Occupy ROTH Army

[Unchainme]

Why is there a need for this? like who honestly goes. "You know, I'm rich as fuck, I want my cheese to have gold with it!"

seems like a waste of a precious metal. Now, if gold had some unusual flavor component that none of us knew about, I could understand.

That's the problem with rich people. they always fuck up with spending their money the right way. If I had the kind of money to buy that sort of cheese, I wouldn't be spending on that. I'd find a way to spend it on getting Van Halen to play in my hometown, or get my own indy car or fighter jet w/pilot.

There should be a tax credit for rich people spending money on awesome things.

[Kristy]

So, when you connect the dots, properly understood, what happened this week is the first battle in a civil war; a civil war in which, for now, only one side is choosing violence. It is a battle in which members of Congress, with the collusion of the American president, sent violent, organised suppression against the people they are supposed to represent. Occupy has touched the third rail: personal congressional profits streams. Even though they are, as yet, unaware of what the implications of their movement are, those threatened by the stirrings of their dreams of reform are not.

Sadly, Americans this week have come one step closer to being true brothers and sisters of the protesters in Tahrir Square. Like them, our own national leaders, who likely see their own personal wealth under threat from transparency and reform, are now making war upon us.

To which I say this:

[Nitro Express]

It's bigger than just Occupy Wall Street. I think people have been pissed off for some time but nobody wanted to be the first person to stick their head out. Some people still don't want to risk losing their job. The thing is the call to stand up for liberty is coming out and from some strange sources. It's time for the nation to grow up and grow a pair.

[Nitro Express]

In New York, a state supreme court justice and a New York City council member were beaten up; in Berkeley, California, one of our greatest national poets, Robert Hass, was beaten with batons. The picture darkened still further when Wonkette and Washingtonsblog.com reported that the Mayor of Oakland acknowledged that the Department of Homeland Security had participated in an 18-city mayor conference call advising mayors on "how to suppress" Occupy protests.

Time to put the focus on Janet Napolitano and heck, her boss Barrack Obama. I think once they found out they couldn't take over the protests for their own gain they want to stop it out. Look at what she allows to go on in the airports and does nothing about. I mean you only can coast on political bullshit so far when it leaks out you are the source of the problem.

If anything, all this is exposing the problem and you can't fight it until you know what and who to fight.

[Nitro Express]

Benjamin Franklin in his brilliance once said a democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. He knew democracy is mob rule. That is why we have a Bill of Rights. It guarantees certain rights to everyone. What the politicians are trying to make us think is those rights are conditional or do not apply to the situation. Not so. Those rights apply to everyone and I'm seeing a lot of them being trampled on. They are not conditional rights. It's good to see that some in the OWS movement know their rights and are calling the government out on their abuse and violation of them. It's pure treason. The police have sworn an oath as have the politicians. They are in violation not the people protesting which is their right to do so.

[Nitro Express]

So, when you connect the dots, properly understood, what happened this week is the first battle in a civil war; a civil war in which, for now, only one side is choosing violence.

Wrong. It's a revolution. A civil war is when the citizens divide and fight themselves. A revolution is a war against a corrupt government. It usually starts off peaceful and sometimes if public opinion is swayed enough and the election process still works you can change things but if not, it gets bloody after that.

[Blaze]

Welcome to America

I can guarantee you, more than one is thinking, "WFT? I suited up for this?" And s/he is talking to his buddies when they are un-suiting.

[Dr. Love]

The shocking truth about the crackdown on Occupy

The violent police assaults across the US are no coincidence. Occupy has touched the third rail of our political class's venality


Naomi Wolf
guardian.co.uk, Friday 25 November 2011 12.25 EST

US citizens of all political persuasions are still reeling from images of unparallelled police brutality in a coordinated crackdown against peaceful OWS protesters in cities across the nation this past week. An elderly woman was pepper-sprayed in the face; the scene of unresisting, supine students at UC Davis being pepper-sprayed by phalanxes of riot police went viral online; images proliferated of young women – targeted seemingly for their gender – screaming, dragged by the hair by police in riot gear; and the pictures of a young man, stunned and bleeding profusely from the head, emerged in the record of the middle-of-the-night clearing of Zuccotti Park.

But just when Americans thought we had the picture – was this crazy police and mayoral overkill, on a municipal level, in many different cities? – the picture darkened. The National Union of Journalists and the Committee to Protect Journalists issued a Freedom of Information Act request to investigate possible federal involvement with law enforcement practices that appeared to target journalists. The New York Times reported that "New York cops have arrested, punched, whacked, shoved to the ground and tossed a barrier at reporters and photographers" covering protests. Reporters were asked by NYPD to raise their hands to prove they had credentials: when many dutifully did so, they were taken, upon threat of arrest, away from the story they were covering, and penned far from the site in which the news was unfolding. Other reporters wearing press passes were arrested and roughed up by cops, after being – falsely – informed by police that "It is illegal to take pictures on the sidewalk."

In New York, a state supreme court justice and a New York City council member were beaten up; in Berkeley, California, one of our greatest national poets, Robert Hass, was beaten with batons. The picture darkened still further when Wonkette and Washingtonsblog.com reported that the Mayor of Oakland acknowledged that the Department of Homeland Security had participated in an 18-city mayor conference call advising mayors on "how to suppress" Occupy protests.

To Europeans, the enormity of this breach may not be obvious at first. Our system of government prohibits the creation of a federalised police force, and forbids federal or militarised involvement in municipal peacekeeping.

I noticed that rightwing pundits and politicians on the TV shows on which I was appearing were all on-message against OWS. Journalist Chris Hayes reported on a leaked memo that revealed lobbyists vying for an $850,000 contract to smear Occupy. Message coordination of this kind is impossible without a full-court press at the top. This was clearly not simply a case of a freaked-out mayors', city-by-city municipal overreaction against mess in the parks and cranky campers. As the puzzle pieces fit together, they began to show coordination against OWS at the highest national levels.

Why this massive mobilisation against these not-yet-fully-articulated, unarmed, inchoate people? After all, protesters against the war in Iraq, Tea Party rallies and others have all proceeded without this coordinated crackdown. Is it really the camping? As I write, two hundred young people, with sleeping bags, suitcases and even folding chairs, are still camping out all night and day outside of NBC on public sidewalks – under the benevolent eye of an NYPD cop – awaiting Saturday Night Live tickets, so surely the camping is not the issue. I was still deeply puzzled as to why OWS, this hapless, hopeful band, would call out a violent federal response.

That is, until I found out what it was that OWS actually wanted.

The mainstream media was declaring continually "OWS has no message". Frustrated, I simply asked them. I began soliciting online "What is it you want?" answers from Occupy. In the first 15 minutes, I received 100 answers. These were truly eye-opening.

The No 1 agenda item: get the money out of politics. Most often cited was legislation to blunt the effect of the Citizens United ruling, which lets boundless sums enter the campaign process. No 2: reform the banking system to prevent fraud and manipulation, with the most frequent item being to restore the Glass-Steagall Act – the Depression-era law, done away with by President Clinton, that separates investment banks from commercial banks. This law would correct the conditions for the recent crisis, as investment banks could not take risks for profit that create kale derivatives out of thin air, and wipe out the commercial and savings banks.

No 3 was the most clarifying: draft laws against the little-known loophole that currently allows members of Congress to pass legislation affecting Delaware-based corporations in which they themselves are investors.

When I saw this list – and especially the last agenda item – the scales fell from my eyes. Of course, these unarmed people would be having the shit kicked out of them.

For the terrible insight to take away from news that the Department of Homeland Security coordinated a violent crackdown is that the DHS does not freelance. The DHS cannot say, on its own initiative, "we are going after these scruffy hippies". Rather, DHS is answerable up a chain of command: first, to New York Representative Peter King, head of the House homeland security subcommittee, who naturally is influenced by his fellow congressmen and women's wishes and interests. And the DHS answers directly, above King, to the president (who was conveniently in Australia at the time).

In other words, for the DHS to be on a call with mayors, the logic of its chain of command and accountability implies that congressional overseers, with the blessing of the White House, told the DHS to authorise mayors to order their police forces – pumped up with millions of dollars of hardware and training from the DHS – to make war on peaceful citizens.

But wait: why on earth would Congress advise violent militarised reactions against its own peaceful constituents? The answer is straightforward: in recent years, members of Congress have started entering the system as members of the middle class (or upper middle class) – but they are leaving DC privy to vast personal wealth, as we see from the "scandal" of presidential contender Newt Gingrich's having been paid $1.8m for a few hours' "consulting" to special interests. The inflated fees to lawmakers who turn lobbyists are common knowledge, but the notion that congressmen and women are legislating their own companies' profitsis less widely known – and if the books were to be opened, they would surely reveal corruption on a Wall Street spectrum. Indeed, we do already know that congresspeople are massively profiting from trading on non-public information they have on companies about which they are legislating – a form of insider trading that sent Martha Stewart to jail.

Since Occupy is heavily surveilled and infiltrated, it is likely that the DHS and police informers are aware, before Occupy itself is, what its emerging agenda is going to look like. If legislating away lobbyists' privileges to earn boundless fees once they are close to the legislative process, reforming the banks so they can't suck money out of fake derivatives products, and, most critically, opening the books on a system that allowed members of Congress to profit personally – and immensely – from their own legislation, are two beats away from the grasp of an electorally organised Occupy movement … well, you will call out the troops on stopping that advance.

So, when you connect the dots, properly understood, what happened this week is the first battle in a civil war; a civil war in which, for now, only one side is choosing violence. It is a battle in which members of Congress, with the collusion of the American president, sent violent, organised suppression against the people they are supposed to represent. Occupy has touched the third rail: personal congressional profits streams. Even though they are, as yet, unaware of what the implications of their movement are, those threatened by the stirrings of their dreams of reform are not.

Sadly, Americans this week have come one step closer to being true brothers and sisters of the protesters in Tahrir Square. Like them, our own national leaders, who likely see their own personal wealth under threat from transparency and reform, are now making war upon us.

This is why I think, more and more, that the occupation needs to move to state capitals, to pressure the state legislatures and governors to start passing bills calling for a national constitutional convention -- one where the officials of the federal government do not have a seat at the table. When this happens, either the Congress and President will change their tune and fix this problem, or they will have to watch from the sidelines as the people take their country back.

[Nitro Express]

This is why I think, more and more, that the occupation needs to move to state capitals, to pressure the state legislatures and governors to start passing bills calling for a national constitutional convention -- one where the officials of the federal government do not have a seat at the table. When this happens, either the Congress and President will change their tune and fix this problem, or they will have to watch from the sidelines as the people take their country back.

That is already being done. Many states have already passed their own sovereignty acts and we are I believe only five states away from having a constitutional convention. I will say the founding fathers covered all the bases. They knew if the federal government got so corrupt beyond repair the states could take the power back. A constitutional convention means the executive branch, the supreme court, and congress get replaced by the 50 states themselves until and new constitution is hashed out. The states were meant to have most the power anyways. All the federal government was supposed to do was protect the country's borders, engage in foreign policy, regulate interstate commerce, and have a court to determine whether a law or action was constitutional or not. It all went to pot when the federal government had endless access to printed cash when the states did not. The federal government became the cash cow, the states sucked on the tits and surrendered their sovereignty in the process. Plus, we never dismantled the big war machine after world war two and that grew into a monster and so did the CIA becoming a fourth branch of government running military operations with no congressional oversight.

The only bad thing about a convention is it can backfire. If greedy or incompetent people write the new laws, we could lose a lot. Right now we still have the rights on paper, the government is just ignoring them and doing whatever the hell it wants to do. The politicians seem to not care what we think, they are so tied to the big corporate machine I think they think they can stay in office regardless of how low their approval ratings are.

We are in uncharted territory. Never before has any nation had this much debt and this much funny money being printed. What's amazing is foreigners still park their money here when there is trouble. Even with our problems there is still a international confidence level in the security of the United States. China will become a bigger economy but nobody trusts them with their money. There is no open stock market. So that gives the option of nationalizing the Federal Reserve and replacing Federal Reserve notes with US Treasury notes. Then we can see how much of this $14 Trillion debt really needs to be paid. I have a hunch a big chunk of it is to the Federal Reserve itself. So by taking it over we erase the debt. Worldwide we are going to just have to write a lot of this debt off which will probably mean an international committee on under covering banking fraud and erasing debt to fraudulent institutions which could be tens of trillions of dollars when you add in the derivative debt they are trying to stick everyone with.

I mean the levels of international fraud are mind boggling.

[Dr. Love]

the convention can only propose amendments -- 3/4 of the states still have to ratify them for them to become part of the constitution. I'm not worried about a runaway convention backfiring. And I do agree that the people that drafted the constitution did a very good job of ensuring the states could have the final say.

[BigBadBrian]

I'll wait in baited breath for the copy & paste article you can find on it.

KKKristy, I'm sure your uneducated fat ass wouldn't understand it anyway.

[FORD]

[BigBadBrian]

FORD, nobody looks at your faggotty-assed videos from this Hitler-Youth Hartmann or Mussolini Malloy characters. Quit sucking up bandwidth.

[Kristy]

KKKristy, I'm sure your uneducated fat ass wouldn't understand it anyway.

So in other words you couldn't find anything. Must be a slow day for you Brian when you strike out in allowing others to think for yourself.

[Unchainme]

They're finally going to arrest Ray Lewis?

'bout damn time. dude's been getting away with that 99 murder of two browns fans for far too long.