do not overextend Dave's contribution to VH

[MUSICMANN]

Wrong, classic vh was music first and lyrics second. Dave even said it himself, he would take a cassette and drive around and listen to the music and come up with the lyrics. Shit dave was probably never in the studio when the music was written.

[MUSICMANN]

Wrong, classic vh was always music first and lyrics second. Dave said it himself that he would take a cassette of the music and drive around and come up with the lyrics. Shit i bet dave was not at the studio that much when the music was written.

[cwsmith17]

Anybody that thinks Dave did it all by himself is foolin' himself. David Lee Roth was the architect of the band, but again, all four members created that Van Halen sound. However, David Lee Roth is one of the top five frontmen of all time!

[MUSICMANN]

am i repeating myself. sorry for the double post.

[FORD]

Once more, for the SHEEP....


If Van Halen was still Van Halen without Dave, then you would not go from "Hot For Teacher" to "Dreams" in one fucking record. And you wouldn't sink even lower with "How Do I Know When It's Cheese?" one record after that.

Clearly they were NOT the same band . Eddie might have written the music, but he wrote better music with David Lee Roth. That's why Van HALEN is timeless music in the same category with the Beatles, Stones, The Who , and Zeppelin, while Van Hagar was a mediocre corporate rock top 40 cheese factory who sold records to the same people who bought New Kids On The Block.

[cwsmith17]

Well said!!!!!!

[MUSICMANN]

You are one hundred percent correct on that. But that shouldn't give some people here the idea that it was all dave from the beginning, and he was everything in vh. They were four guys who got togeither and all contributed to the classic vh sound and attitude.

[pete]

Re: Re: do not overextend Dave's contribution to VH

Originally posted by rustoffa
Dave wrote the lyrics.....all the lyrics. So I guess dave sat down and listened to instrumentals called "on fire", "little dreamer", " hang 'em high", etc. Then Ed goes, "write some smart highbrow lyrics to that bro" right? Lyrics dictate the arrangements. The legendary Van Halen songs were driven by Dave's lyrics. Ed was a monster guitar player as well. Know why? Because he got handed things like "come see your children, yeah they're lighting up the skies" instead of "that's when love walks in".

Just go die.

Oh, I like this dude

[cwsmith17]

Nothing else needs to be discussed.... All four contributed, but in the end David Lee Roth is the most interesting and flamboyant person and it so happens that he makes damn good music!

[MUSICMANN]

Listen to some of the boots and the gene simmons demo. recognize any of the tunes on it. the music on some of the songs are pretty much the same as they were released on any of the albums . if dave had such a instrumental part on the arrangment of the songs then why is all of the music the same and the lyrics changed.

[MUSICMANN]

Not as good without vh.

[cwsmith17]

Dave is a wordsmith and that is why Van Halen was so interesting to listen too. However, in Crazy From The Heat he says that he wrote half of every song. But in the end all four helped make that sound!

[MUSICMANN]

The only time vh wrote the lyrics first and the music to them was on the 3 album, And you see how fucked up all the arrangements were on that album.

[MUSICMANN]

He did write half of every song. he wrote the lyrics. Ed and al wrote the music and mike came in with the bass.

[Bill Lumbergh]

What he has done outside of VH BLOWS AWAY anything they've done since his departure. On a side note I actually heard a Van Hagar song on rock radio as I was taking my son to his baseball game....Finish What Ya Started man that classic NEVER gets old! WHOO!