Occupy ROTH Army

[ashstralia]

brian the marine from georgia is a legend.

[Blaze]

Our military monies are most spent over seas. These men and women are not able to pick up and return to USAmerica as they wish. they can become like Axl, and be annoying, but that does not bring them to serve USAmerica. We cannot and shall not forsake them. Pace yourselves ~

[Blaze]

brian the marine from georgia is a legend.

Who is this you speak of? This is not me! Cease and desist, you naughty male!

[Blaze]

If just half of our military monies return to the homeland of USAmerica, indeed our restoration of honor would be restored.

[ashstralia]

Who is this you speak of?

the guy in Dr. Love's video...

[Blaze]

the guy in Dr. Love's video...

What else does this moving picture say? Do we have a transcript?

[Dr. Love]

[fifth element]

Peter King in the 1960's would have been among those who cheered on the murders of JFK, RFK, and MLK. He's one of the biggest pieces of shit in the current Congress, and that's some tough competition.

What he said!!

(we need an avatar saying that, don't ya think?)

[BigBadBrian]

[FORD]

The difference between THOSE corporations, and the Wall Street corporations (Gold Mansacks, Shittibank, Bank of $5 Debit Card Fees, etc.) is that those companies actually MAKE something.

Granted, they make most of it in fucking China, which IS a problem, but that's a separate issue from Wall Street, which makes NOTHING.

The type of irony they were attempting here with that graphic was much better served the other day when the Phelps KKKult announced they would be picketing Steve Jobs' funeral - from a goddamned iPhone

[Dr. Love]

Your implied argument is retarded, Brian. These people aren't protesting that corporations exist/make money. They are protesting that the people that damaged the economy so badly aren't being held accountable for their actions. There's no regulation. There's no prosecution. There's been practically nothing to make sure it doesn't happen again. They fucked it all up and were given huge bags of money as a reward with no real consequence to what they'd done -- and they have the audacity to push for even FEWER rules on them with the bizarre idea that less regulation means they'll do a better job.

Clearly, they care about money more than anything; more than this country, more than your life, more than my life. How many examples do we need of companies ignoring what they should be doing in order to get a better profit without really being held to account when it blows up (in some cases literally) in their faces?

And when people say, "Gee, apparently we can't trust these people to control themselves, maybe we should place some regulations around this" (as any sensible person would do when faced with catastrophe), they throw one hell of a fit and make veiled threats that somehow OUR actions are going to be what destroys the economy (even though they created the situation to begin with!)

Let's put it this way -- if you owned a business (I can't recall if you said you owned your own IT consulting firm or not) and someone working for you royally screwed up to the point that it just decimated your company's ability to make money, and you were having to lay people off, would you hold the responsible party accountable? Would you fire him/her? Would you put greater measures in place to ensure that a fuck up like that didn't happen again? And how would you feel if the people responsible threw a hissy fit insisting that you were going to destroy the company after they'd already royally fucked it?


There is a large-scale effort to discredit normal people that are rightfully pissed off in this country about what's going on, to claim they are unamerican and that they are a threat to freedom and democracy. That is disgraceful. These people aren't really much different in origin or spirit that the Tea Party people; the only differences so far are that they aren't carrying guns and making veiled threats at the president. I've heard you belittle atheistic people here before as lacking morals, but it is a true lack in moral and ethical code for the people that have the audacity to attack average people that have lost their homes. I truly wonder how people can wage a coordinated attack campaign on this movement and feel okay inside that they are doing the right thing. It is pathetic.

I hope these people don't get co-opted by the corporatist machine like the tea partiers did. I'd like to actually see something productive come out of this. Makes me wish our president was a lot more like Teddy Roosevelt. Too big to fail means too big to exist.

A lot of protections we used to enjoy as a nation have slowly and systemically been stripped away. When Exxon-Mobil merged, it brought back the two largest pieces of Standard Oil, which had been broken up in 1911. When a company or industry gets to the point that they are willing to destroy our economy to seek profits, and don't show any repentance, they are a danger to our way of life and the government has a responsibility to step in and protect the american people.

[Dr. Love]

[FORD]

While I would have rather seen Elizabeth Warren running the Consumer Protection Agency that she herself proposed the existence of (before it was taken over by Timmy the Keebler Elf, and held hostage by the "Federal" Reserve), she will make a great Senator, and unlike that failed male model who currently occupies the office, she will be worthy of the seat held for nearly 50 years by Ted Kennedy, and his brother JFK before him.

[Dr. Love]

[Dr. Love]

As movement spreads, NY mayor slams protesters for 'trying to destroy' jobs
By the CNN Wire Staff
updated 1:24 PM EST, Sun October 9, 2011


Rangel talks to Wall Street protesters

New York (CNN) -- As the Occupy Wall Street movement grew and touched even more U.S. cities Saturday, the mayor of the city where it began blasted many involved and claimed they were targeting the nation's financial sector and "trying to destroy the jobs of working people" in New York City.

The protest effort continued into its 22nd day in New York on Saturday. Yet its spread well beyond that city, with its anti-corporation, anti-government message echoing in many places this weekend -- from Cleveland to Las Vegas, from Washington to Prescott, Arizona.

Yet this growing fervor has been met, in some cases, by vocal commentary. That includes New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who in a WOR radio appearance Friday said that city's labor unions -- many of whom swelled demonstrator ranks earlier this week -- depend on salaries that "come from the taxes paid by the people they're trying to vilify."
The mayor did describe the city's unemployment rate as "unacceptably high," and acknowledged that "a lot of people are disaffected."

"Some are legit, some aren't," Bloomberg said, describing the concerns of the demonstrators in Lower Manhattan.

His comments coincided with the city's announcement that 700 education workers will be laid off in an effort to close a budget gap. They also follow recently released census data that shows New York's poverty level has increased to 20.1%, the highest in more than a decade.

The remarks drew criticism from Tyler Combelic, a spokesman for Occupy Wall Street, who claimed Bloomberg "hasn't really represented all of New Yorkers."

"The fact is there are thousands and thousands of us out on the streets, and he's not really recognizing that we're a movement," Combelic told CNN on Saturday. "We should be heard by New York politicians."
On Saturday, New York protesters set up a second base at Washington Square Park. The park in Greenwich Village is about two miles north of Zuccotti Park, a private park that's been considered the main rallying point for the largely leaderless movement in the city.

A rally was held in Washington Square, followed by a now-customary people's assembly to discuss the movement and an art show Saturday evening. Demonstrators won't stay overnight at Washington Square Park, unlike Zuccotti, because it is a municipal park with a midnight curfew.

As of 9 p.m., the New York Police Department did not report any related arrests.

The ambiguously defined movement against corporate greed and other social ills has spread to more than a dozen cities, spurred lately by support from unions and other groups.

"Social and economic inequalities are the tipping point, and people are hungry for getting involved and trying to do something to change it," Jim Nichols, who has been involved in Occupy Atlanta protests, told CNN on Saturday. "It's almost like, I want the American dream back."

Even before Bloomberg's comments Saturday, the effort was stirring a growing number of strong reactions from public figures.

President Barack Obama, even as he defended the need for a vibrant financial sector, acknowledged that the protesters "are giving voice to a more broad-based frustration about how our financial system works."

The No. 2 Republican in the U.S. House of Representatives, Eric Cantor, meanwhile, slammed what he called the "growing mobs" who he claimed were "pitting ... Americans against Americans."

On Saturday, U.S. Rep. Charles Rangel backed the demonstrators -- whom he has been visiting regularly over the past three weeks -- for venting their frustrations and exercising their constitutional rights.
"Their dreams are being shattered," Rangel told CNN's Don Lemon. "They may be an inconvenience to a whole lot of people in that area, but people are going to sleep at night with an economic nightmare."
The New York Democrat urged "more spiritual leaders" to join a movement he claimed championed the poor and disadvantaged, saying "there's no moral reason why they have to wait for something to catch on." He also dismissed criticism that the demonstrators don't have a coherent purpose, saying despite their varied issues and lack of organization, their sentiments are raw and real.

"They don't have to know what the solution is," he said. "There's one thing they know is (there's) something wrong when so many people are out of work, and we find the disparity with the very rich. ... Something is wrong."

Combelic, the New York spokesman, said the movement chiefly is trying to showcase "active democracy and (show that) everyone has a voice in government." He said the protests -- which have been associated with progressive causes -- are "a rebuke of government, that includes the left and the right."

"We're trying to broaden the discussion base. ... We're trying to represent 99% of the country that's felt disenfranchised over the past five years because of the recession," Combelic said. "(Politicians) have not come together, they've not compromised on anything, and there's a reason why there's (low) congressional approval in this country."

The demonstrations have been largely peaceful. But in New York, some have been marred by scuffles with police.

Last Saturday, police made hundreds of arrests as demonstrators marched without a permit toward the Brooklyn Bridge, blocking city traffic for hours.

A week earlier, authorities detained dozens of protesters as they marched, also without a permit, through Manhattan's financial district toward Union Square.

People have the right to assemble. If he doesn't like that, fuck him.