Why I'm voting for Obama in November

[Dr. Love]

And a VALID one at that......



Just imagine who McCain would have put up there.....

Or how Citizens United would never have happened if the Florida recount hadn't been stopped.



Don't discount the importance of the SCOTUS in the same thread you expect us to re-evaluate our votes.

Not as valid as you are suggesting. Many justices turn out different from what the people that nominated them expected.

The scotus has an impact in reviewing laws already passed and signed by the other branches of government. If you want real change, start with congress and the presidency. Don't use them as tools to try to keep the fingernail hold on the court. Beyond that, there are better candidates out there that will also nominate good people to the supreme court. The democratic and republican parties don't have a lock on the ability to put forward good candidates.

[Dr. Love]

Really? :sarcasm:



Not really. It's going to drive this country deeper in debt, raise premiums, and garner no improvement in the quality of care.



The stimulus bill had no effect on the economy other than adding $1 Trillion to the deficit. Unemployment is actually much higher than the reported 8.2% reported due to a lot of people that have quit looking for jobs.



You're insane. Obama is like the QB who came i off the bench in the 4th QTR with a 3 TD lead. The surge under Bush was responsible for the outcome in Iraq.





Uh huh. I suppose a Republican President never had to fight against a hostile Democratic Congress? You have to go back as far as.....................Bush 43.



Quit reading your liberal sources and listening to the Liberal Media, which is most of TV and the major newspapers.

I keep hearing that Obama was a very effective president AND that he was ineffective because the republicans obstructed him. For all his faults, bush was clearly more effective. He almost always got his way. I'm not sure if he was better at arm twisting or if democrats are just too weak to stand up for what they believe in and FIGHT.

[DLR Bridge]

I keep hearing that Obama was a very effective president AND that he was ineffective because the republicans obstructed him. For all his faults, bush was clearly more effective. He almost always got his way. I'm not sure if he was better at arm twisting or if democrats are just too weak to stand up for what they believe in and FIGHT.

The latter I'm affraid. This is precisely where I side with Bill Maher.

[Nickdfresh]

Wasn't "The Surge" successful mostly because we paid off the insurgents not to fight?

That was one factor, but the Sunni's were accepting our money because the vile scumfucks of al Qaida of Iraq made them hate AQI more than they hated us. There was also an actual 'hearts and minds' style counterinsurgency strategy implemented that stopped the overall moronic behavior of some commanders that overused force like artillery to respond to guerrilla attacks...

[ELVIS]

None of that fucking matters Nick...

This overgrown and over reaching federal government is way more of a threat to Americans than any terrorist bogeymen...

I'd rather keep my eyes on the actions on the big banks, corporations, big pharma, and the military industrial complex...

The takeover is from within...

The terrorist story is a overhyped CIA fabrication designed for us to play into their hands...


Sent from my iPhone, bitches!

[BigBadBrian]

Wasn't "The Surge" successful mostly because we paid off the insurgents not to fight?

I think the outcome in Iraq had several components to it that brought about where we are today, two of which are mentioned by you and Nick. I don't even say Obama didn't have a hand in it. But to say it's over (supposedly) because of Obama in entirety is absurd.

[BigBadBrian]

None of that fucking matters Nick...

This overgrown and over reaching federal government is way more of a threat to Americans than any terrorist bogeymen...

I'd rather keep my eyes on the actions on the big banks, corporations, big pharma, and the military industrial complex...

The takeover is from within...

That's why all should:

[ELVIS]

Are you sure that's big enough ??

[FORD]

I keep hearing that Obama was a very effective president AND that he was ineffective because the republicans obstructed him. For all his faults, bush was clearly more effective. He almost always got his way. I'm not sure if he was better at arm twisting or if democrats are just too weak to stand up for what they believe in and FIGHT.

Well, the main problem is that many of the people in Congress who call themselves "Democrats" really aren't at all.

The so-called "Democratic Leadership Council", who were neither Democrats, nor capable of leading, was a KKKoch Brothers funded Repuke infiltration into the Democratic party. And it was so blatantly so, that it would be like the Village People attempting to infiltrate the Westboro Baptist Church. Difference of course is that Fred Phelps is an intolerant hateful bigot, and the Democrats call themselves a "big tent party" so they tried to make a place for these tools.

Problem is, they never wanted a mere "seat at the table". They wanted the whole table. And the chairs too. What they deserved was to have the chairs busted over their head, WWE style.

[Dr. Love]

Well, the main problem is that many of the people in Congress who call themselves "Democrats" really aren't at all.

The so-called "Democratic Leadership Council", who were neither Democrats, nor capable of leading, was a KKKoch Brothers funded Repuke infiltration into the Democratic party. And it was so blatantly so, that it would be like the Village People attempting to infiltrate the Westboro Baptist Church. Difference of course is that Fred Phelps is an intolerant hateful bigot, and the Democrats call themselves a "big tent party" so they tried to make a place for these tools.

Problem is, they never wanted a mere "seat at the table". They wanted the whole table. And the chairs too. What they deserved was to have the chairs busted over their head, WWE style.

So why haven't the democrats cleaned them out like the tea party tried to do with the republicans before being hijacked?

[LoungeMachine]

None of that fucking matters Nick...

This overgrown and over reaching federal government is way more of a threat to Americans than any terrorist bogeymen...

I'd rather keep my eyes on the actions on the big banks, corporations, big pharma, and the military industrial complex...

The takeover is from within...

The terrorist story is a overhyped CIA fabrication designed for us to play into their hands...


Sent from my iPhone, bitches!

An ELVIS post I can get behind....



Snowballs in hell time.....

[LoungeMachine]

Are you sure that's big enough ??

You hear that alot, I bet.

[Nickdfresh]

Obama Pledges To Repeal Health Care Law If Reelected

July 10, 2012 | ISSUE 48•28

WASHINGTON—Calling it a "poorly conceived and irresponsible piece of legislation, pure and simple," President Obama made a public pledge to voters Tuesday that, if reelected, he would fight to repeal the recently upheld Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

In an address to the nation broadcast live from the White House, the president promised voters in sharp, forceful terms that the very first act of his second term would be to "strike down this unjust and unconstitutional law," which he said would place "an unacceptable burden on hardworking Americans."

"Citizens going to the polls in November should know that if they reelect me, they will not have to face the consequences of this bloated, oppressive act," said Obama, who called the legislation a "906-page monstrosity." "This law isn't merely an attack on our current health care system. It's an attack on our core values and what it means to be an American. And mark my words, an Obama administration will support those values, not destroy them."

"Frankly, this toxic plan is just another needless tax to pay—nothing more, nothing less," Obama continued. "It's harmful and it's wrong and I won't stand for it."

Blasting members of Congress for "voting to vastly overstep government authority," Obama said that under his leadership the federal government would not "reach into the pockets of honest taxpayers" to pay for the extension of health care benefits enacted by the legislation.

Obama added that if the plan goes into effect, it is "100 percent guaranteed" to bankrupt the United States within 10 years.

Proponents of the health care act have yet to respond to the president's numerous criticisms of the law, which he claimed would increase insurance premiums and force every American to receive subpar medical treatment.

"I'm going to say it in plain English: I will not let Obamacare stunt job growth, drive up the cost of health care, and cripple our economy—I simply won't let it happen," the president said. "Come November, should I be reelected, it will be my great pleasure to walk into the Oval Office, take my pen in hand, and sign a big 'adios' repealing this grave threat to our country's future."

Added Obama, "That is a promise you can take to the voting booth."

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[ELVIS]

It's not April first ??

[jhale667]