Occupy ROTH Army

[Kristy]

"have to identify themselves?" Says who? CA has some law stipulating that but I seriously doubt all police departments are bound by like measures. The UK had some serious upheaval with this very thing last year and the Canucks still don't wear name badges. Psychotic Cunt.

When a cop enters your residence, business or suspects you breaking the law within a situation that they must act, they also have to identify themselves as law officers you FAT stupid fuck. Maybe they don't have to identify themselves by individual name but when you ask for their ID card, they must provide it. So go fuck yourself

[jhale667]

Brie gets more pathetic with each post. Let's correct his last diatribe:

I'm a fat, stupid, self-loathing cunt.

We KNOW.

[BigBadBrian]

Brie gets more pathetic with each post. Let's correct his last diatribe:




We KNOW.

It's good to know you fear me so much and feel the need to follow me around the threads trying to insult me. Go to my next thread, Shortbus.

[BigBadBrian]

When a cop enters your residence, business or suspects you breaking the law within a situation that they must act, they also have to identify themselves as law officers you FAT stupid fuck. Maybe they don't have to identify themselves by individual name but when you ask for their ID card, they must provide it. So go fuck yourself

But that's not what we were talking about, was it buttercup? It was about a simple name tag/name badge on the front of the outermost layer of the uniform. Massachusetts, naming just one state, doesn't require it's officers to mandatorily wear a name tag...it's optional. Try to understand that, sweet cheeks.

[Seshmeister]

In Britain they have a unique ID number rather than a name badge. That's maybe a decent compromise.

We have had the same thing in protests whereby they try and cover it up though...

[Unchainme]

You know..

I hate the tea party.

This is fucking uncalled for.

These people are scumbags.

Fuck these people.

I don't care if these people are "Rich". There's ways you act to another human being and show them common respect towards your fellow man.

EDIT: and before anyone starts, if the shoe was on the other foot, i'd be just as pissed. Same with the dealings with the police.

[FORD]

Let me count the ways in which the above video is bullshit.....

1) Posted on YouTube by someone named "777jesusrox" - clearly indicating a right wing extremist agenda (as do the other videos posted by this person)

2) Americans For Prosperity = KKKoch Brothers

3) Daily Caller = Fucker Carlson propaganda site.

4) Obviously heavily edited footage, skewed to be used to push anti-Occupy talking points.

5) The two Jersey Shore looking assholes in the beginning of the video have about as much to do with OWS as I have to do with the TeaBaggers and are obvious plants.


The guy asking the propagandists how they're going to "twist this shit" knows exactly what's going on

[jhale667]

Off your meds again, I see...

It's good to know you fear me so much and feel the need to follow me around the threads trying to insult me. Go to my next thread, Shortbus.

Who's afraid of BlandBlatheringBitch? No one that posts here, or has a functioning brain-stem. You're transparent, and an EPIC FAIL as a human being.
Go F*** yourself, you delusional f*ckwit. Do not pass go. Yeah, like anyone bothers to follow your stupid ass anywhere, brain-trust. And face it - we ALL know who the real coward is here, Brie...the guy that stalks people's personal pages (because you're SO clearly intimidated by your 'target' that to use YOUR OWN WORDS, you NEED 'dirt' on them - which you didn't find, btw) and calls the female posters c*nts. That'd be YOU, bitch.

You're a bitter, sad, pathetic little excuse for a "man", and clearly a glutton for punishment. :dafinger:

[Dr. Love]

Once again, a Youtube video proved a police officer was lying through his teeth when he wrote a police report.

But this time, his department is taking quick action against him.

So for that, the Dallas Police Department should be commended. Let’s hope they follow through with their investigation.

The incident took place last weekend during an Occupy Dallas protest in front of a Bank of America.

Officer Jimmy Hollis claimed that activist Stephen Benavides had assaulted him, starting a mini-riot in which eight people were arrested, including some who were pepper sprayed.

This is how the original story read on NBC DFW.

After being directed to get down, one of of the protesters became aggressive and assaulted a police officer.

That person was arrested and will be charged with assault on a public servant and resisting arrest.

Occupy Dallas spokesperson Michael Prestonise told NBC 5 via email that an off-duty Dallas officer working security at the bank shoved a protester and that is what sparked the violence.

Benavides spent four nights in jail on a felony charge of assaulting a public servant and resisting arrest before he was posted a bond of more than $50,000 on Wednesday.

But on Thursday, a video was posted on Youtube proving that Hollis had shoved Benavides off a 4-foot planter, sending him sprawling to the pavement.

Benavides told the Dallas Morning News that Hollis had ordered him off the planter, but didn’t even give him time to comply.

It was not but a split second, a split second reaction by him and he shoves me off the planter," Benavides said. "I fall down, I land on the curb, I bust my ribs up and eveyrhting else is kind of out there on the videos."

Benavides added: "You can see him standing there in the video and we're talking and then he pushes me. The conversation didn't last any more than a couple of seconds. So he didn't give me an opportunity to comply."

Even though witnesses accused officers of using excessive force in the arrests, Chief David Brown stood by his officers, insisting that they had acted professionally.

But then he saw the video and changed his mind, authorizing the following comment on Facebook.

Last night, the Dallas Police Department discovered a new video of the Occupy Dallas demonstration that occurred on November 5, 2011. The video shows a Dallas Police Officer, who was working off-duty for Bank of America, push a demonstrator off a planter in front of the building.

Chief David Brown has ordered the officer placed on restricted duty and initiated a formal investigation into the officer's actions. The restricted duty assignment will also prohibit the officer from working off-duty employment until the departmental investigation is complete.

In light of this development, the Police Department has requested that the Dallas County District Attorney and the Dallas City Attorney proceed no further with the criminal cases alleged to have occurred until further consultation takes place. These meetings are anticipated to occur next week.

The Dallas Police Department is dedicated to the protection of all members of the public. Any allegation of police misconduct is taken seriously and will be vigorously investigated. The Police Department encourages any witnesses who would like to make a statement or who have additional video to contact the Internal Affairs Division at (214) 671-3986.

http://www.pixiq.com/article/youtube-video-exposes-dallas-cop-to-be-a-liar

[Dr. Love]

How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love the OWS Protests
Much more than a movement against big banks, they're a rejection of what our society has become.

by Matt Taibbi
I have a confession to make. At first, I misunderstood Occupy Wall Street.

The first few times I went down to Zuccotti Park, I came away with mixed feelings. I loved the energy and was amazed by the obvious organic appeal of the movement, the way it was growing on its own. But my initial impression was that it would not be taken very seriously by the Citibanks and Goldman Sachs of the world. You could put 50,000 angry protesters on Wall Street, 100,000 even, and Lloyd Blankfein is probably not going to break a sweat. He knows he's not going to wake up tomorrow and see Cornel West or Richard Trumka running the Federal Reserve. He knows modern finance is a giant mechanical parasite that only an expert surgeon can remove. Yell and scream all you want, but he and his fellow financial Frankensteins are the only ones who know how to turn the machine off.

That's what I was thinking during the first few weeks of the protests. But I'm beginning to see another angle. Occupy Wall Street was always about something much bigger than a movement against big banks and modern finance. It's about providing a forum for people to show how tired they are not just of Wall Street, but everything. This is a visceral, impassioned, deep-seated rejection of the entire direction of our society, a refusal to take even one more step forward into the shallow commercial abyss of phoniness, short-term calculation, withered idealism and intellectual bankruptcy that American mass society has become. If there is such a thing as going on strike from one's own culture, this is it. And by being so broad in scope and so elemental in its motivation, it's flown over the heads of many on both the right and the left.

The right-wing media wasted no time in cannon-blasting the movement with its usual idiotic clichés, casting Occupy Wall Street as a bunch of dirty hippies who should get a job and stop chewing up Mike Bloomberg's police overtime budget with their urban sleepovers. Just like they did a half-century ago, when the debate over the Vietnam War somehow stopped being about why we were brutally murdering millions of innocent Indochinese civilians and instead became a referendum on bralessness and long hair and flower-child rhetoric, the depraved flacks of the right-wing media have breezily blown off a generation of fraud and corruption and market-perverting bailouts, making the whole debate about the protesters themselves – their hygiene, their "envy" of the rich, their "hypocrisy."

The protesters, chirped Supreme Reichskank Ann Coulter, needed three things: "showers, jobs and a point." Her colleague Charles Krauthammer went so far as to label the protesters hypocrites for having iPhones. OWS, he said, is "Starbucks-sipping, Levi's-clad, iPhone-clutching protesters [denouncing] corporate America even as they weep for Steve Jobs, corporate titan, billionaire eight times over." Apparently, because Goldman and Citibank are corporations, no protester can ever consume a corporate product – not jeans, not cellphones and definitely not coffee – if he also wants to complain about tax money going to pay off some billionaire banker's bets against his own crappy mortgages.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the political spectrum, there were scads of progressive pundits like me who wrung our hands with worry that OWS was playing right into the hands of assholes like Krauthammer. Don't give them any ammunition! we counseled. Stay on message! Be specific! We were all playing the Rorschach-test game with OWS, trying to squint at it and see what we wanted to see in the movement. Viewed through the prism of our desire to make near-term, within-the-system changes, it was hard to see how skirmishing with cops in New York would help foreclosed-upon middle-class families in Jacksonville and San Diego.

What both sides missed is that OWS is tired of all of this. They don't care what we think they're about, or should be about. They just want something different.

We're all born wanting the freedom to imagine a better and more beautiful future. But modern America has become a place so drearily confining and predictable that it chokes the life out of that built-in desire. Everything from our pop culture to our economy to our politics feels oppressive and unresponsive. We see 10 million commercials a day, and every day is the same life-killing chase for money, money and more money; the only thing that changes from minute to minute is that every tick of the clock brings with it another space-age vendor dreaming up some new way to try to sell you something or reach into your pocket. The relentless sameness of the two-party political system is beginning to feel like a Jacob's Ladder nightmare with no end; we're entering another turn on the four-year merry-go-round, and the thought of having to try to get excited about yet another minor quadrennial shift in the direction of one or the other pole of alienating corporate full-of-shitness is enough to make anyone want to smash his own hand flat with a hammer.

If you think of it this way, Occupy Wall Street takes on another meaning. There's no better symbol of the gloom and psychological repression of modern America than the banking system, a huge heartless machine that attaches itself to you at an early age, and from which there is no escape. You fail to receive a few past-due notices about a $19 payment you missed on that TV you bought at Circuit City, and next thing you know a collector has filed a judgment against you for $3,000 in fees and interest. Or maybe you wake up one morning and your car is gone, legally repossessed by Vulture Inc., the debt-buying firm that bought your loan on the Internet from Chase for two cents on the dollar. This is why people hate Wall Street. They hate it because the banks have made life for ordinary people a vicious tightrope act; you slip anywhere along the way, it's 10,000 feet down into a vat of razor blades that you can never climb out of.

That, to me, is what Occupy Wall Street is addressing. People don't know exactly what they want, but as one friend of mine put it, they know one thing: FUCK THIS SHIT! We want something different: a different life, with different values, or at least a chance at different values.

There was a lot of snickering in media circles, even by me, when I heard the protesters talking about how Liberty Square was offering a model for a new society, with free food and health care and so on. Obviously, a bunch of kids taking donations and giving away free food is not a long-term model for a new economic system.

But now, I get it. People want to go someplace for at least five minutes where no one is trying to bleed you or sell you something. It may not be a real model for anything, but it's at least a place where people are free to dream of some other way for human beings to get along, beyond auctioned "democracy," tyrannical commerce and the bottom line.

We're a nation that was built on a thousand different utopian ideas, from the Shakers to the Mormons to New Harmony, Indiana. It was possible, once, for communities to experiment with everything from free love to an end to private property. But nowadays even the palest federalism is swiftly crushed. If your state tries to place tariffs on companies doing business with some notorious human-rights-violator state – like Massachusetts did, when it sought to bar state contracts to firms doing business with Myanmar – the decision will be overturned by some distant global bureaucracy like the WTO. Even if 40 million Californians vote tomorrow to allow themselves to smoke a joint, the federal government will never permit it. And the economy is run almost entirely by an unaccountable oligarchy in Lower Manhattan that absolutely will not sanction any innovations in banking or debt forgiveness or anything else that might lessen its predatory influence.

And here's one more thing I was wrong about: I originally was very uncomfortable with the way the protesters were focusing on the NYPD as symbols of the system. After all, I thought, these are just working-class guys from the Bronx and Staten Island who have never seen the inside of a Wall Street investment firm, much less had anything to do with the corruption of our financial system.

But I was wrong. The police in their own way are symbols of the problem. All over the country, thousands of armed cops have been deployed to stand around and surveil and even assault the polite crowds of Occupy protesters. This deployment of law-enforcement resources already dwarfs the amount of money and manpower that the government "committed" to fighting crime and corruption during the financial crisis. One OWS protester steps in the wrong place, and she immediately has police roping her off like wayward cattle. But in the skyscrapers above the protests, anything goes.

This is a profound statement about who law enforcement works for in this country. What happened on Wall Street over the past decade was an unparalleled crime wave. Yet at most, maybe 1,500 federal agents were policing that beat – and that little group of financial cops barely made any cases at all. Yet when thousands of ordinary people hit the streets with the express purpose of obeying the law and demonstrating their patriotism through peaceful protest, the police response is immediate and massive. There have already been hundreds of arrests, which is hundreds more than we ever saw during the years when Wall Street bankers were stealing billions of dollars from retirees and mutual-fund holders and carpenters unions through the mass sales of fraudulent mortgage-backed securities.

It's not that the cops outside the protests are doing wrong, per se, by patrolling the parks and sidewalks. It's that they should be somewhere else. They should be heading up into those skyscrapers and going through the file cabinets to figure out who stole what, and from whom. They should be helping people get their money back. Instead, they're out on the street, helping the Blankfeins of the world avoid having to answer to the people they ripped off.

People want out of this fiendish system, rigged to inexorably circumvent every hope we have for a more balanced world. They want major changes. I think I understand now that this is what the Occupy movement is all about. It's about dropping out, if only for a moment, and trying something new, the same way that the civil rights movement of the 1960s strived to create a "beloved community" free of racial segregation. Eventually the Occupy movement will need to be specific about how it wants to change the world. But for right now, it just needs to grow. And if it wants to sleep on the streets for a while and not structure itself into a traditional campaign of grassroots organizing, it should. It doesn't need to tell the world what it wants. It is succeeding, for now, just by being something different.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/11/11-7

[FORD]

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[FORD]

[BigBadBrian]

Who's afraid of BlandBlatheringBitch? No one that posts here, or has a functioning brain-stem. You're transparent, and an EPIC FAIL as a human being.
Go F*** yourself, you delusional f*ckwit. Do not pass go. Yeah, like anyone bothers to follow your stupid ass anywhere, brain-trust. And face it - we ALL know who the real coward is here, Brie...the guy that stalks people's personal pages (because you're SO clearly intimidated by your 'target' that to use YOUR OWN WORDS, you NEED 'dirt' on them - which you didn't find, btw) and calls the female posters c*nts. That'd be YOU, bitch.

You're a bitter, sad, pathetic little excuse for a "man", and clearly a glutton for punishment. :dafinger:

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[jhale667]

I fail at failing.

[Dr. Love]