OFFICIAL? GUITAR WORLDS EVH interview

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by pflo
Bob-WHERE HAS IT EVER BEEN BILLED AS A CVH REUNION? I havent seen that anywhere....you are ASSUMING that. Its the 3 Halens with an invite to Roth. Thats it. No claim to a classic reunion.

Which is exactly why I could give a fuck and won't support this fucking travesty. Roth or no.

Mike was support role and did his job well. Eds kid might be good, and he owns the name, and yes, if he wants to he can even put your daughter in there if he wants.

Welcome to the world of Van Halen...lmao

Ed maybe realises he may kick the bucket soon (his dad died from booze in his early sixties) and want to give his son a little help. THATS WHAT PARENTS SHOULD DO.

I'd think he'd more want to encourage his son to get an education, rather than join a rock band, have easier access to drugs/booze/sex etc

If your daughter is a great drummer I would hope you encourage her to the highest degree. Thats what Jan Van Halen did for his two sons.

Well, I do, but I'm no Eddie Van Halen...

And NO, playing on those albums and touring is NOT work IMO, its playing. Swinging a hammer in the pissing cold rain is work. Tying rebar is work. Fixing power lines is work. Touring Europe, getting poked and drunk and having thousand adulate you is basically like winning a lottery. WRITING is work, and he didnt do none of that, and still got 25% for a good ten years.

Oh, I won't argue that (what real work is). I agree totally. But in my mind, he's still 25% of what made Van Halen work and his being fired at this stage in the game is a joke. Nothing's going to change my mind on that.

BOO HOO for "Mikey"...whatever. Ive met him, hes a nice dude,but get real. You PLAY a bass. If you get paid, its a bonus.

That's true, but like I said, asking David to come back after you fire Mike is absurd...

Also, The Ramones werent actually related, doofus. Big difference.

WOW! Really?

(go re-read what I wrote and take it in context...)



The quote function here sucks.

Actually, it doesn't...it's me...I do that to respond to point by point, because it's easier...downside is that it eliminates any re-posting by anybody else, but anybody who REALLY cares should have a scroll function, I guess...

Anyway...I see where you're coming from...but Roth, Ed and Al without Mike just isn't even worth the time, IMO...I won't be anywhere near a concert to this if it comes to reality...

[dave_is_vh]

Let's get a couple things clear:

"The ball is in Dave's court" means "we offered Dave a shitty financial package, let's see if he is a sucker and goes for it"

"Van Halen" means "David Lee Roth"

"Classic Van Halen" means "David Lee Roth with Eddie VH on guitar"

I am sure that all Dave is asking for is 25% of the profits. This is reasonable because he deserves at least 51% of the profits.

Basically this will boil down to blinks first - does Dave give in and take a crap salary rather than a fair percentage of the profits - or does Ed give in and give Dave a fair cut of the profits.

I predict Ed will give in and give Dave 25% of the profits.

Ed needs Dave or Sam if he wants to make any money on his next tour and Sam is out. That leaves Dave and Dave only. Dave's in the power position.

[Jimmy Jingles]

Sam

Never mentioned that name in the same sentence with DLR again.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
Let's get a couple things clear:

"The ball is in Dave's court" means "we offered Dave a shitty financial package, let's see if he is a sucker and goes for it"

"Van Halen" means "David Lee Roth"

"Classic Van Halen" means "David Lee Roth with Eddie VH on guitar"

I am sure that all Dave is asking for is 25% of the profits. This is reasonable because he deserves at least 51% of the profits.

Basically this will boil down to blinks first - does Dave give in and take a crap salary rather than a fair percentage of the profits - or does Ed give in and give Dave a fair cut of the profits.

I predict Ed will give in and give Dave 25% of the profits.

Ed needs Dave or Sam if he wants to make any money on his next tour and Sam is out. That leaves Dave and Dave only. Dave's in the power position.

That's half accurate, I guess.

Van Halen doesn't mean "David Lee Roth" only, and classic Van Halen doesn't mean Dave and Eddie alone. I know a lot of people are living in a dreamworld about that in regards to the POSSIBLE Dave/Ed/Wolf/Al lineup coming to fruition, but it's simply not reality and borderline sheepdom as far as I'm concerned.

Van Halen IS David Lee Roth, Edward Van Halen, Michael Anthony and Alex Van Halen. Accept NO substitutes.

Speaking of which, what makes you think that a Van Hagar tour would make money? Trust me, Clearchannel learned their lesson on 2004, and the other big promoters aren't about to be as stupid as to let Van Halen write their own check again. They learn from each other what works and what doesn't, and NO promoter is going to give any form of Van Hagar that much leeway, considering how badly Clearchannel lost their ASSES on 2004.

Won't EVER happen again and to that extent, a Van Hagar tour will never again be financially viable, not like it used to be.

As to the rest of what you're wrote, you're probably pretty accurate. But I wouldn't give Eddie that much credit...

[Eyes of the Night]

Great read ...

I have a feeling by Anthony not being there DLR having issues with that ... All their harmonies rely on him ...

[hain23x]

it's like some kind of west coast Allman Brothers band. Eventually it'll just be all the kids playing and broken down dads(Eddie and the rest) chasing each other down a hallway in wheelchairs swattin' each other with their canes

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by hain23x
it's like some kind of west coast Allman Brothers band. Eventually it'll just be all the kids playing and broken down dads(Eddie and the rest) chasing each other down a hallway in wheelchairs swattin' each other with their canes

No shit...

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by bueno bob
That's half accurate, I guess.

Van Halen doesn't mean "David Lee Roth" only, and classic Van Halen doesn't mean Dave and Eddie alone. I know a lot of people are living in a dreamworld about that in regards to the POSSIBLE Dave/Ed/Wolf/Al lineup coming to fruition, but it's simply not reality and borderline sheepdom as far as I'm concerned.

Van Halen IS David Lee Roth, Edward Van Halen, Michael Anthony and Alex Van Halen. Accept NO substitutes.

Speaking of which, what makes you think that a Van Hagar tour would make money? Trust me, Clearchannel learned their lesson on 2004, and the other big promoters aren't about to be as stupid as to let Van Halen write their own check again. They learn from each other what works and what doesn't, and NO promoter is going to give any form of Van Hagar that much leeway, considering how badly Clearchannel lost their ASSES on 2004.

Won't EVER happen again and to that extent, a Van Hagar tour will never again be financially viable, not like it used to be.

As to the rest of what you're wrote, you're probably pretty accurate. But I wouldn't give Eddie that much credit...

Well, I always had a "pro-Roth" view to a lot of things.

Yes, I was pro-CVH, but to me, "David Lee Roth IS Van Halen".

The bass player, while a necessary ingredient in CVH, was NOT the driving force that helped this band become legendary.

The only thing I can say he contributed was his background vox -- that was a sig sound for CVH.

Other than that -- I can't really say very much about Mike.

I am disapointed about Mike not being there -- but for fucks sake -- this is not like Sam replacing Dave in '86. Outside us diehards, nobody cares about Mike's absence.

What they DO care about is the possibility of Dave coming back.

My big beef with this thing is Wolfie, not necessarily that Mike is not there, but Ed's 15-16 year old son.

My other concern is the backing vox -- how they are to pull that off without Mike remains to be seen.

But I will support DAVE -- that's why I post at this fucking site -- and I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't.

I've seen Dave solo, bought his albums after VH, etc.

Hopefully I'll get to see Dave in '07.

[rucalobe]

Screw Mike Anthony!
I just want to see Dave and Ed together kicking the shit out of all these fucking wannabes.
Mike Anthony never gave Dave the respect he deserves.
Go for it Dave!!!

[SNIPER]

Re: OFFICIAL? GUITAR WORLS EVH interview

Originally posted by indeedido
According to the new Guitar World, it has a quote from EVH "I'm telling Dave, Dude, get your ass up here and sing, bitch! Come on!"

Goes on to say the ball is still in DAve's court to sign.


Full interview will be in next months issue.

All in all, this is great news. So now, we can't blame Ed, it is all up to Dave to kill the hopes.

So does anybody know if The Master Himself has had a comment about this? As I have not herd anything and am held in suspence over this. I think I need some Xanax!!!

[skullywag]

With any luck DLR has been told to keep his mouth shut at least until the ink on the contract is dry. Remember the last possible reunion?


Dave deserves what ever they are willing to give him. And if he is smart he'll take it. Dave's life and career has has been on an ever downward spiral ever since he left VH. VH has continued to sell records and tickets without him (something dave hasn't been able to do). Eddie has kept the band somewhat alive, and the name viable.

Let's face it.........Dave NEEDS the money, Eddie doesn't.

And as far as the bass player??? Who gives a shit. Blackie Lawless was correct when he called the bass a "tool of ignorance". Any monkey can play bass, and nobody goes to the show to see the bass player.

[DlocRoth]

Yay....

Another "Dave needs the money" shitstain.......

Welcome to the Army!!

Oh yeah. You can also eat my fuck.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by skullywag
With any luck DLR has been told to keep his mouth shut at least until the ink on the contract is dry. Remember the last possible reunion?

Yeah, how MTV, Eddie and Alex fucked him right out of it. Do YOU remember would be a better question...

Dave deserves what ever they are willing to give him.

Wrong.

And if he is smart he'll take it.

Wrong again, asspipe.

Dave's life and career has has been on an ever downward spiral ever since he left VH.

Nope. Try again, though.

VH has continued to sell records and tickets without him (something dave hasn't been able to do).

Each album since OUgay12 has sold significantly less than the album before it. Yup, a raging success story of life post Dave, isn't it?

Eddie has kept the band somewhat alive, and the name viable.

Wrong again. The only reason Van Halen is even a household name is because of David and Eddie. You ignore Roth's contribution to what Van Halen became at your own risk.

But please, continue to make yourself look like a fool.

Let's face it...Dave NEEDS the money, Eddie doesn't.

Neither of them need it, per se. At least not on a "I have to work for a living" basis.

What are you, stupid?

And as far as the bass player??? Who gives a shit. Blackie Lawless was correct when he called the bass a "tool of ignorance".

Blackie Lawless? He's a fucking idiot, always has been. Who fucking cares what he thinks.

Any monkey can play bass,

Again, bullshit. Obviously you're not a musician, are you?

and nobody goes to the show to see the bass player.

Which proves that you're a music fanboy and not a musician at all, rendering your entire argument useless drivel.

Dipshit.

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by skullywag
Dave deserves what ever they are willing to give him. And if he is smart he'll take it. Dave's life and career has has been on an ever downward spiral ever since he left VH. VH has continued to sell records and tickets without him (something dave hasn't been able to do). Eddie has kept the band somewhat alive, and the name viable.

Let's face it.........Dave NEEDS the money, Eddie doesn't.

And as far as the bass player??? Who gives a shit. Blackie Lawless was correct when he called the bass a "tool of ignorance". Any monkey can play bass, and nobody goes to the show to see the bass player.

Dave deserves 25% to 51%. What they want to give him is a small salary. He should not and will not accept that.

The only reason Van Halen kept selling and Dave didn't is because the Van Halen's own the name Van Halen. If the band had been called Roth, Dave would have been the one selling records not the sisters.

The ironic thing is that it was Dave's idea to call the band Van Halen. Definitely Dave's second worst decision of all time, after leaving the band in the first place.

Dave has not been on a downward spiral. He has recorded tons of killer solo albums.

I don't think Dave needs the money. His house in Pasadena alone is worth at least $5 million, and I am sure he has plenty of other assets.

But I agree with you about the bass player being useless. Except of course Geddy Lee, Steve Harris, and Peter Hook.

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Speaking of which, what makes you think that a Van Hagar tour would make money? Trust me, Clearchannel learned their lesson on 2004, and the other big promoters aren't about to be as stupid as to let Van Halen write their own check again. They learn from each other what works and what doesn't, and NO promoter is going to give any form of Van Hagar that much leeway, considering how badly Clearchannel lost their ASSES on 2004.

Won't EVER happen again and to that extent, a Van Hagar tour will never again be financially viable, not like it used to be.

Do you have any idea how much money Clear Channel lost on the Van Hagar tour?