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Or perhaps one of Alex's bass drums from the 2007 tour...
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I like the idea of the band recording in another studio other than Howdy Doody Mountain.
It makes Ed get off his fucking ass and get to the studio ON TIME.
I hope Shanks is a slave driver and tells him -- 7am sharp!=V V=
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Sorry to be a party pooper, but I'm finding it hard to get really excited about this, I'm more curious than anything else.
I just have this awful feeling that it could end up being underwhelming.The Power Of The Riff Compels MeComment
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No doubt but at least it gives us something to talk about.
The weak link is Eddie. I hope I'm wrong but I think he is completely burnt out creatively. Best chance is that they rework 3 or 4 unreleased songs from back in the day and do a few covers.Comment
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Re-working old material is a bad idea, IMO. Trying to re-capture the 'old' vibe seems doomed to fail with so much distance and would probably end up sounding contrived.
Writing an album from fresh would be better.The Power Of The Riff Compels MeComment
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This assumes that at this point, the band is capable of writing fresh music together. It also flies in the face of the comments Mr. Van Halen has made over the years of sitting on several album's worth of material. So the idea Sesh stated makes perfect sense, that being rework some old, familiar ideas, hash out a couple of covers and get the damned product in the stores or online. Immediately.
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I like the idea of digging back, finding some cool riffs and building from there. I do not like the idea of any cover songs on this one... I feel it would get torn apart like "after a 27 year absence, DLR could not write more than X original songs... 'Cause after all, everyone knows Eddie has at least 10 albums worth of material, so it can't be him".Originally posted by wiseguyComment
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Either way, it will be interesting to see if any song doctors or outside writers are used on the project. As long as it isn't Diane Warren, it could be OK. About the last thing anyone wants to hear is a sappy ballad played by Van Halen for a video featuring clips from the next "Bruce Willis Saves Humanity" movie. Unless of course, if a bunch of shit gets blown up in a real cool way.
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But even an underwhelming Van Halen album would be leaps & bounds over anything else we are being fed by the music industry.
I honestly don't think they are having a problem writing 10 decent songs that we will enjoy. But they need that 1 huge song that will get all the radio play and become a hit. That's the hard part. They need a Jump or Panama that will appeal to the masses to re-spark old interest & get new interest. I believe this will be where they get stuck. Been a long time since any of these guys have recorded a bonafide hit song.“Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”Comment
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I don't think the primary motivation with Eddie is money. They are all filthy rich and Eddie and Alex knocked back the big bucks in the late 90s and the early 2000s to do a tour with Dave for huge sums. I think Eddie wants his son to have a legitimate place in Van Halen's legacy. To do that, he needs to feature on a album that can live with the band's great years of 1978-84. Eddie knows that he and Dave have a unique chemistry as songwriters and he is finally willing to put aside his issues with Dave and make an album for creative reasons. He even said he visited Dave's house several times to write new material for this album. If he was being forced to work with Dave there is no way he would have done that.Comment
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There will definately be one or two tracks for radio and I think we will get a strong album. Remember Dave's and Mike's comments about those 5 or 6 tracks they recorded together back in 2000/2001? Essentially, they both said the band brought the magic back and they have those songs to use. Others such as John 5 and Dweezil Zappa have heard the music and say it's typical VH straight ahead hard rock. Sounds good to me.Last edited by Halen High; 01-26-2011, 08:25 PM.Comment
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That's not always the case though. Look at how The Beatles pulled out "The One After 909" in the middle of the total chaos of their "Let It Be" sessions and made it work. They wrote that song in fucking 1957, and had previously attempted to record it, but never managed to finish (though the 1963 attempt did make it to the Anthology Volume 1 collection - actually a splice job of two different takes, using technology that wouldn't have worked in 63)
I wouldn't say it's better than anything on Revolver or Sgt Pepper, but it works. And Van Halen just might be able to pull that off with a reworking of something they wrote in 1974. Or in 1984, for that matter.... maybe throw in a de-Hagarized version of the songs they were recording before the original split.Eat Us And Smile
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I think the work 'legacy' could be taken very negative with how unmotivated ed has produced work wise.However if eds working with Zloz on a CVH book and they are potentially at A&M studios then it seems ed is in a CVH kind of mindframe then we may have the product similar to VH1 or VH2 mark 2.....i think they may take a while with this, lets face it they wont be knocking this out in 2 weeks like they did with VH2Comment
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