Did Ed feel threatened by Yngwie?

[ELVIS]

BTW, Joe Lynn Turner does the Stripper-esque vocals on dance The Night Away, but it might as well be John Corabi as it sounds just like the crappy stripper-rock vocals on Hot For Teacher...

Woo-hoo!

Let's take the T-Tops off the Camaro, pick up your friend's sister from work at McDonalds, drop her kids off at the babysitter, decide to drop her off too and pick up the babysitter, and ROCK OUT TO VAN HALEN TRIBUTE 2000!!!

LMAO!

[lafours]

Another guy that was around at the Same time as Ed that could have had it all was Micheal Schenker. Great chops, taste, and good songwriting and riffing. If he wouldnt melt down every 6 months he would have been set... He blew it with UFO and the Scorpions and even the lesser MSG... He wasnt as good or had the caliber of band as Ed but he was probobly the "second best " for a moment

The album Schenker cut with Graham Bonnet ( Assault Attack) was awesome.

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Classic UFO from 78

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[lafours]

Kicking ass in 1975

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[bueno bob]

Originally posted by BALLYJUNKIE
I just dont think yngwie is in edward van halen"S class in ability ,songwriting or showmanship .thats my opinion ..... i have seen yngwie before his band was great ..... anders and jens johanson ,and jeff scott soto ...... but to me the real gift is writing songs not just endless jamming .... i think yngwie songwriting isnt that great .....

Since 1983, Yngwie's written FAR better stuff than Van Halen has. I own every album Yngwie's ever recorded, heard everything Van Halen's done since 1983, and trust me, I am one to speak here...

[lafours]

I actually thought the album Vai cut with Alcatrazz was awesome. Vai played with alot of restraint and delivered solid songs and performances. It was a totally different direction than the Yngwie stuff and it worked...wish you could get it on cd for less than import prices...

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by lafours
I actually thought the album Vai cut with Alcatrazz was awesome. Vai played with alot of restraint and delivered solid songs and performances. It was a totally different direction than the Yngwie stuff and it worked...wish you could get it on cd for less than import prices...

I've seen it go for less than $5 at times on ebay...

Alcatrazz should have called it a day after that album...Dangerous Games was some of the most horrid shit I've EVER heard put to tape...

[BrownSound1]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Yngwie has released something like 10,000 albums, or CD's or whatever...

I always felt and said that if he would have narrowed it down to like six or so, and not released every guitar solo, turd and fart he ever recorded, he would have been more interesting, palletable and probably more popular...

I'm one of Yngwie's bigger fans and even I haven't heard every one of his CD's...

It's just too much material to sift through, especially when a lot of it is similar...

It's kinda sad because there are some real jems hiding in there with some of the worlds best guitar playing...

Yngwie has some of the best guitar tones ever put to disc as well...Equally as good as vintage Edward and the Brown Sound...

Yngwie does have a great tone for sure, but I don't like it as much as Ed's old tones. As far as a Strat into a Marshall though, Yngwie is definitely among the tops.

I hate Steve Vai's tone, always thought it sounded like a mosquito.

[kamaboko]

Originally posted by lafours
[B] Another guy that was around at the Same time as Ed that could have had it all was Micheal Schenker. Great chops, taste, and good songwriting and riffing. If he wouldnt melt down every 6 months he would have been set... He blew it with UFO and the Scorpions and even the lesser MSG... He wasnt as good or had the caliber of band as Ed but he was probobly the "second best " for a moment
]

IMO Ed can't hold a guitar pick to Schenker. Schenker's collective work demonstrates much more diversity. Take hammer-on's and Ed's whammy bar away and what do you have? Answer: same old shit. Ed's good, but if I had to pick b/t seeing Schenker play or Ed, you can bet your ass it would be Schenker.

[Matt White]

Originally posted by kamaboko
IMO Ed can't hold a guitar pick to Schenker. Schenker's collective work demonstrates much more diversity. Take hammer-on's and Ed's whammy bar away and what do you have? Answer: same old shit. Ed's good, but if I had to pick b/t seeing Schenker play or Ed, you can bet your ass it would be Schenker.

Now now...that's getting carried away.....

EVH is a master of rhythm guitar...and a far superior song writer than Schenker....

EVH did more for guitar with his first release than MS has accomplished in his entire career....

And Schenker is a FAR superior drunken fool...just ask his exwife:p

[dave_is_vh]

EVH is more innovative and a better song writer.

Schenker has a superior sense of melody.

It is a shame how drugs and bad decisions caused Schenker to not reach his potential. I remember a couple years ago he was so bad off financially that he was giving guitar lessons.

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
It is a shame how drugs and bad decisions caused Schenker to not reach his potential.

Of course the same thing could be said about EVH! LOL

[clownsauce]

Vai was initially hired by Frank Zappa to do transcriptions of Zappa's music, especially the guitar parts. Saying he ripped Zappa off is silly. That he could do and did those transcriptions also says much about how his mind works and probably influenced him greatly as a musician.

Van Halen and Malmsteen are such different players it's amazing that anyone even wants to compare them. Ed has much, much, much wider appeal, period, very much due to his tone, his style, and what he writes. Malmsteen has some of the staunchest admirers of any guitarist around: those who like him tend to put him at the top of the pile. But the generally neoclassical nature of his music doesn't help him; 99% of the population has never heard Yngwie's style and very few of them would know what to think of it if they did.

Ask the average North American to name one widely regarded neo/classical composer from the last 50 years and they might come up with Aaron Copeland. Most people are quite happy to listen to the old Europeans when they want a taste of classical music; their loss.

The whole, "who's the best X ever," has way more to do with personal preference than anything else. You can put together a list based on votes, various "metrics", whatever. Ain't nobody going to agree with the entire list. For my money, Jeff Beck is the best I've ever heard, but most of my guitar-playing friends consider him a whammy-bar abuser with "unnatural" tone.

Oh, and for my money, this is some of the most amazing guitar playing I've ever heard; two musicians communicating with their eyes, ears, and instruments alone:

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[lafours]

yeah ,

I forgot about Gary Moore...talk about underrated...

even his metal stuff like the victims of the future disc....

the solo on shapes of things is down right scary!

George Lynch is another guy who has kept his chops up over the years...


The main guy EVH was probably tired of hearing about was Randy Rhoads...he seemed to be the guy "stealing the crown" in the commercial hard rock world.

Theres a taped interview ( I had it on mp3) where ED basically says Rhoads was a good player but "didn't do anything he didn't do already "..

any one who has listened to both players could tell Rhoads was influenced by some of Ed's stuff but his schooled approach , heavier riffs, and classical influence was way different

[ziggysmalls]

The best way to approach "who's penis is bigger?" argument is to answer this question.

Had the guitarist in question, never been born, how would it have affected the guitar community or music in general?

IMO, Eddie's worth is greated than Moore, Schenker, Rhoads, Lynch and Vai.

Take away the band Van Halen and how would the 80's have sounded?

[ELVIS]

Schenker had some good riffs, melodies and solos back in the day, but his kind of music always reminds me of something Spinal Tapish...