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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49563

    Originally posted by jacksmar
    Okay, how about our murder rate is about four times that of Western Europe?

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32942

      Originally posted by jhale667
      One day Obama was shooting at some food and out of the ground came bubbling crude. Oil that is. Black gold. Texas tea.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32942

        Originally posted by jacksmar
        You can fudge statistical data to say anything you want. My statistics professor used to joke he was going to show us how to lie effectively. The weakest part of statistics is the sampling. If your raw data sucks it's basically garbage in and garbage out. Then of course you can be very selective on what raw data you are using to have a calculated result. It's much like a company cooking their books by reporting every item manufactured as a sale when in reality they don't sell everything. The first question you ask yourself is who is reporting the statistics and who benefits?
        Last edited by Nitro Express; 02-04-2013, 01:22 PM.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • El Bastardo
          Groupie
          • Jan 2005
          • 94

          some gooduns
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          • El Bastardo
            Groupie
            • Jan 2005
            • 94

            aaaarf
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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              Alex Jones to Confront Piers Morgan in Texas




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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49563

                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                You can fudge statistical data to say anything you want. My statistics professor used to joke he was going to show us how to lie effectively. The weakest part of statistics is the sampling. If your raw data sucks it's basically garbage in and garbage out. Then of course you can be very selective on what raw data you are using to have a calculated result. It's much like a company cooking their books by reporting every item manufactured as a sale when in reality they don't sell everything. The first question you ask yourself is who is reporting the statistics and who benefits?
                Good for your statistics professor and his admittedly bullshit job. But dead people are a pretty cut and dry measure and are hard to "fudge"...

                When I hear people like BBB try to make the absurd case that the UK is actually MORE violent than the U.S. even though they have maybe a quarter if not one-fifth our violent death rate, it's the gun lobby that is reaching for absurdities...
                Last edited by Nickdfresh; 02-04-2013, 08:02 PM.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49563

                  Originally posted by ELVIS


                  Wow! What a fucking badass!

                  I mean, Piers Morgan is in Texas tonight having reasoned discussions with people who disagree with him and giving them air time to express their point of view and even firing AR-derived rifles and a .50 cal machine-gun. But that dumpy bag of wind POS is going to again "confront" Piers with more idiotic rantings and ignorance of simpleton school boy histories by shouting him down...

                  I hate defending Morgan, but Jesus does he make Americans look by a bunch of dummy heathens that don't know basic historical facts...

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49563

                    For the moment, Alex Jones is making Ted Nugent seem lucid and somewhat sensible as he's with Piers now...

                    I take that back...

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                    • DONNIEP
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 13373

                      I'm watching this now. I restarted it and I hope both sides can dial down the rhetoric and have a serious discussion. I don't see Piers doing that but I hope I'm wrong.
                      American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32942

                        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                        Good for your statistics professor and his admittedly bullshit job. But dead people are a pretty cut and dry measure and are hard to "fudge"...

                        When I hear people like BBB try to make the absurd case that the UK is actually MORE violent than the U.S. even though they have maybe a quarter if not one-fifth our violent death rate, it's the gun lobby that is reaching for absurdities...
                        You can fudge dead people just like anything else. Today banks fudge their credit ratings like in the Libor scandal. Junk is given AAA bond ratings. If this is going on in some of the most supposedly trusted financial institutions then it's going on everywhere. I think if we had actual audits on a lot of things we would find there has been a whole lotta lying going on.

                        What's a reputable institution anymore and who do you trust? Climate data is fudged by reputable universities to sell a global carbon tax and the media pimps fear to sell some political agenda.

                        Everyone is lying. Everything is bullshit now. Everything is a scam.
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32942

                          Originally posted by DONNIEP
                          I'm watching this now. I restarted it and I hope both sides can dial down the rhetoric and have a serious discussion. I don't see Piers doing that but I hope I'm wrong.
                          It's the anti-gun people realizing they thought they could get more out of a horrible tragedy and they didn't. They pushed hard and it backfired on them and now they are trying to look like they like guns now. It's stupid PR. It's a fucking circus. There is no neutral news anymore and there is always an agenda. Not worth wasting your time watching. Your time would be better spent playing pool down at the bar with some friends. Live your life instead of watching these dorks on TV sell lies. They are just paid actors.

                          Van Halen really needs to get on the road so we have something else to talk about than this shit.
                          Last edited by Nitro Express; 02-04-2013, 11:08 PM.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49563

                            Originally posted by Nitro Express
                            You can fudge dead people just like anything else. Today banks fudge their credit ratings like in the Libor scandal. Junk is given AAA bond ratings. If this is going on in some of the most supposedly trusted financial institutions then it's going on everywhere. I think if we had actual audits on a lot of things we would find there has been a whole lotta lying going on.

                            What's a reputable institution anymore and who do you trust? Climate data is fudged by reputable universities to sell a global carbon tax and the media pimps fear to sell some political agenda.

                            Everyone is lying. Everything is bullshit now. Everything is a scam.
                            Sounds like more Nitrous rant bullshit...

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32942

                              Nick. Are you drunk?
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                              • Nickdfresh
                                SUPER MODERATOR

                                • Oct 2004
                                • 49563

                                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                                Nick. Are you drunk?
                                No. Unfortunately...

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