Occupy ROTH Army

[Unchainme]

Eisenhower and the Marshall Plan?

Forgot about Eisenhower.

another underrated guy. People always seem to want to ffwd from roosevelt to kennedy without giving Ike credit.

[Nickdfresh]

Ike was REAL Republican (fiscally moderate conservative and socially liberal) who would be drummed out of the party as a "RINO" by cryptically fascist assholes that act exactly like Stalinist apparatchiks with ideological litmus testing...

[FORD]

Eisenhower was technically the first BCE President. But he also was the only one of them who saw through their agenda and in fact warned the American People about it in his last speech as President. He also built the interstate highway system, taxed the rich at 91%, and refused to endorse Nixon -his own VP - in 1960, because he knew Dick was BCE to the core.

So yeah, Ike was OK, all things considered.

[Unchainme]

Random thought:

I had always throught the country would have been way better off if the choice for President in 2000 would have just been for McCain or Al Gore, rather than W.

This of course, was prior to when McCain went kinda insane towards the end of the decade.

[SunisinuS]

Ike was REAL Republican (fiscally moderate conservative and socially liberal) who would be drummed out of the party as a "RINO" by cryptically fascist assholes that act exactly like Stalinist apparatchiks with ideological litmus testing...

Sorry just had to Smeg and the Heads this quote.

Roth On!

If you are too old....just go to 2:54 and be Crypto Facist.

[Blaze]

The problem is, these have not exactly been peaceful.

Some jackass screaming out "FACIST PIGS!", and then fucking with the cops, like I've seen countless times happen with this. Is. not. peaceful.

There's a lot of idiots at these things, who are thinking more with emotions rather than with logic. I wouldn't trust being around a large crowd of them. Same with the Tea Party. Herd mentality for the both of them.

Not saying that there's not intelligent people with logic, that if you took them aside, and gave them a cup of water to cool off that they wouldn't be reasonable people. But, I think Men In Black kinda sums it up:

I hope to make this clear and clarify my comments. I do not believe those involved with OWS are not intelligent people. Quite the opposite. I think that some of the leaders of the movement who have a voice and know what they're talking about should be getting a bigger platform. The problem is, it let to many whack-jobs into the fold. The voices of reason and rationale are being drowned out by those who are just looking at as an excuse to relive the 60's.

Nobody wants to hear from the dude running some third rate socialist party who lives in his mom's basement. But maybe the single mom who has seen things first hand as to the problems with her current conditions and the way the system has kinda fucked her over. Her perspective would help this country out a lot.

Nobody wants to hear from the idiot with a tea bag on his ben franklin hat who belongs to the local gun club, but maybe the small business owner down the street running the store who's struggling would perhaps be an interesting voice to hear.

Those are the people who should be having their voices heard, not these professional protesters who look like they're geared up to be superfans at any given nfl stadium on sunday.

There have been a handful of masked "anarchists" (i.e. government agents trying to stir up shit) but most of the problems have been caused by the fascist thug police.

Not that all police are fascist thugs, but it's becoming far too apparent that too many are.

I suspect part of the problem is you have some ex-military guys coming directly from Iraq or Afghanistan right onto the streets of the USA, brains fried with PTSD and unable to mentally know the difference between a combat zone and a peaceful protest. The motherfucker in Oakland who deliberately shot Scott Olsen in the head with a tear gas cannister targeted him for a reason, and I'm guessing the "Veterans For Peace" shirt Olsen was wearing had something to do with it.

Nobody should go directly from the military into civilian police force, at the very least not without a complete psychological evaluation.

No question, I don't doubt that such a thing is going on. But I also think that there's a few civilians who are indeed looking to cause trouble.

My only thought is they're probably wired to think a certain way for this sort of thing. The last time we've really had protests of this magnitude were back in the late 60's, and it was just a terrible fucked up chapter in our countries history.

We've had a mixture of pro-labor protests since this countries founding, but they've always strangely found a way to work themselves out. Case in point? Look at good ol' Teddy R. and the conditions he was elected under.

Too much hassle to thank all three so just brought them forward.

[Nitro Express]

Who's kidding who. Both the Democrat and Republican parties have been taken over. One of the same now. The parties were way different in the times of Ike and Kennedy and frankly you had good people in both. Once Johnson and Nixon took control of the White House it's been downhill since in both parties.

[FORD]

Nah, LBJ had his shady side and fucked up big time in Vietnam, obviously. But the right wing shitbags didn't truly infiltrate the Democratic party until the late 80's

[Nitro Express]

Nah, LBJ had his shady side and fucked up big time in Vietnam, obviously. But the right wing shitbags didn't truly infiltrate the Democratic party until the late 80's

Johnson was connected to the right wing Texas oil industry. Maybe the party wasn't completely infiltrated but they had Johnson. The CIA was to the point of waging it's own wars and Kennedy was going to break it up. He was going after the oil, banking, and military industrial complex. Once Johnson was in he gave those guys everything they wanted. Nixon just continued the program. He also gave us more big government like EPA and OSHA. Johnson was more tied to the corporations than a Democrat should be and Nixon was more big government than a Republican should be. As soon as Kennedy was killed it was a new game in Washington and we never recovered from it. Things just steadily became worse.

[FORD]

If you think OSHA, the EPA, and Medicare are BAD things, then you need to take a look at yourself, not at the political parties.

Nixon was about 95% asshole and a BCE lifer, but I'll give him credit for those things. Or at least for not obstructing them when Congress created them.

[Nickdfresh]

Eisenhower was technically the first BCE President. ....
So yeah, Ike was OK, all things considered.

Yet you often cite his "Military Industrial Complex" speech...

[FORD]

Yet you often cite his "Military Industrial Complex" speech...

As I said, he was put in office by the BCE (Grandpa Prescott literally introduced him to Nixon) but he was never truly on board with their agenda. As opposed to Nixon who was literally hired in 1946 to help Prescott get his Nazi friends into the US.

[Blaze]

Happy Thanksgiving All!

[Nitro Express]

If you think OSHA, the EPA, and Medicare are BAD things, then you need to take a look at yourself, not at the political parties.

Nixon was about 95% asshole and a BCE lifer, but I'll give him credit for those things. Or at least for not obstructing them when Congress created them.

Believe me. Once you have had the dealings with OSHA that I have had, you would want to get rid of that agency. I know someone who has been trying to produce a $18,000 electric car in the US and his only hurdle is the EPA. They just refuse to process the paper work. If you sell your car without the EPA gas mileage sticker (on an electric car if that makes any sense) it's a $30,000 fine per car. Sounds like an agency that just wants big car companies selling cars. OSHA flagged me on some scaffolding that was not made by an approved manufacture. Apparently their competition had better lobbyist in Washington.

Hey the EPA lets oil and gas companies frack but some small manufacture can't hire some people and sell and electric car that doesn't cost and arm and a leg.

[Nitro Express]

The Bush faction is basically the seedy side of the CIA. Just a bunch of Nazis basically. History is full of people who want a one world government. It always fails but always leaves lots of carnage from the attempt. I think the whole war on terror thing was cooked up by the Bush faction. It's so obviously fake and contrived. Then a group out of Europe came up with the whole global warming carbon tax scam. It seems like that is the uranium/nuclear industry vs the American oil industry. 70% of the world economy is energy so someone is always trying to control it. It seems like you have the fat cats waring with each other in some cases and then working together as far as having a one world corporate government. The Bush family have been major players for three generations at least in this game.