Occupy ROTH Army

[Blaze]

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[Nitro Express]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Someone should put this on a big poster and put this on it with THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE PEACEABLY TO ASSEMBLE highlighted.

If you don't stick up for your rights they will surely be taken from you.

[Blaze]

Probably one of these type of bombs. Kids make them and leave them and when someone picks it up it explodes. We got the heads up on these a year ago. Kids are so stupid now.

No, actually "kids" are not stupid now./ Nevertheless, what part of "thrown" and "picked up" are you confusing.

[Nitro Express]

No, actually "kids" are not stupid now./ Nevertheless, what part of "thrown" and "picked up" are you confusing.

They rig the bottle bomb so when someone picks it up to throw the bottle away as trash it explodes. You can also throw them. Yes many kids today are stupid and have no respect for anything. When the bomb explodes you have an ammonia smell due to the toilet bowl cleaner in them. They are loud as hell too. That's probably what was thrown into the the crowd.

[Blaze]

Someone should put this on a big poster and put this on it with THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE PEACEABLY TO ASSEMBLE highlighted.

If you don't stick up for your rights they will surely be taken from you.

That "someone" is you, Nitro!
If you need tutoring (assistance) through the unfamiliar process of ordering signs from Kinkos. Contact frontdesk@OccupySavannha.org.

[Blaze]

They rig the bottle bomb so when someone picks it up to throw the bottle away as trash it explodes. You can also throw them. Yes many kids today are stupid and have no respect for anything. When the bomb explodes you have an ammonia smell due to the toilet bowl cleaner in them. They are loud as hell too. That's probably what was thrown into the the crowd.

Nitro, the youth of my sector may be naive, but they are far from stupid.
However, where have you gathered your intelligence from? Please share it could be useful. ~`~

[Nitro Express]

Your sector? Where do you live? The Death Star?

[Dr. Love]

http://www.disinfo.com/2011/10/wall-street-corporations-rent-their-own-nypd-unit-from-the-city-of-new-york/

Wall Street Corporations Rent Their Own NYPD Unit From The City Of New York
Posted by JacobSloan on October 24, 2011

Did you know that for a measly fee of $37 an hour per officer, you can rent uniformed, on-duty NYC cops as easily as ordering a sandwich? Then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani created the “Paid Detail Unit” in 1998 and Goldman Sachs and the New York Stock Exchange among others have been frequent customers recently. Counterpunch reveals:

The Paid Detail Unit allows the New York Stock Exchange and Wall Street corporations, including those repeatedly charged with crimes, to order up a flank of New York’s finest with the ease of dialing the deli for a pastrami on rye. The corporations pay an average of $37 an hour for a member of the NYPD, with gun, handcuffs and the ability to arrest.

New York City gets a 10 percent administrative fee on top of the $37 per hour paid to the police. The City’s 2011 budget called for $1,184,000 in Paid Detail fees, meaning private corporations were paying wages of $11.8 million to police participating in the Paid Detail Unit. The program has more than doubled in revenue to the city since 2002.

The taxpayer has paid for the training of the rent-a-cop, his uniform and gun, and will pick up the legal tab for lawsuits stemming from the police personnel following illegal instructions from its corporate master. Lawsuits have already sprung up from the program.

When the program was first rolled out, one insightful member of the NYPD posted the following on a forum: “… regarding the officer working for, and being paid by, some of the richest people and organizations in the City, if not the world, enforcing the mandates of the private employer, and in effect, allowing the officer to become the Praetorian Guard of the elite of the City. And now corruption is no longer a problem. Who are they kidding?”

Wall Street firms that are known to have used the Paid Detail include Goldman Sachs, the World Financial Center complex which houses financial firms, and the New York Stock Exchange.

looks like they got a good return on their investment, huh

[Blaze]

Your sector? Where do you live? The Death Star?

I suppose that could be answered with, "Do you know the difference between a star, a planet, and a man-made satellite in the night sky?"
Cheers

[Nitro Express]

I'm amazed at how little police officers get paid. I was visiting a friend who was in the hospital and one of the nurses was a former police officer. Why he left was the pay. He makes more being a nurse.

[Nitro Express]

The longer this Occupy thing goes the more of a parody it will become. Look at the Vietnam protests. They went on for a long time and never really did any good. The government expanded the war under the height of the protesting. Unless you can provide an electable candidate or group of candidates you really have no power. The establishment absorbed the Tea Party movement and it will absorb the Occupy movement the same way. Where is it going? Selling votes for Obama? He's going oh goody here's something I can adopt and these people are probably too dumb to notice I took more Wall Street money than any president in 20 years.

You never hear about the Tea Party anymore. It got sucked in by the Republican party and the only people that even keep the term alive is the left who have used it as a nickname to label the far right with. The movement which began as a bailout protest died.

The real power is being a real party with electable candidates. You got to get your people into office. That or take the country over militarily which isn't going to happen.

[Unchainme]

It started out as a great idea. Middle class americans fed up with what's happening in the world of big business.

The problem is...it got kinda hijacked by the extremes of the political movement. When you have guys wearing Che Guerva ( murdering, racist scumbag) t-shirts and people affiliated with the Socialist Party of the US latching onto it, you've got problems.

Same thing happened with the Tea Party. It's why I really struggle to get behind either, and find both have morphed into these really extreme left v. right wing battle for the country sort of thing, when in actuality, I believe that we need to unite as a nation and find solutions to the problems out there.

It's like, in any community, usually when politics are left out of the equation, people find ways to solve problems and help one another. When, for example, someone has passed away, and the family is left to grieve, there's an overall sense to try to help those who by the community. Be it by Church or through the neighborhood, they find ways to do something to help those that may not be able to help themselves. They don't stand around and blame the problem, they go about and do something. That's what we as Americans should be embracing. Not trying to finger point, but trying to find solutions and ways to make things work.

[Kristy]

The problem is...it got kinda hijacked by the extremes of the political movement.

What extremes would that be? The media spin that this is one giant tax headache bitch or provocateurs in the crowd who make fodder for the likes such as Fox News? To me, the problem with this whole Occupy Movement is that there is no cohesive focus - it's a party anyone can join. Everyone has ideas and messages but no one really wants to take charge and by that I mean someone who fosters the whole global movement. The thought of that to me is a bit scary because one should be careful of who they make a leader. Much of the aim has shifted, too. Endless videos on YouGoob show cops being harassers, bullies and that this is a precursor to living in a police state (like we're not already?) instead of people coming up with truly rational solutions of what it will take to bring down THE MAN which, let's not shit ourselves, will never happen.

[Nitro Express]

What extremes would that be? The media spin that this is one giant tax headache bitch or provocateurs in the crowd who make fodder for the likes such as Fox News? To me, the problem with this whole Occupy Movement is that there is no cohesive focus - it's a party anyone can join. Everyone has ideas and messages but no one really wants to take charge and by that I mean someone who fosters the whole global movement. The thought of that to me is a bit scary because one should be careful of who they make a leader. Much of the aim has shifted, too. Endless videos on YouGoob show cops being harassers, bullies and that this is a precursor to living in a police state (like we're not already?) instead of people coming up with truly rational solutions of what it will take to bring down THE MAN which, let's not shit ourselves, will never happen.

Very good points. A friend of mine rode the train into New York City to take a look for herself and she said it was a hodgepodge. Some of it scary. Some of it just normal people out showing they are frustrated with the corruption. I can remember when the Tea Party was more grass roots and look at what happened. It got sucked in by the establishment and disappeared. That started off as a anti-bank bailout protest then it got hijacked by the bankers. So these movements can actually be hijacked by the same people they are protesting.

Unless you are an actual party with actual candidates who can win elections, your movement has no real power.

[Kristy]

I'm not on anyone's side but when I see protesters clogging up public parks, blocking streets and a cop pushes them back with a billyclub only to scream "assault" or "harassment" or "fascist" then it is no longer a "movement" but a baby crying bitch fest.