The Batman Psyop thread

[Nitro Express]

The 2nd amendment was for exactly what it says it was for. "A well regulated militia".

They didn't believe in a standing army at all. Didn't believe there should be any such thing as an active military (much less a "military industrial complex") when there wasn't an actual war going on.

The "well regulated militia" was their alternative to a permanent national military. But it's modern equivalent would be the National Guard, not a bunch of right wing dumbasses running around in their army surplus store fatigues with assault rifles babbling incoherently about "Kenyan socialists".

The National Guard became the new draft. People served in the guard to pay for college and many of them enjoyed being weekend warriors. A friend of mine was in the guard and was going to stay in until he got his pension. He got sent to Iraq and was away from his family. I sort of stepped in as a serrogate father while he was away. He came home and they were going to redeploy him again but he was diagnosed with sleep apnea and couldn't be deployed.

The problem is while the federal government is running the national guard and the regular military around on all sorts of wars just to have wars, the state governors have less people to deploy for an emergency. Nothing wrong with calling the guard up to defend the country but they are using it to fight someone's pet wars.

[ELVIS]

Well, gun sales have certainly taken off (for whatever reason) since the shooting, so that's good...

And a quick google search shows I'm not alone in my paranoid ramblings...

[ELVIS]

So no more surrogate pussy, eh Nitro ??

BTW sheep apnea is common around these boards...

[Nitro Express]

No adultry is not cool. I thought sheep apnea was rampant over at Chickenfoot.com and Redrocker. com.

[ELVIS]

LMAO!

[ashstralia]

And a quick google search shows I'm not alone in my paranoid ramblings...

and you're happy to be included as a member of this group?

hmmmkay then.

[ELVIS]

Sure...

Although I don't trust the government one bit, I'm only paranoid on the Internet...

My real life is awesome...

[ashstralia]

our countries are so similar on many levels and so vastly different on others...

that's not a sledge; just a pragmatic observation.

[ELVIS]

How James Holmes will be evaluated by psychiatrists


James Holmes, the suspect responsible for the worst mass shooting in U.S. history, has begun a legal journey that will include an extensive psychiatric evaluation and may include a plea that he is not criminally responsible for his acts--an "insanity" plea. As a forensic psychiatrist, I have participated in many such evaluations and then rendered expert testimony about killers in court.

Here's how they work:

First, given the extraordinary change in Holmes' mental status--from brilliant neuroscience Ph.D candidate to a mass killer--all organic (i.e. physical) causes for psychiatric symptoms must be excluded via an extensive medical work-up, including an MRI (to rule out a brain tumor or slow bleed), an EEG (to rule out seizures), a lumbar puncture (to obtain cerebrospinal fluid to rule out a central nervous system infection) and blood work (to rule out toxicity from heavy metals, other physiological abnormalities and any use by Holmes of illicit drugs). Any medication with which Holmes has recently been treated will be considered for its possible psychiatric side effects.

Second, a detailed series of psychiatric interviews will be conducted to create a timeline of Holmes' life story--from birth right through any recent stressors--and to attempt to determine how Holmes thinks, feels and communicates. This will include an analysis of Holmes' personality, as well as a determination of whether he harbors any fixed and false beliefs (delusions)--like being under the control of aliens, being specially selected to save the world, being pursued by the CIA or having thoughts implanted into his head by devices in the walls of his apartment.

Pains will be taken to observe whether he acts as though he is hallucinating--hearing voices or seeing visions or experiencing odd bodily sensations (of, for example, his skin peeling away) in the absence of any stimulus to account for them.

Long, written psychological tests--like the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory--will likely be used, as well, in order to support or refute data gleaned from the clinical interviews, to gain further insight into Holmes' ways of thinking and feeling and to determine whether he is faking or exaggerating symptoms or, conversely, attempting to cover up symptoms. The tests and the way they are analyzed have built-in mechanisms to identify those who are trying to seem crazy when they are not--or trying to seem normal when they are not.

The medical work-up, psychiatric interviews and psychological testing will probably both be used first to determine whether Mr. Holmes is competent to stand trial or too burdened by mental illness. The bar is pretty low. The issue is whether Holmes knows how a courtroom works (that a judge administrates the proceedings and a jury determines guilt or innocence, that his defense attorney will attempt to establish his innocence and a prosecutor will attempt to establish guilt, that he is the one accused of a crime) and that Holmes can assist his attorney in defending him (rather than being too confused to follow along or too distracted by voices or refusing to speak with his attorney, whom he considers, for example, to be an alien or one of the people sent by the devil to make him renounce God).

The medical and psychiatric evaluation(s) will also form the basis of any "insanity" plea Holmes may put forward. The questions at the heart of that matter will be whether a major mental illness so impaired Mr. Holmes as to render him unable to tell right from wrong, or if he still knew right from wrong, and whether an illness so impaired him as to render him unable to conform his behavior to the requirements of the law.

While forensic psychiatrists hired by the state and those hired by the accused often disagree whether a defendant suffers from a mental illness that qualifies him or her as not criminally responsible, sometimes they do agree--and, sometimes, the fact that they are in complete agreement even before trial leads to a trial never taking place. After all, the district attorney in Colorado will need to decide whether to take this case to court or, after receiving information from psychiatrists, whether to agree Holmes should simply have his plea of insanity (if offered) automatically accepted, leading to his hospitalization on a locked psychiatry unit.

It is important to note that while planning a killing is part of the data used to evaluate the mental state of a killer, some people who are psychotic and who kill based on incredibly powerful, unavoidable delusions, do so with a great deal of planning. If, for example, one were to believe that aliens had invaded the Earth and taken the form of one's family, one might plan for a long time how to do away with them and save the universe. Yet, the foundation of one's motivation would be a product of mental illness.

Contrary to popular belief, defendants who are found not criminally responsible by virtue of a mental illness generally remain on locked psychiatry units for several decades--or for life. This has been the case, for example, for John Hinckley, Jr., the man who, in 1981, shot Ronald Reagan to impress actress Jodi Foster. He has remained an inpatient--with some passes to his family home--at St. Elizabeth's Hospital in Washington, D.C. for more than 30 years.

Holmes' journey through the system is just beginning. Insanity pleas are notoriously unsuccessful. The vast, vast majority fail, probably because juries simply don't want to worry over whether a person capable of horrific acts will ever hit the streets. So, if Holmes should offer such a plea and prevail, it will be because he isn't even close to sane and because the culprit who stole 12 lives and shattered dozens more was mental illness, camouflaged by those accomplices who saw it hobbling a man and did nothing--or too little.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/0...#ixzz21d6M182n

[ashstralia]

i'm finishing my psych degree and moving to america. $$$

[ELVIS]

It's a bunch of bullshit...

The DSM-IV has a diagnosis and corresponding big pharma solution for every human condition known to man and then some...

[FORD]

Taking anything at FAUX Noise seriously is a mistake. Taking anything Keith A-BlowMe says seriously makes you as delusional as he is.

[1978 Fan]

Movie massacre suspect sent chilling notebook to psychiatrist before attack

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/25/exclusive-movie-massacre-suspect-laid-out-plans-in-package-mailed-to/

Police and FBI agents were called to the University of Colorado Anschutz medical campus in Aurora on Monday morning after the psychiatrist, who is also a professor at the school, reported receiving a package believed to be from the suspect. Although that package turned out to be from someone else and harmless, a search of the Campus Services' mailroom turned up another package sent to the psychiatrist with Holmes’ name in the return address, the source told FoxNews.com.

A second law enforcement source said authorities got a warrant from a county judge and took the package away Monday night. When it was opened, its chilling contents were revealed.

“Inside the package was a notebook full of details about how he was going to kill people,” the source told FoxNews.com. “There were drawings of what he was going to do in it -- drawings and illustrations of the massacre."

Among the images shown in the spiral-bound notebook’s pages were gun-wielding stick figures blowing away other stick figures.

The source said the package had been in the mailroom since July 12, though another source who confirmed the discovery to FoxNews.com could not say if the package arrived prior to Friday's massacre. It was not clear why it had not been delivered to the psychiatrist. The notebook is now in possession of the FBI, sources told FoxNews.com.

Both sources said the intended recipient of Holmes’ notebook was a professor who also treated patients at the psychiatry outpatient facility, located in Building 500, where the first suspicious package was delivered. It could not be verified that the psychiatrist had had previous contact with Holmes, who was a dropout from the school’s neuroscience doctoral program and had studied various mental health issues and ailments as part of his curriculum.

[jhale667]

Always sketchy when it's a FAUX News "exclusive". Interesting, though...

[DLR Bridge]

Always sketchy when it's a FAUX News "exclusive". Interesting, though...

Seriously, did they plug themselves enough?