

        #33
        Originally posted by Dr. Love
        that sounds suspiciously like the justifications used by the Bush Administration... which is ironic, given how similar the Obama Administration is.
        Complete horseshit. Which wrong country has Obama invaded yet?

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        • Dr. Love
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Jan 2004
          • 7833

          #34
          Originally posted by LoungeMachine
          No, the sad part is most people don't understand that the next pResident will likely add 2-3 people to the SCOTUS, and that is very important....

          Or that the REAL power lies in the Legistlative Branch......

          I'm not only voting for Obama, but his coattails as well.....



          And until we get rid of the filibuster rule, only a 60 vote majority will ever mean shit in the Senate

          By the way, Doc.....is that your own work? I saw no link so I'm assuming it is.
          The last link takes you to the source for all of it. You clicked through and read them all, right? If you're going to vote for Obama and his coat tails, then surely you should care what the consequences of such votes are.
          I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

          http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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          • Dr. Love
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7833

            #35
            Originally posted by Seshmeister
            I would have thought that the erosion of civil liberties would accelerate rapidly if you have a government and Supreme Court appointed by the party of religious extremists or are you only worried about civil liberties that directly affect you?
            I don't think either of them are the right choice. I don't buy into the idea that my only choices are Romney and Obama. Which is practically the same choice.
            I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

            http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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            • Dr. Love
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Jan 2004
              • 7833

              #36
              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              Incorrect, the tougher sanctions are widely believed to be reducing the chance of war in Euro circles...
              Time will tell. I have little doubt that somehow the Iranians will "provoke" us into war, when we have been provoking them into it for quite a while now.
              I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

              http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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              • Dr. Love
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Jan 2004
                • 7833

                #37
                Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                American citizens were killed in WWII by United States military force if they were fighting on the side of the Nazis...
                Oh, you mean in a declared war? I forget, are we fighting one of those? Or wasn't that the last time we actually bothered to declare war?
                I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                • Dr. Love
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7833

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                  Complete horseshit. Which wrong country has Obama invaded yet?
                  I like the "yet" ... it's almost as if you subconsciously think it's inevitable.

                  Do you think Bush was a horrible president just because of Iraq? Or do you think that the PATRIOT act, the rendition programs, and lack of accountability for all the torture were okey dokey?
                  I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                  http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                  • Seshmeister
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 35766

                    #39
                    In a democracy it always comes down to voting for the least bad candidate, for a start anyone that wants to be in president shows themselves to be a dodgy character.

                    Have you seen anything that shows Romney would be the least bad candidate?

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35766

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Dr. Love
                      Time will tell. I have little doubt that somehow the Iranians will "provoke" us into war, when we have been provoking them into it for quite a while now.
                      Iran doesn't want war.

                      Some of their politicians do like the threat of war though because it's useful to them. Sound familiar...?

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                      • Dr. Love
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 7833

                        #41
                        It would be interesting to see what all you Obamapologists said back when Bush was doing similar things. I'm sure the posts are here, I just have to dig back to around 2004/2005 and click through.

                        Putting a (D) next to a guy's name sure does excuse a lot, I guess. Who cares how he actually governs. Things like his record are just minor distractions to be brushed over.
                        I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                        http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                        • Dr. Love
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 7833

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Seshmeister
                          In a democracy it always comes down to voting for the least bad candidate, for a start anyone that wants to be in president shows themselves to be a dodgy character.

                          Have you seen anything that shows Romney would be the least bad candidate?
                          No -- I think they are both equally bad in very similar (and sometimes different) ways. I don't think either should be voted for.

                          If you vote for the lesser of two evils you still get evil. Almost everyone does it because they think almost everyone else will do it and don't want to "waste" their vote and risk the other guy, who is only marginally worse (depending on your philosophical bent).

                          It's like saying, "Gosh, I prefer to be prison-raped by the guy on the left. His dick is 1/4" shorter(0.635 cm for you Sesh) than the guy on the right."
                          I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                          http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                          • Dr. Love
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 7833

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Seshmeister
                            Iran doesn't want war.

                            Some of their politicians do like the threat of war though because it's useful to them. Sound familiar...?
                            I actually think it's easier for Obama (or any Democrat) to get away with increased drone strikes (including against first responders and funerals), assassinating Americans, eroding civil liberties, legalizing indefinite detention and the all the rest than it would be for any Republican.

                            Republicans seem to like it more and will naturally go along with it, but democrats will only accept it if it comes out of the mouth of another democrat. They may grumble and whine but they won't do anything to hold the person accountable. Just look at how this thread is going. Not much to refute any of the things listed above, but if Bush had done it, or if Romney gets elected and does it, you'll never hear the end of it.

                            I can't help but laugh every time someone says to ELVIS or BBB "well you voted for Bush twice" and sees no problem in voting for Obama. The level of disconnect is unreal.

                            I kind of hope Romney gets elected. Not because I like him. I expect he'll keep doing the same things as Obama and Bush. But at least I'll get to post "well you voted for Obama twice" to everyone that bitches about it THEN when they should have been bitching about it NOW.
                            I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                            http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                            • Von Halen
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Dec 2003
                              • 7557

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Dr. Love
                              Putting a (D) next to a guy's name sure does excuse a lot, I guess. Who cares how he actually governs. Things like his record are just minor distractions to be brushed over.
                              That seems to be the case with both parties. Unfortunately, it's not going to change anytime soon. There is just too much corruption and self serving, on both sides.

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                              • DLR'sCock
                                Crazy Ass Mofo
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 2937

                                #45
                                I never thought Obama was a big lefty and always thought of him as more of centrist like ol' Bill Clinton, so I am not surprised by how the executive branch of our gov't has been working over this past term. If I had my way I would have Kucinich as President, but that ain't happening.

                                The world functions in a ridiculous amount of favor for the uber wealth class in the world, not just the US. Same ol' story, same ol' song 'n' dance. For the last thirty plus years we have witnessed the war against the new deal which helped create the very large middle/working class in the US and now you see how it is and it's not going to get better. There is more money and power at the top than ever, and those who have it do not want to lose one ounce of it at all. The country is run by the multi-national corporations and the top tier of the economic ladder and it's becoming more and more that way with each passing day.


                                You have to love all of these truly crazy and delusional Tea Party types that were elected into congress. Quite funny.

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