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  • gigolo
    Roadie
    • May 2004
    • 163

    Re: Roth -v- Hagar

    Originally posted by sgtrj2003
    What many of you fail to realize is that Sammy doesn't really need VH. Face it, Sam had his own successful solo career before joining VH the first time, and after parting ways, he picked right up where he left off. Sure, Diamond Dave had a few successes (Crazy From The Heat and Yankee Rose), but after that, he pretty much sucked. If Sam and VH part ways again, Sam will go right back with the Waboritas and his own recording contract. Moreover, Sam doesn't even need music anymore. Cabo Wabo and his tequilla have made him a millionaire all by themselves. Diamond Dave needs VH...not Sammy

    Very comical and very misinformed. The only time Hagar has ever made any money was with Van Halen. Hagar’s solo career albums and tours, both before and after VH are a disaster and big money losers. Hagar’s total solo album unit sales are a joke, if you would like to take the time to review published information so as to not show your total ignorance on this subject.

    You say, Cabo Wabo and his tequila have made him a millionaire all by themselves. How do you know? Bring some facts to the table, instead of idle groupie gossip. Do you know the financial arrangements and partners in Hagar’s Cabo Wabo and tequila business ventures? Do you know the net profitability of these ventures? If you do, post them here, so we can all be educated on this subject.

    The facts are, Hagar is a repulsive drunk and I agree with others, he’s a “say anything for a buck” whore. Most musician’s like Hagar get their brain’s screwed out on business and financial deals.

    Regarding your last statement, it is quite obvious that Dave does not need Van Halen despite your idle rhetoric. I doubt Dave would even entertain a reunion offer from VH, based on the conduct of Eddie and Alex. It’s not like Dave needs the money or aggravation at this stage in his life.
    Hey you Van Dutch guys. Your names Neil & Bob or is that what you do!

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    • scottydabodi
      Crazy Ass Mofo
      • Jun 2004
      • 2541

      Man.... reading this stuff just makes me sad. VH were the greatest, man... now they're the lamest. When's Roth doin' another tour, that's what I wanna know. Dave's new band smokes Van Halen anyway.....
      If you listen to fools
      The Mob Rules

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      • dysfunction
        Head Fluffer
        • Jun 2004
        • 498

        Originally posted by gigolo
        I doubt Dave would even entertain a reunion offer from VH
        Are you serious? He has already crawled back twice and still couldn't make it work.

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        • Warham
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Mar 2004
          • 14589

          No, he has not crawled back twice.

          Eddie and Dave got together on their own accord in '96 and '00.

          There was no begging on anybody's part, as you so ineloquently put it.

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          • gigolo
            Roadie
            • May 2004
            • 163

            Originally posted by dysfunction
            Are you serious? He has already crawled back twice and still couldn't make it work.

            Your total ignorance greatly exceeds your ability to type on this subject.
            Hey you Van Dutch guys. Your names Neil & Bob or is that what you do!

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            • gigolo
              Roadie
              • May 2004
              • 163

              Van Halen Rocks Poopsi Arena 6.27.2004

              Small video clip here for those interested

              Hey you Van Dutch guys. Your names Neil & Bob or is that what you do!

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              • tobinentinc
                Head Fluffer
                • Apr 2004
                • 468

                Not sure if anybody posted this from ew.com:

                WHY IT'S HOT So Van Halen aren't reuniting with original lead belter David Lee Roth. But at least they've got Sammy Hagar (who left the group in '96) and not Gary Cherone (of the ill-fated Van Halen III) -- or worse, a fourth new singer. As long as clean-and-sober Eddie Van Halen can still shred, we're there, dude.
                BURNING QUESTION Will the formerly feuding Eddie (who has accused his frontmen of suffering from an ego disorder called ''Lead Singer Disease'') and Sammy be asking: ''Why can't this be love?''

                An overview of the hottest conerts of the summer. Funny how they put it as "at least they have sammy hagar"
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                • Samsonite
                  Head Fluffer
                  • May 2004
                  • 221

                  I posted this in the wrong spot.



                  Van Halens tour is going great


                  21,000 people.

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                  • gslinger
                    Foot Soldier
                    • May 2004
                    • 729

                    Originally posted by Samsonite
                    I posted this in the wrong spot.



                    Van Halens tour is going great


                    21,000 people.

                    If you would bother to read this thread, instead of making ignorant posts, you would understand this issue has already been addressed here.

                    If the Van Halen Tour is doing so "great", why has it:

                    (1) lost money to-date for its promoter,

                    (2) had an average overall paid attendance to-date of only 62%,

                    (3) had great upfront floor tickets, along with other great seating locations, for EVERY VH show to-date sold in the secondary market for up to 90% discount off face value, with over 58% of secondary market ticket inventory not selling at all,

                    (4) had people like you continually coming to this site and misrepresent data.

                    With 35 years music industry experience and substantial industry executive management contacts, I will tell you NO "great" Tour has these kinds of serious structural and financial problems...gs

                    PS: If all VH had was ONLY 21,000 at those two Phili shows, their promoter CCE lost their ass on those two shows!
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                    • Cathedral
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6621

                      Spammy fans must all be Democrats...they don't like facts either.

                      This tour is a bust, will continue to be a bust, and i'll be surprised if it isn't cut short before the last scheduled shows.

                      This is not the 5150 Tour, and success is not a given because there are no Dave Coat Tails to ride this time around, period.

                      On the other hand, this tour is doing better than the Van Cherone outting, lol...that ain't saying much now is it?

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                      • diamond den™

                        Originally posted by Warham
                        No, he has not crawled back twice.

                        Eddie and Dave got together on their own accord in '96 and '00.

                        There was no begging on anybody's part, as you so ineloquently put it.
                        Van Hagar fans love driving the their Honda Accords, dude

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                        • diamond den™

                          Originally posted by diamond den™
                          Van Hagar fans love driving the their Honda Accords, dude
                          Oh fuck, I forgot they drive Nissan's(my bad)

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                          • RogueHorseman
                            Commando
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 1298

                            Originally posted by Cathedral
                            ...On the other hand, this tour is doing better than the Van Cherone outting, lol...that ain't saying much now is it?
                            It isn't doing much better, not at all, and THAT speaks volumes.
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                            • Cathedral
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 6621

                              And that is my point...They fucked up going with Spam and if they don't rectify the problem they may just be eating Spam before it's all over. (not in the sexual sense as they do now)

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                              • FORD
                                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 59557

                                Originally posted by Cathedral
                                Spammy fans must all be Democrats...
                                Now why would that be the case when Sammy is a raging Busheep Republican
                                Eat Us And Smile

                                Cenk For America 2024!!

                                Justice Democrats


                                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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