Some good news?

[bueno bob]

I don't really think it's anything to get excited about...basically all it means is that WB will continue printing the old catalog. As far as an update on a new album, this is NOT one...it's just a recycle of the last "known" news about this, uh, "band".

In other words, it doesn't mean much of anything.

[bueno bob]

The one thing that Van Halen DESPERATELY, DESPERATELY needs is new management. I mean, not that they actually have any management now, of course, but that "My wife is my manager!" bullshit has obviously failed. Unfortunately, Ed's too wrapped up in his bottle to either notice or care. This is NOT the way to market a band with the stature of Van Halen, and if that prick wasn't so blinded by pussy and booze he'd realize that. Makes me wonder why Alex and David haven't said anything about it to him. I suspect that they probably have, it's just that all Van Halen business goes through Ed these days, and as such, goes through her.

Lose/lose and Van Halen (or what's left of it) continues to prove that they're THE pre-eminent example of a band that doesn't give one single fuck about their fanbase anymore.

[hambon4lif]

Then there's the obvious problem....they have to ditch the kid. I have yet to see a vid or a pic that shows me he even wanted to be there in the first place! He always had that look on his face that he'd rather be at home playing his X-box anyways. During the last tour, I wouldn't have been the least bit surprised if Danny Bonaduce and Susan Dey were onstage with them to round out the whole Partridge Family bullshit Ed was trying to pull. Hell, have Randy Kincaide stand on the side of the stage!.....why do anything half-assed, right? C'mon Get Fuckin' Happy!

It's been said a thousand times, but I'll say it again! Not having Michael there was a huge mistake, and why wasn't he there? Cause he was hanging out with Hagar?.....Yeah Ed, that's not juvenile.....not at all!
The argument has been made that Mikey's "just the bass player...what's the big deal?"
Umm....no motherfuckers! He wasn't "just the bass player"....he was the bass player of the Mighty Van Halen. He was one-fourth of a powerful kickass beast of a rock band, and Ed and his fuckin' brother can run laps around the Earth trying to escape that fact, but they can't.

If Wolf were to do a song with the band, that would've been a highlight of the show that everyone would've talked about on the way to their cars, but to force him on the fans as a full-fledged member of the band was absolute BULLSHIT! I doubt Ed has the mental capacity to comprehend this, but taking a piss on Michael only kept Sammy Hagar in the Van Halen picture even more than he was before, because the "real" fans were asking where the "real" bass player was.

It doesn't matter who manages the band, whoever it was would've escalated into a much higher tax-bracket had this been a real reunion, because the hardcore fans would've supported it.

If they're not going to do it right, I'd prefer they do nothing at all.....just FUCK OFF with all these games.

Seeing Dave and Ed together onstage was better than nothing......slightly better than nothing.

[hambon4lif]

I guess this was the last time Van Halen were onstage together.

Damn!....ain't that a bitch!

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ncEiR872QwE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ncEiR872QwE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

[VAiN]

So, this has me wondering... do you think VH is working with a 'name brand' producer, or are they going it on their own with EVH turning the knobs? I hope they have someone in the middle who is capable of staying true to whatever shred of VH flavor is left..

[hambon4lif]

So, this has me wondering... do you think VH is working with a 'name brand' producer, or are they going it on their own with EVH turning the knobs? I hope they have someone in the middle who is capable of staying true to whatever shred of VH flavor is left..

If they had any sense, they'd have Teddy Templeman and Donn Landee behind the console, just like in the old days. They may be the only ones who could talk some sense into these assholes. Bring Mike back and kick Sam back into the abyss where he belongs.

If Van Halen is going to make their 7th album, they have to get out of their own way....and do this thing right.

[FORD]

Yep Ted Templeman is the best choice for obvious reasons. If he declines because he's retired or whatever, I say they bring in Rick Rubin. That guy has been able to work with artists of just about any genre - rap to rock to metal to country, etc. And most of the results sound great.

[VHscraps]

Yep Ted Templeman is the best choice for obvious reasons. If he declines because he's retired or whatever, I say they bring in Rick Rubin. That guy has been able to work with artists of just about any genre - rap to rock to metal to country, etc. And most of the results sound great.

I'd like to see Templeman, too - 'cos he cracked the whip, and that was a large part of what made VH the way it was. Ed Van Halen needs someone to tell him when he's got a good idea; when to fuckin quit and just cut a damn song. That's why I believe that he probably does have 10 albums worth of material in the can (music anyway) - cos he doesn't know how to self-edit. My view is that Templeman and Roth performed that function - coaxed him into pursuing certain song ideas, etc.

That all went belly-up when he built his studio.

So, while I'd love to see Ted back behind the console, I think one thing has fundamentally and forever changed - they are older. VH between 73-84 was all about being young. A devil-may-care attitude, doing it in the moment, not giving a fuck what anyone thought. I don;t think they can do that anymore. I'd HATE to see them try and come out with something where they are pretending to be 21 again.

I think that leaves them with a difficult choice - if they don't already have a producer they need someone that will force them to re-think their assumptions. I say Brian Eno - but Eddie's probably too scared to give up control, to get out of the rut he's in.

[Matt White]

Terry Date.......

[WACF]

Yep Ted Templeman is the best choice for obvious reasons. If he declines because he's retired or whatever, I say they bring in Rick Rubin. That guy has been able to work with artists of just about any genre - rap to rock to metal to country, etc. And most of the results sound great.

As long as Rubin does not do what he did to Metallica's last.

I really dig the tunes but with headphones on I find it painful...plus when you add the new stuff to Sat radios already compressed signal it sounds like shit.

VH deserves better than that.

[neuralfraud]

As long as Rubin does not do what he did to Metallica's last.

I really dig the tunes but with headphones on I find it painful...plus when you add the new stuff to Sat radios already compressed signal it sounds like shit.

VH deserves better than that.

I only gets worse.. Loudness wars - Iron Maiden

That pains me. However, I'm not sure it could all be his fault. Nowadays some bands just record tracks then send them off for mastering - without careful control behind the console during the initial *recording* even a good mastering session cant fix clipping. Same thing happened on the Rush album Vapor Trails.

Personally, I like the sound they had in the 90s with Me Wise Magic & CGTSNM, but whatever they did in 98, and again in '03, it just sounded amateur, like they paid their neighbors 22 year old kid to do the work on his brand new shiny iMac.

[chefcraig]

As long as Rubin does not do what he did to Metallica's last.

I really dig the tunes but with headphones on I find it painful...plus when you add the new stuff to Sat radios already compressed signal it sounds like shit.

VH deserves better than that.

As much as I dislike Rubin's production style, the fatal flaw in that Metallica album was the mastering. If you listen to the tracks made available for the Guitar Hero game, they sound fine. It's the version released as a CD that is unlistenable.

...That pains me. However, I'm not sure it could all be his fault. Nowadays some bands just record tracks then send them off for mastering - without careful control behind the console during the initial *recording* even a good mastering session cant fix clipping. Same thing happened on the Rush album Vapor Trails.

Personally, I like the sound they had in the 90s with Me Wise Magic & CGTSNM, but whatever they did in 98, and again in '03, it just sounded amateur, like they paid their neighbors 22 year old kid to do the work on his brand new shiny iMac.

Yech, don't get me started on Vapor Trails. What a disaster that was. As for VH III, I found it laughable that Edward Van Halen blamed the mastering for the album's amateurish sound. As I've said before, even I know enough about production to shut off the fish tank and not run the microwave when recording guitar tracks. The buzzing amp sounds on several songs, along with the crummy recording (and playing) of the bass and the at times murky sounding drums are simply embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

As much as I dislike Rubin's production style, the fatal flaw in that Metallica album was the mastering.

Actually, the fatal flaw in every Metallica album since ...AJFA has been the band itself. Utter CRAP.

Cheers! :bottle:

[neuralfraud]

Actually, the fatal flaw in every Metallica album since ...AJFA has been the band itself. Utter CRAP.

Cheers! :bottle:

+1
lol

[VAiN]

I agree with Templeman or Rubin.. but i get the feeling that this will be a homemade project.. My nightmare is EVH proclaiming Wolf's amazing gift for production.