David Lee Roth Vents About Van Halen's Future

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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    #46
    Dave doesn't want the door to close is what I got out of it...

    To me, this article is Dave relaying to Edward to shit or get off the pot...

    He submitted his material from his project with John 5 to the Van Halens with apparently no bite...

    So, what should Dave do, wait for Edwad ??

    Or play the fair circuit with Lowery ??

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    • Girth
      Roth Army Recruit
      • May 2012
      • 18

      #47
      I believe that Eddie is finally sober (for awhile now) and will realize that Dave is still his hyper old self and will let this slide. I truly believe that Dave, Al, and Ed know what they have together and know that they can produce revenue when they want. Dave didn't bash them, but was just being truthful about the past year and how it frustrates him that they aren't playing or writing more.

      I do not feel this is the end of VH as we know it.

      What I am wondering about is the "big surprise" or "something big" comment about early this year -which is now. What was being referenced at that time that couldn't be discussed further?

      No doom and gloom here - just honesty that I think is finally appreciated by the bro's now.

      Girth

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      • VAiN
        Use my hand, I won't look
        ROCKSTAR

        • Nov 2006
        • 5056

        #48
        Originally posted by ELVIS
        Dave doesn't want the door to close is what I got out of it...

        To me, this article is Dave relaying to Edward to shit or get off the pot...

        Basically this..

        There was an interview with Dave about 10 years ago, I think, where he spoke of time being wasted. I get the same feel from this interview. He wants to go-go-go and I can't fault him for realizing time is limited. I believe it was Classic Rock magazine? If anyone has that I'd love to a link..
        Originally posted by wiseguy
        That shit will welcome you in the morning and pour the milk in your count chocula for ya.

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        • VHscraps
          Veteran
          • Jul 2009
          • 1874

          #49
          Originally posted by VAiN
          Basically this..

          There was an interview with Dave about 10 years ago, I think, where he spoke of time being wasted. I get the same feel from this interview. He wants to go-go-go and I can't fault him for realizing time is limited. I believe it was Classic Rock magazine? If anyone has that I'd love to a link..
          Think it might be this - 'Gripes of Roth', by James Halbert:

          http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?3399-Interview-w-DLR-The-Gripes-Of-Roth
          THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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          • Hardrock69
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Feb 2005
            • 21898

            #50
            Note his comments about "You should see my x-rays".

            I think he is VERY aware of time slipping away.

            But as even HE said a couple of times......and we have all known this for decades, Uncle Dave does not like to let the grass grow beneath his feet.

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            • sonrisa salvaje
              Veteran
              • Jun 2005
              • 2098

              #51
              Originally posted by ELVIS
              So, what should Dave do, wait for Edwad ??

              Or play the fair circuit with Lowery ??
              I think Dave should do what he wants to do. I read back in 2010 that Dave was worth about 40 Million at that time. I'm sure the last tour didn't hurt his bank account. I admire him for not wanting to rest on what they have done and draw a pay day whenever Ed feels like rolling out. If he wants to make new music and it meant playing clubs again who gives a shit?
              RIDE TO LIVE, LIVE TO RIDE
              LET `EM ROLL ONE MORE TIME

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              • Terry
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jan 2004
                • 12222

                #52
                Ed's got a lotta physical ailments. Sad thing is, he's at a stage of life where odds are the best he can hope for is to retain what he has left. At the beginning of 2012 when Roth was extrapolating on how the ADKOT tour was gonna take the band through all of 2012 and beyond, well, as much as I would have liked to have seen that happen I wouldn't have wagered money on it: Roth and the Van Halens aren't spring chickens.

                I'd imagine it must be frustrating for Dave to think that he's been working with the band for 6 1/2 years now and all that has transpired are two tours and an album that relied heavily on reworked old demos. In some ways, it must be like Chinese water torture for him when considering the amount of stuff Roth did between 1996 and 2006: regardless of the commerical success of the ventures, one can't say Dave wasn't active.

                It is encouraging to read that Roth is still open to (in fact, advocating) Mike Anthony's return to the band. At least Dave still gets the notion that, as good as what the band has done with Wolfgang is (and I'll give the kid credit), one has to believe that a large number of fans still want to see the CVH lineup working again...even if it is just for one last hurrah...be it an album, a tour or both.

                But the band (to throw out an overused phrase) is what it is now. While one would hope that Ed is just recovering physically and the hiatus is temporary, it could well be that Ed is mentally somewhere else/not on the same page as Dave in terms of where Van Halen goes from here.

                Hey, if it's all done, so be it. This band created some of my favorite rock music. There's no point for me to lament time misused or things they could have done "if only". As a fan, I'm at a place where win, lose or draw re: the future, I'm cool with whatever.
                Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                • Zing!
                  Veteran
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 2363

                  #53
                  Lots going on in my head after reading that D-Ro interview - so bear with me as this may be all over the place. One: I admire Dave's energy and his passion to be creative, to always be learning. He seems to be the eternal student - always wanting to expand his knowledge and explore his territory. This was quite honestly the best interview I've read from Dave in probably the last decade, if not longer. Full of fire and pulling no punches, our man made it clear that he's never going to be content resting on his laurels waiting for Edward. And while I applaud his frankness in this matter, I can't help but see some synchronicity with 1985, and again in 1996. Am I reading to much into the past here? Most definitely. But then again, here is a band that never seems to learn from their mistakes.

                  Two: Michael Anthony. I mean... Holy Jack Daniels! I didn't see that coming. I never thought DLR gave MA a second thought, particularly now that Wolfie appears to be a permanent fixture in the band. While I wholeheartedly agree with his sentiment (bringing Michael back, if not for a new album then at least for a guest appearance on a future tour) is a smart move financially and may provide the catalyst for a proper 'farewell' tour, since it seems that is the direction Ed is heading anyway. I'm thrilled that Dave made his feelings known about this as it is a bit of closure that is near and dear to true Van Halen fans - but I'm also shocked and apprehensive that Dave made his feelings known about this. With Wolfie being the key band member in this discussion - any wrong move could bring the wrath of Ed, and like I said - this band never seems to learn from its mistakes...

                  Three: Alex Van Halen. Good buddies with Dave? Talking on the phone every day? Wanting to bring Van Halen to a new generation of fans? My gut feeling on this is great - love to hear this. But I also think Al's main focus with Van Halen has got to be his brother's health. I think that no matter how Al feels about the future of the band, he will always defer to Ed. And who knows - Ed may have said, I don't want to tour again. The temptation to take a drink is too great. I've been sober for too long to screw this up now. I'd rather not tour and stay clean than risk falling off the wagon . Of course, this is all just speculation on my part - but bottom line is: Al is going to take care of his little brother (the 2004 train wreck illustrates perfectly why forcing a tour when Ed is not mentally stable is not a good idea). If nothing else, I feel that an open line of dialogue between Dave and Al may lead to the vaults being open someday and some of those classic live performances finally seeing the light of day.

                  Four: A Jukebox Musical? We've all heard of Dave's John 5 project - but a musical? And yet - in the grand scheme of all things DLR - it seems to make perfect sense. What the hell. Why not? I'd go see it. Probably buy the soundtrack too. Again - this gives me deja-vu of Diamond Dave getting restless back in the mid 80's waiting for Ed and wanting to keep himself busy. I'll say this: the guy never ceases to amaze me. His interests are varied and wide, and he's never been satisfied with the status quo (hence his 'heavy metal' comment regarding the band being pigeonholed into a category when it comes to playing to a younger crowd at festivals).

                  Five: Hope. My immediate reaction to this article was: "VH is fucked." What can I say - we probably all feel a little gun-shy with this stuff considering Van Halen's history of self destruction. However, I do have a certain degree of hope. A bit of optimism if you will. While I am immensely grateful for 'A Different Kind of Truth' - which itself is the most incredible swan song a band could ever have - I can't help but feel the 2012 tour was not the farewell David Lee Roth was hoping for. I'll be the first to admit it: Dave was the weak link on that tour and didn't always sound the greatest. I think he could do better. I think he wants to do better. I think he knows in his heart that selling out MSG for two nights in New York is not going to happen on his own, and he's not quite ready to give up that rush. A proper tour in which they're all 85% healthy (because lets face it - at their age they're never going to be 100% healthy) and possibly adding Michael Anthony in the mix seems like the best way to draw the kind of crowd Dave is aiming for. Plus they haven't played the Super Bowl yet - so they can't break up!

                  When the dust has cleared from this interview, I'm hoping to see... something. What I don't want to hear is: No news is good news. I don't want silence. I don't want Ed pouting down in 5150 that "Dave is just being Dave and I can't work with the guy." I'm hoping for baby steps - like Wolfie finishing up his commitment to Tremonti. Like Ed fully recovering from his latest surgery. Like Van Halen playing their shows in Japan. They seemed to be on such a roll in 2012 - I'm hoping Dave's Rolling Stone interview is simply the start of something amazing in 2013 and beyond.

                  We have to hope. We're Van Halen fans. It's what we do.

                  Stay Frosty.
                  My karma just ran over your dogma.

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                  • sonrisa salvaje
                    Veteran
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2098

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Girth
                    What I am wondering about is the "big surprise" or "something big" comment about early this year -which is now. What was being referenced at that time that couldn't be discussed further?

                    No doom and gloom here - just honesty that I think is finally appreciated by the bro's now.

                    Girth
                    I'm afraid that is the new box set with no extra tracks.
                    RIDE TO LIVE, LIVE TO RIDE
                    LET `EM ROLL ONE MORE TIME

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                    • vh rides again
                      Commando
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 1058

                      #55
                      I like what Dave had to say.

                      To tell ya the truth, I'm tired of all their bullshit.
                      I have 7 great albums from them, I can't decide which one i want to listen too more .

                      Fuck Eddie vanhalen , he's a lazy fucking snob, I hope he has fun smokin meth for the rest of his life up in his mansion, I couldn't care less.

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                      • mh5150
                        Foot Soldier
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 629

                        #56
                        Hasnt wrote new stuff with EVH in 20 years?
                        Stay Frosty ????
                        Wasn't that just in The Roth Show ?
                        As Scooby Doo would say " Rut Roh Shaggy"...

                        My tickets in the mail yet?

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                        • Junglestud
                          Roth Army Recruit
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10

                          #57
                          you know what, Wolfgang is young and should be running with the younger crowd (and players) of his age. Michael Anthony should be back in the band but if not no biggie. Dave said there is no bigger joy then playing with the brothers, so he's not pissed at Edward, Dave just wants to play and have fun. I'm glad Alex and Dave talk all the time, I'm glad he asked them to all get together in Hawaii (but I guess Edward didn't want to). I love that Dave has worked with John 5, who I think is (at this time) a better player then Edward (no disrespect), also Rob Zombie & Marylin Manson are in this project with Dave & John. They will (Van Halen) play again together but I just think things will be different and for the good.

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                          • Va Beach VH Fan
                            ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 17913

                            #58
                            Originally posted by mh5150
                            Hasnt wrote new stuff with EVH in 20 years?
                            Stay Frosty ????
                            Wasn't that just in The Roth Show ?
                            As Scooby Doo would say " Rut Roh Shaggy"...
                            He corrected himself in the article....
                            Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                            "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                            "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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                            • SunisinuS
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • May 2010
                              • 3301

                              #59
                              God Dammit.



                              Fuck they couldn't wait until they wrote at least one more fuckin' album.

                              Next: Eddie: The lead singer want's to make a movie (a musical). Alex: I will egg him on like in 96'. Eddie, Van Halen is now a 3 piece...with Tremonti on Guest lead vocals (he is my soul mate). Dave becomes Liberace.



                              Guess you were right Palin': That hopey changey thing didn't work out for me.
                              Can't Control your Future. Can't Control your Friends. The women start to hike their skirts up. I didn't have a clue. That is when I kinda learned how to smile a lot. One Two Three Fouir fun ter thehr fuur.

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                              • vh rides again
                                Commando
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 1058

                                #60
                                Originally posted by mh5150
                                Hasnt wrote new stuff with EVH in 20 years?
                                Stay Frosty ????
                                Wasn't that just in The Roth Show ?
                                As Scooby Doo would say " Rut Roh Shaggy"...
                                He wrote all of it, the words and the music, Ed didn't contribute.

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