Did Ed feel threatened by Yngwie?

**bueno bob** · 09-13-2007, 12:12 AM

MacAlpine was/is a monster, for sure. First two solo albums (Edge of Insanity and Maximum Security) were great.

**dave_is_vh** · 09-13-2007, 12:27 AM

Graham Bonnet is the greatest singer in the history of rock and roll imo. Even better than DLR, Plant, Coverdale etc. No one else sings with the power and intensity of Bonnet. Goran Edman was pretty damn good too.

Listening to Tears of Sahara right now - Tony MacAlpine and George Lynch are quite a powerful combination!

These speed = no emotion people need to get educated about music. Speed is merely a mechanism for expressing different emotions that cannot be expressed with slow playing. If you don't believe me listen to the sixth movement in Vivaldi's Four Seasons. Fast as hell and it doesn't get much more emotional that that. It is generally considered to be the greatest piece of classical music ever written.

**bueno bob** · 09-13-2007, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by Baby's On Fire
What songs did this Yngwie clown write?

Merlin's Castle, Birth of the Sun, Speed and Action, Dying Man, Voodoo Nights, On a Serious Note, Island in the Sun, General Hospital, Jet to Jet, Hiroshima Mon Amour, Kree Nakoorie, Incubus, Too Young to Die Too Drunk to Live, Bigfoot, Starcarr Lane, Suffer Me, Black Star, Far Beyond the Sun, Now Your Ships Are Burned, Evil Eye, Icarus Dream Suite, As Above So Below, Little Savage, Farewell, I'll See the Light Tonight, Don't Let it End, Disciples of Hell, I Am a Viking, Overture 1383, Anguish and Fear, On the Run Again, Soldier Without Faith, Caught in the Middle, Marching Out, You Don't Remember I'll Never Forget, Liar, Queen in Love, Crying, Fury, Fire, Dark Ages, Magic Mirror, Trilogy Suite, Rising Force, Hold On, Heaven Tonight, Dreaming (Tell Me), Bite the Bullet, Riot in the Dungeon, Deja Vu, Crystal Ball, Now is the Time, Faster Than the Speed of Light, Krakatau, Memories, Making Love, Bedroom Eyes, Save Our Love, Motherless Child, Devil in Disguise, Judas, What Do You Want, Faultline, See You in Hell (Don't Be Late), Eclipse, Perpetual, Dragonfly, Teaser, How Many Miles to Babylon, Cry No More, No Mercy, C'est la Vie, Leviathan, Fire and Ice, Forever is a Long Time, I'm My Own Enemy, All I Want is Everything, Golden Dawn, Final Curtain, Broken Glass, Never Die, I Don't Know, Meant to Be, Forever One, Hairtrigger, Brothers, Seventh Sign, Bad Blood, Prisoner of Your Love, Pyramid of Cheops, Crash and Burn, Sorrow, I Can't Wait, Aftermath, Power and Glory (Takada's Theme), Vengeance, No Love Lost, The Only One, Tomorrow's Gone, I'd Die Without You, Overture 1622, Voodoo, Time Will Tell, Cross the Line, Fire in the Sky, Amberdawn, Casting Pearls Before the Swine, Angel in Heat, Braveheart, Facing the Animal, Enemy, Resurrection, Sacrifice, Like an Angel, Another Time, Heathens from the North, End of My Rope, Alone in Paradise, Poison in Your Veins, Only the Strong, Air On a Theme, Blitzkrieg, Leonardo, Playing With Fire, The Stand, Wield My Sword, Blue, Legions of the Damned, Deamon Dance, Hanger 18 Area 51, Voodoo Nights, Asylum: Asylum/Sky Euphoria/Quantum Leap, Prophet of Doom, Crucify, Bad Reputation, Catch-22, Molto Arpeggiosa, Miracle of Life, The Wizard, Preludium, Wild One, Tarot, Instrumental Institution, War to End All Wars, Black Sheep of the Family, Razor Eater, Rise Up, Valley of the Kings, Ship of Fools, Attack, Stronghold, Baroque & Roll, In the Name of God, Mad Dog, Freedom isn't Free, Majestic Blue, Valhalla, Touch the Sky, Iron Clad, Air, Nobody's Fool, Locked and Loaded, Revolution, Winds of War (Invasion), Cracking the Whip, Crown of Thorns, Beauty and the Beast, The Bogeyman, Fuguetta, Cherokee Warrior, Guardian Angel, Let the Good Times Roll, Revelation (Drinking With the Devil), Magic and Mayhem, Exile, The Hunt, Russian Roulette, Unleash the Fury, Paraphrase, Icarus Dream Fanfare, Cavallino Rampante, Fugue, Prelude To April, Toccata, Andante, Sarabande, Allegro, Adagio, Vivace, Presto Vivace, Finale

Probably a few others I forgot off the top of my head, but that more or less covers it.

Originally posted by Baby's On Fire
I still have no idea who he is. Please name some songs he played. I haven't a clue.

Done and done...although I'd seriously rethink myself before using the term "clown" to describe him, considering he virtually single-handedly revolutionized the way Eddieclones looked at the guitar in 1984.

**bueno bob** · 09-13-2007, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
Graham Bonnet is the greatest singer in the history of rock and roll imo. Even better than DLR, Plant, Coverdale etc. No one else sings with the power and intensity of Bonnet. Goran Edman was pretty damn good too.

You think so?

I have to disagree...I know Bonnet's got his fans, but honestly I can't stand him...

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
Listening to Tears of Sahara right now - Tony MacAlpine and George Lynch are quite a powerful combination!

These speed = no emotion people need to get educated about music. Speed is merely a mechanism for expressing different emotions that cannot be expressed with slow playing. If you don't believe me listen to the sixth movement in Vivaldi's Four Seasons. Fast as hell and it doesn't get much more emotional that that. It is generally considered to be the greatest piece of classical music ever written.

Now THAT I'll agree with.

**bueno bob** · 09-13-2007, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by ELVIS
The main difference is Edward had a better vocalist...

Graham Bonnet is good to put a smile on your face though...:D

My favorite Malmsteen vocalists were Jeff Scott Soto, Mark Boals, Joe Lynn Turner and Michael Vescera...

Never really cared too much for any of the others...

**bueno bob** · 09-13-2007, 12:38 AM

Actually I still have that issue of Guitar Magazine laying around somewhere with that quote from Malmsteen about Ed - seemed like he genuinely wanted to get with him and play...

Would have been very interesting to hear, no doubt of that...I doubt Yngwie'd give him the time of day currently though...

**GO-SPURS-GO** · 09-13-2007, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by Eddie's Booze
But Vai just copies too many people and not as good. He played with Frank Zappa(got I would think 90% of his musical ideas from him, Joined ALcatrazz which was Yngwies band then of course Dave which Yngwie was Dave's first choice as recommended to him by Billy Sheenan).

So basically Vai made a "Name" for himself out of ripping off and living in Frank Zappa's, Eddie Van Halen's and Yngwie's shadows.

Stepping in to fill great players shoes like Ed and Yngwie just proves how great Steve is. Ed couldn’t play Yngwie’s stuff and Yngwie could never play Ed’s stuff. They both have totally different styles and tones. But Steve did a really good job at mimicking both of their styles. To say he ripped of his playing style and that he got 90 percent of his ideas from Zappa is just really dumb.

**bueno bob** · 09-13-2007, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
Stepping in to fill great players shoes like Ed and Yngwie just proves how great Steve is. Ed couldn’t play Yngwie’s stuff and Yngwie could never play Ed’s stuff. They both have totally different styles and tones.

Not true, actually...

Check out the "Little Guitars: A Tribute to Van Halen" album...

Yngwie plays on Light Up the Sky (Doug Pinnick from King's X on vocals) and totally owns the song...plays it every bit as well as Eddie...

Frankly, I'm hard pressed to decide who's playing on the song I like better...

**ELVIS** · 09-13-2007, 02:06 AM

Yeah, I dig Yngwie's playing on that...

He plays the heck out of the rhythm on that song and just burns a killer solo...

I'm glad someone else here likes it...

**ELVIS** · 09-13-2007, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by bueno bob
Frankly, I'm hard pressed to decide who's playing on the song I like better...

No such thing as better...

They both blow me away...

I like Yngwie's ability to keep the vibe and intensity intact...

Something most people and/or players would easily overlook...

**BALLYJUNKIE** · 09-13-2007, 02:35 AM

yeah .... YNGWIE.,PLAYS 'LIGHT UP THE SKY GREAT ........... BUT WHO WROTE THE SONG ? EDWARD VAN HALEN ......... ITS ON A TRIBUTE VAN HALEN ALBUM .... AND THERES ALOT OF GREAT GUITAR PLAYERS AND MUSICIANS ON THAT ALBUM .... AND THIER ALL PAYING TRIBUTE TO VAN HALEN NOT YNGWIE ..............WRITE GREAT SONGS YNGWIE AND MAYBE SOMEONE WILL MAKE A TRIBUTE ALBUM OF YOU ..... I DOUBT IT ,THOUGH

**estang74** · 09-13-2007, 02:54 AM

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
I'm a rather poor guitar player myself, so don't mistake what I'm going to say about Satriani, Vai and Malmsteen...

Those musicians are exceptional technicians, but their stuff sound "soul-less" IMO. Maybe Malmsteen is more of a melodist than the other two. But frankly, listening to all three of them is a terrible bore to me. The pals of mine who are into guitar will always say I'm crazy to say that, but I can do nothing about it. The worst for me is the "circus" they tour with, the "G3" or whatever... Goddamn boredom... When I don't just find it pointless.
Even when there's an attempt at making melody... When they cover Hendrix's "Voodoo Chile" like I saw and heard them do on video, it gives me nausea. No taste, no tact, just playing as technically and fast as they can, with no soul... No thanks.
Maybe Malmsteen, whose albums I know much less, is an actual songwriter, I don't know, but mainly I can't get into their works, which is highly respectable of course, by the by, pushing guitar to such levels...
EVH is a composer, which the other three are, strictly speaking... But I would never change "Mean Street" for their whole catalogues. Maybe I exagerate here, but I think there's more "soul" in any CVH song than will ever be in all of Malmsteen, Satriani and Vai's albums.

Unless there's Dave to strive the job, I'm sure Vai would never have played what he did on EEAS.

All that tagadagadagada-look-how-fast-I'm-playing stuff pisses me off. I know a few local guitarists whose aim is to play as closely to Malmsteen or Satriani as possible, and I think they're just dumb (the locals).

IMHO, it's EVH, hands down. I couldn't care less about "Speedy Gonzaleses". Soul and melody, dammit!!

Listen to "For the Love of God" by steve vai. I'm sure you'll change your mind some what after hearing that song in terms of feel.

**ELVIS** · 09-13-2007, 03:07 AM

I didn't...

**ELVIS** · 09-13-2007, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by BALLYJUNKIE
WRITE GREAT SONGS YNGWIE AND MAYBE SOMEONE WILL MAKE A TRIBUTE ALBUM OF YOU ..... I DOUBT IT ,THOUGH

Guitar Odyssey: Tribute To Yngwie Malmsteen

**ELVIS** · 09-13-2007, 03:17 AM

Dumbass...

Did Ed feel threatened by Yngwie?

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