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Eat Us And Smile - The Originals
"I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth
"We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth -
And oh yeah.....
FUCK EDDIE TRUNK!!!
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I'd drink to that if I still drank...Comment
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Well, Lou makes a good point.
One thing that cannot translate to tape or video is the VIBE of actually being there.
Perhaps that is why Ed is reluctant to release video from back in the day.
There have been almost no concerts I have gone too since 1984 that could rival any CVH concert from 1978-1984. Some bands consistently kick ass, like Iron Maiden. Some shows are transcendent in other ways, like the U2 concert in Nashville in July of 2011.
But the shows I have seen since 1984 have mostly fallen way short of the mark Van Halen set.
Even with Elbow whining about the Sydney performance, it is still way better than a lot of other major acts are capable of.Last edited by Hardrock69; 04-23-2013, 10:48 PM.Comment
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That's cool. Thanks man. I agree with just about everything you're saying in all of this mess, but I think some people are a little more accepting of the 'everyone is a critic' culture brought forth by the web. If someone told me as a 13 year old in 1982 that in 30 years, I'd be holding discussions with people all over the world about my favorite band via a hand held device the size of an empty wallet, I'd say that sounds pretty damn cool. It seems that the toughest thing to embrace about it around here is when these discussions yield opinions that are being past off as facts. I'll admit, that is annoying, but any rational thinker can discern for themselves what's true and what's a bullshit. So we call bullshit. No big deal.
I agree whole heartedly that you can't judge a live performance by a You-Tube clip. It is absurd. I saw an amazing show live with my own eyes last year. The clips from that night don't come close to doing the actual performance any justice. However, it is a sign of the times that must now be accepted, that an audience with a front row seat to their computer screen might have something to say. Good, bad or indifferent. This time around, I saw where Elvis was coming from with regards to expectations. However, I also learned what's expected of a festival headliner. Through all of the heated discussion, good did come of it.
Perhaps, we all just need to lighten up a bit. Familiarity breeds contempt and there has been no short supply of that around here these past few months.Comment
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You know what your saying ? Are you a music critic ? Just because you have nothing better to do with your time doesn't mean shit to me. Find something better to do with your time dude ! Nothing has changed about Van Halen since last year. NOTHING ! You could argue that's the problem I guess. Set list wise or whatever. They play what they want, & what Dave want's to sing. Maybe that's why we don't get Light Up The Sky, he can't sing it at all and he knows it. You don't know shit about what goes on behind closed doors ! But because a few people said they sounded like shit (the mix not the band ) you jump on board and stir the pot because that's what you do on the Roth Army. And that's fine, it won't change my life. But you play it up and keep your foot on the floor because you love the attention it stirs up. Just like Kristy did. That's all it is. And hey a lot of us get it, you are way better at it than she was. I give you thanks on a lot of them. I get your jokes. But sometimes you are so over the top it's laughable ! If you don't like the band the way it is these day's don't go see them. Don't watch shitty video's of them on fucking You Tube that really don't deliver ANY sonics of the show unless you are there and act like you watched from the front row. And sure it sucks that Dave can't sing that great anymore. Maybe his ear monitors fuck with him but is to stubborn to lose them because he like's using them. Maybe his voice is finally shot ! He sounded no worse to me than last year. It is what it is. GET OVER IT ! Maybe the guy got lazy ? If that is all it is than maybe he should retire. Then I guess you have a point. I'll take what I can get out of them for a few more years. You fucking make them sound Like a laughing stalk ! Give me a break ! FACT, That band is more professional on a stage now than almost anytime in the 80's ! So their age caught up with a few of them. Big deal ! Go listen to the albums if it's not perfect. I said a page back maybe you should start the Van Halen is over & should retire thread if it's so bad. Van Hagar anyone ? Sounds like it's time ! Shut this place down !Last edited by 78/84 guy; 04-23-2013, 10:51 PM.Comment
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It's really quite simple. We misunderstood one another and condescension was his choice flavor of retort. By all means, continue where he left off. I love being spoken down to. It's how I've come to accept my role in middle management!Comment
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That brings back memories of holding a boom box up to the TV when the video came on to get a version of the song on tape with the said "WHOA-O-O!!!" Had ta have it.Comment
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Figured I'd chime in with my two pennies since there hasn't been any opinions expressed in this thread.
From the handful of Tube vids I've seen, the band sounded good, including Dave. After watching these clips and all the clips from last year, I'm pretty well convinced that Dave had ongoing sinus/throat issues. I didn't really pay attention at first, but as the tour progressed I noticed Dave frequently clearing his throat, even in mid song (along with the lemon sucking and gargling he did in some of the vids). The shouting/over-singing he did certainly didn't help and is all the more puzzling. So, from a technical standpoint, it's good to see Dave sounding better. Why he continues to sing songs like DTNA the way he does is still a mystery. What're you gonna do (other than bitch about it here)?
I thought the Van Halens sounded fine as well. Didn't come across as under rehearsed or anything to me. And really, how much rehearsing do they need to do to get up to speed on the songs they played last tour and/or the old warhorse tunes from their first run with Dave? Like a lot of people, I thought the bass was loud in the mix, but not to the point that I thought it fucked up the overall sound.
As for the setlist, yeah, it was pretty much by the numbers. That was a mild disappointment, but really ended up being a shoulder shrug from me. As an older act, they're pretty much obligated to play certain tunes, but that doesn't mean they can't do a better job of varying the setlist to keep both the casual and die hard fans happy with a bettter mix/order of standards, deep cuts and ADKOT tunes (and for god's sake, PLAY MORE ADKOT TUNES- THEY'RE FUCKING GOOD!! Are you guys somehow unaware of this?).
Thought some of the criticism around here was a tad harsh, but whatever. Band sounded solid to me. Didn't blow my mind, but I liked what I heard.Last edited by chuckjitsu; 04-23-2013, 11:48 PM.Comment
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Funny you mention the emotionless recording changing your feeling of a show. I watched quite a bit of the last tour on YouTube and I certainly think Dave had his off moments, but I didn't think he was ever off for the great majority of any one show. Then I heard the audio for the Pittsburgh show. It pains me to say it, but Dave was not good that show. I know there can be a big quality discrepancy between live and YouTube, but man I'd never heard anyone sounding better on YouTube than they did live!Last edited by chuckjitsu; 04-24-2013, 12:15 AM.Comment
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