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  • Nitro Express
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 32942

    Originally posted by envy_me
    I don't think blacks voting for Obama makes them racist. I think it's more complexed then that.
    If I was black in usa I'd vote for him too. Aren't black people there in general poorer and have lower status jobs then whites? In general.
    Romney said he didn't care about those people. If the other guy was an eskimo they'd probably vote for him too.

    It's pretty logic and understandable.
    Where the Republicans blew it, is they didn't go after the hispanic vote. Hispanics for the most part are conservative family people. The Republicans should have focused on fixing the immigrant work visa issue which currently is a mess and needs to be fixed. The Republicans are cocky and just ran their old game. I thought Romney having relatives in Mexico would have taken that angle. He made the mistake of just towing the Republican line. Romney didn't lose the election, the Republican Party lost it. Even Ann Coulter admitted that yesterday believe it or not.
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    • Kristy
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 16751

      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
      You've got it wrong, girly. Romney said he wasn't concerned with the 47% of the people who would vote for Obama no matter what, meaning he knew it was pointless in trying to convince them of his viewpoint and get them to vote for him. Instead, he said, he would concentrate on the 5 - 10% Independents in the middle.
      I wonder how much of that 47% is the poor and middle class in this country. Maybe the sick and dying, the ethnic minority, the ones who just lost their jobs. Yeah, much better to concentrate on that "5-10%" of the Wall Street rich. After all, they make for better voters.

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      • Kristy
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 16751

        Originally posted by sadaist
        I wish there was a Dennys close by right now
        There is one down the street - literally. I'm buying. Seems you could use some cheering up since your man lost.

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        • Nitro Express
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 32942

          The days of the United States being a world super power are ending. It's broke. Never in history does a country get itself in this much financial trouble and pull out of it. In fact, we have a financial war going on. We don't want to pay anybody anything so that's why Ben Bernanke is purposefully inflating the US Dollar. I think the owners of the Fed think they can inflate the dollar, ruin everyone financially, get out of paying their foreign debt, and then use brute force through their political connections to TAKE the real assets in this country. Watch for thuggish maneuvers in the federal government and in the UN to take resources over. Meanwhile China dumps US bonds because they know the Federal Reserve has no intention on paying them back.

          World War III very well could be a financial war and it's already going. Oh well, China is just going to wait it out and let us self destruct. With the Republicans out of power I don't think they have to worry about getting pulled into a hot war because we attacked Iran. The only question is what Obama does in Syria. The Russians are starting to rattle their sabers over that.
          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32942

            What I saw the last time I was in Singapore is the US is becoming less and less of a factor on the international stage. Sure it's a big customer and a source of technological development. It's important but not as important as it used to be. The rest of the world is moving on while the US and Europe thrash around in their financial problems. Why this is the case is the North American Banks and European banks are intertwined and use post World War II entities like the World Bank, and International Monetary Fund to influence and control the rest of the world. The IMF and WB were originally set up to bring the rest of the world up to a higher stander but corrupt people got into the leadership and just used them to steal resources in the third world. They have a pretty awful track record. I knew they were just about done when the new head of the IMF had to go to Brazil to beg for money. They used to screw Brazil over but Brazil is now in bed with China and the game has changed.

            If you get out of Europe or North America there is a whole other economy going on because the American/Anglo bankers are becoming less and less of a factor. The rest of the world is kicking them out. Unfortunately they still have a lot of power here.

            Obama won. What does that really mean? Not much. More debt and nothing that will really turn things around. But then the Republican wouldn't accomplish much either. It just means the people left who still pay taxes will pay more taxes and health insurance will get more expensive and you will be forced to buy it unless of course, you are politically connected and have an out. Show the administration you are loyal and they will waive the health insurance requirements for you. Chicago politics at it's best.
            Last edited by Nitro Express; 11-08-2012, 12:04 PM.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49567

              Originally posted by Von Halen
              Looks like my conservative guess of 80% of blacks voting for Obama was off. It is being reported that 93% voted for Obama. I am pretty sure the majority were well informed. who are the racists?

              Don't anyone dare question that!

              Doc, I know Libertarian is the answer. I just don't get why they can't be taken more seriously. Why they can't seem to get in the ring. Participate in the debates. Become a serious opponent...
              69% of Jews voted for Obama as well. I wonder if he used to have Hasidic Jerry curls?

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49567

                Originally posted by MUSICMANN
                Conservatism is dead. There will never be another President elected with those ideals ever again. The country has moved to far to the left with social issue's and women's birth control being the main fight. Over half of the country doesn't care about the economy and could care less even more about being fiscally responsible and having a government that can actually balance it's checkbook. Doesn't matter who the Republicans sets up as their candidate, they will lose to the party/democrats that will push big government and huge special interest spending.
                Did you care about the economy when you voted for McCain-Palin in 08?'

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49567

                  Originally posted by baru911
                  He also ended the war in Vietnam, ended the draft (by not renewing the law) and he opened relations to China. He never gets credit for those either.
                  Nixon was a bit of a cunt when it came to 'Nam, he actually widened the war temporarily after invading Cambodia even though he knew, and was being told, that they U.S. servicemen dying there were doing so in vain and South Vietnam was a basket case gov't unable to hold. Nixon did pull us out, after a belated and rather cynically carried out policy of "Vietnamization." His Admin also supported the overthrow the Cambodian emperor in favor of a Cambodian military dictatorship favoring war with North Vietnam, something that indirectly led to the rise of the Khmer Rouge as the Cambodian Army could no longer fight them and the powerful NVA at the same time. He did end the draft and frequently gets credit for "going to China." Nixon also created the Privacy Act of 1973 and ran the economy fairly smartly. Unfortunately he was beset with paranoia which ultimately caused him to be a bit of a bastard...

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49567

                    Originally posted by baru911
                    H...
                    6) ...Carter nor his legacy survived them when they came calling. Should be interesting to see what President Ego can do or implement to stop the same fate from happening to him. I don't think that either side of the table is going to yield to the other to stop what's gonna happen from happening.
                    Carter's "legacy" would probably be quite different if he had been reelected as the economy turned around almost two years into Reagan's term after the recession, the recession that nearly sank Reagan in 84'. You really can't compare a one-term president with a two termer.

                    Although, I really don't think presidents have much to do with the economy directly, but it was clearly mismanaged under Bush early and often, starting with the corporate scandals and the seeming castration of the SEC staffed by seeming Keystone incompetents...

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                    • Nickdfresh
                      SUPER MODERATOR

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49567

                      Originally posted by Nitro Express
                      Boy his cabinet is crooked as all get out but then so was Bush's. I compared Obama to Roosevelt in regard to winning a second term in a poor economy. But you are right, he is no FDR by any means. To be honest, Clinton at least was more competent. I think Obama is in over his head much like Bush was. I would say Obama is more like Bush than Clinton.

                      If we had an FDR in office we would be building stuff. When was the last time we built a big bridge in this country? We have roads and bridges falling apart and people need jobs and we are giving trillions to bankers and spending billions on elections. Look at the money wasted on an election that changed nothing.

                      FDR created a lot of shovel ready jobs and we still enjoy the benefits of those projects. Obama could have started a federal road and bridge overhaul program and put a lot of people to work. He's spent $5 Trillion. On what?
                      If you wanted shovel ready projects, you needed a lot more than $5 Trillion, bubs. And "he" wasn't the only one spending "it." Obama was continuing, and albeit expanding, what Bush started in his extremely ineffectual final days. Maybe you can shovel some of your bullshit...

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49567

                        Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                        Meh......give Ohio to him.



                        Turns out we didnt even need it.....
                        Or Florida. Thank god their Third World, Banana Republic gov't couldn't even fuck this one up. Even with their 10-page novella ballot composed by people whom can't actually read...

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                        • Va Beach VH Fan
                          ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 17913

                          Hilarious !!

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                          • jhale667
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 20929

                            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                            I appreciate your response, but I do have to disagree when you said "cause his politics are in their interest." They may think that, but they're really not. Relying on the government is in nobody's interest and neither is a high unemployment rate nor a vastly increasing national debt.
                            The problem with your (as usual) idiotic premise is you so desperately want to believe that blacks that voted for him are voting to "rely on government" you racist fucktard.


                            Maybe they voted for Obama because Romney's a POS.
                            Originally posted by conmee
                            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                            That is all.

                            Icon.
                            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                            Originally posted by Isaac R.
                            Then it's really true??

                            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                            Originally posted by eddie78
                            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                            • Satan
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 6664

                              Seriously though, who could blame a Black person for voting against someone who literally believes they are an inferior race, cursed by Elohim, because their ancestors were angels who were too lazy to fight ME?

                              That wouldn't exactly inspire me to vote for him.
                              Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                              Originally posted by Sockfucker
                              I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                              • Va Beach VH Fan
                                ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 17913

                                Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                                "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                                "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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