I'd have to question do these people really exist? Or were they mislead with intention? Or was the requested docs over-burdensome or out-of-line?
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Golly, this is really interesting reading. I see why ChiChi did not get back to me right away."I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. - Some come from ahead and some come from behind. - But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. - Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" ~ Dr. SeusssigpicComment
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"I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. - Some come from ahead and some come from behind. - But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. - Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" ~ Dr. SeusssigpicComment
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Overall, much like the May 4th protestors that happen each year on campus, when I see folks who are apart of the young socialist/communist, etc movement, it kinda takes away from legitimate points that could be made about the condition of things going on.
And I realize that those involved could be a small percentage compared to the entire whole that protests, but to me it's the same as the tea party. I don't think that all of those involved with that are racist, anti-abortion, bigots who are bordering on psychotic, but the problem is, that the possible minority are the one that get the attention and are the ones that get shown to be the face of the movement.
I'll say this, I think both movements say a lot of good things that need to be heard. Clearly we're in bad shape as a nation, and it's good that those involved are hearing perhaps the overall message. I just struggle to get behind those that are that extreme in that regard.
There needs to be one unified message from everyone across the country that the status quo has to stop and that changes have to be made. We can deal with whatever beliefs we differ as a country later when we cross that bridge, for now, lets try to actually make this country better.Still waiting for a relevant Browns TeamComment
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You know, Unchainme, if you find your voice is not well heard, perhaps you are not speaking up.
occupytogether.org/events/midwest/ohio"I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. - Some come from ahead and some come from behind. - But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. - Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" ~ Dr. SeusssigpicComment
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Moreover, if you " just struggle to get behind", then try on a pair of leaderships.
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Interesting timing~
An Open Letter to Wall Street
Tuesday 4 October 2011
by: William Rivers Pitt, Truthout | Op-Ed
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- James Douglas Morrison

Protesters, some dressed as zombies,
walk the streets as part of the Occupy Wall Street protests,
which began three weeks ago, in New York.
(Photo: Damon Winter / The New York Times)
Before anything else, I would like to apologize for the mess outside your office. It's been three weeks since all those hippies and punk-rockers and students and union members and working mothers and single fathers and airline pilots and teachers and retail workers and military service members and foreclosure victims decided to camp out on your turf, and I'm sure it has been quite an inconvenience for you. How is a person supposed to spend their massive, virtually untaxed bonus money on a double latte and an eight-ball with all that rabble clogging the sidewalks, right?
Your friends at JP Morgan Chase just donated $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation, the largest donation ever given to the NYPD. You'd think that much cheese would buy a little crowd control, but no. Sure, one of the "white shirt" commanding NYPD officers on the scene hosed down some defenseless women with pepper spray the other day, and a few other protesters have been roughed up here and there, and having any kind of recording device has proven to be grounds for immediate arrest, but seriously...for $4.6 million, you'd think the cops would oblige you by bulldozing these troublemakers right into the Hudson River. Better yet, pave them over with yellow bricks, so you can walk over them every day on your way in to work.
That's what you do anyway, right? Every single day. I know it. You know it. We might as well be honest about it, and if some shiny golden bricks wind up serving as anonymous tombstones for your working-class doormats, well, that's just what they call in Wisconsin "hard cheese." You're a Master of the Universe, after all, and this recess(depress)ion hasn't touched you to any great degree. Sure, you have to shoulder your way through more homeless people these days, and damn if there aren't a lot more potholes to tax the undercarriage of your Audi R8 GT, but your money is making money at a fantastic rate, and paying taxes is for other people; I mean, come on, your accountant bursts out laughing whenever he hears the words "capital gains tax," so your egregious sense of entitlement is entirely understandable.
Now is the time to bone up on your coping skills, because three weeks is nothing. The people camped out on Wall Street are not leaving unless and until they are cleared out by force. They look all kinds of silly in their outfits, and some of their statements don't make a whole lot of sense to people like you, but they have put down roots, and you better get used to them. I'm sure the whole phenomenon is quite perplexing to you - really, why don't they just go home? Don't these people have jobs?
I hate to be the Irony Police, but that's pretty much the whole point. They can't, and they don't. Have homes and jobs, I mean. There was a guy out there a few days ago holding a sign in front of a mortgage-lending institution that read "These People Took My Parent's Home." There are all sorts of people walking around Wall Street yelling their lungs out at you because, well, they really would like the opportunity to find gainful employment, as well as a future, but that nifty shell game you and yours pulled off (on our dime) wound up immolating the economy of the common man/woman, and so the common man/woman has decided - in lieu of anything else better to do - to spend their you-created idle hours on your doorstep.
Let's face it: the mess outside your office is your doing. You and your friends bought this democracy wholesale - ah, yes, the irony of freedom is found in the way you were able to corrupt so many legislators with your money, always legally, because the legislators you bought are the ones writing the laws covering political contributions, and thus the wheel of corruption turns and turns - and now you want this democracy to do your bidding after the bill for your excess and fathomless greed has come due.
You are always taken care of - see the Citizens United decision, which unleashed you in a way not seen since the dregs of the Roman empire - but, still, there are those pesky protesters, exercising their freedom of expression in order to expose you for the brigands that you are.
They're staying put, with many more on the way - to New York as well as every major city from sea to shining sea - and none of them are going anywhere else until people like you are taken from your citadels in handcuffs and made to pay for the ongoing rape of what was once quaintly called the American Dream...a dream that used to be something other than a dated metaphor, and can be something true and real and genuine once again, but only after we pave you under, and walk over you, on our way to a better, brighter future.

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William Rivers Pitt is a Truthout editor and columnist. He is also a New York Times and internationally bestselling author of three books: "War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You to Know," "The Greatest Sedition Is Silence" and "House of Ill Repute: Reflections on War, Lies, and America's Ravaged Reputation." He lives and works in Boston.
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This video was recently posted on the Occupy Wall St. website and, while we obviously don't know the full details, we are trying to understand what warranted this brutal use of force. We must rise above the violence, rise above the negative emotions, and continue to fight for positive and peaceful change.
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October 5th, around 8:45 PM. Cops beating up and pepper spraying people at the occupy wall street protest.
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about an hour ago"I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. - Some come from ahead and some come from behind. - But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. - Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" ~ Dr. SeusssigpicComment
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Our little fire ball is really cute. But it's poor eyes are crossed. Could we get it some eyeglasses?
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The one in Dallas is not far from where I work ... I might go!Comment
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they're gonna get that old geezer for wearing his uniform to a protest!Comment
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Our healthcare was the best in the world when you paid for most the care out of your own pocket. You negotiated the price with the doctor or cut some sort of deal. A lot of country doctors took all sorts of barter or even sometimes just cared for someone for free if they really needed the help. Obamacare makes giving free care illegal by the way.
Then you had health insurance to cover the catastrophic stuff. It wasn't health insurance it was really bankruptsy insurance.
Many hospitals were ran by your local county and if you were a resident of that country you could be admitted and if you couldn't pay the bill the hospital just billed the people who could pay more.
So we always had socialized medicine at the local level.
Honestly, who was worrying about their healthcare costs 25 years ago. The insurance was cheap and you just paid it and never thought a thing about it. My first jobs out of college had great healthcare benefits.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment






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