Did Ed feel threatened by Yngwie?

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by estang74
Alot of those guys could write good rock songs(example: Damn Good) but they choose to write what they want to write.

Like, what...

[dave_is_vh]

Damn Good is perhaps the worst Dave solo song ever imo.

However Vai did write Skyscraper which is a kick ass song.

[ELVIS]

Nah, I think it's safe to say Just Like Paradise and Perfect Timing are far worse than Damn Good...

And if you want worse than than that, check out the next album...

[Eddie's Booze]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
EVH is more innovative and a better songwriter than Yngwie.

Yngwie is a better guitar player.

When I learned how to play guitar a long time ago my teacher was a successful jazz guitarist. He really liked Yngwie's playing but not EVH's. He described EVH's playing as "sound effects" and to a large degree I think he was correct. But he also said that EVH was one of the best songwriters in rock and roll.

With people like EVH, Yngwie, Jimi Hendrix, Al Di Meola, Allan Holdsworth, Pat Metheny, etc. around it is kind of amazing to me that people like Vai and Satriani have any fans at all.

Steve Vai and Satriani are good guitar players. But Vai just copies too many people and not as good. He played with Frank Zappa(got I would think 90% of his musical ideas from him, Joined ALcatrazz which was Yngwies band then of course Dave which Yngwie was Dave's first choice as recommended to him by Billy Sheenan).

So basically Vai made a "Name" for himself out of ripping off and living in Frank Zappa's, Eddie Van Halen's and Yngwie's shadows.

[dave_is_vh]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ELVIS
Nah, I think it's safe to say Just Like Paradise and Perfect Timing are far worse than Damn Good...

And if you want worse than than that, check out the next album... [/QUOTE

Just Like Paradise and Perfect Timing are great songs.

As for the next album Drop in the Bucket is arguably Dave's greatest song ever - with VH or solo. A Little Ain't Enough and 40 Below are great too.

[ELVIS]

You're a dork...

LMAO!

[Jérôme Frenchise]

I'm a rather poor guitar player myself, so don't mistake what I'm going to say about Satriani, Vai and Malmsteen...

Those musicians are exceptional technicians, but their stuff sound "soul-less" IMO. Maybe Malmsteen is more of a melodist than the other two. But frankly, listening to all three of them is a terrible bore to me. The pals of mine who are into guitar will always say I'm crazy to say that, but I can do nothing about it. The worst for me is the "circus" they tour with, the "G3" or whatever... Goddamn boredom... When I don't just find it pointless.
Even when there's an attempt at making melody... When they cover Hendrix's "Voodoo Chile" like I saw and heard them do on video, it gives me nausea. No taste, no tact, just playing as technically and fast as they can, with no soul... No thanks.
Maybe Malmsteen, whose albums I know much less, is an actual songwriter, I don't know, but mainly I can't get into their works, which is highly respectable of course, by the by, pushing guitar to such levels...
EVH is a composer, which the other three are, strictly speaking... But I would never change "Mean Street" for their whole catalogues. Maybe I exagerate here, but I think there's more "soul" in any CVH song than will ever be in all of Malmsteen, Satriani and Vai's albums.

Unless there's Dave to strive the job, I'm sure Vai would never have played what he did on EEAS.

All that tagadagadagada-look-how-fast-I'm-playing stuff pisses me off. I know a few local guitarists whose aim is to play as closely to Malmsteen or Satriani as possible, and I think they're just dumb (the locals).

IMHO, it's EVH, hands down. I couldn't care less about "Speedy Gonzaleses". Soul and melody, dammit!!

[ELVIS]

Fair enough...

[Baby's On Fire]

Originally posted by Bluestreak
Ed didn't want to meet Yngwie because Yngwie is a dork and Yngwie had a lot more to gain out of meeting Ed than Ed did from meeting Yngwie. Ed has true talent and is an actual celeb. Yngwie would have been just another guitar store hanging out nerd if it wasn't for the shred metal that was popular in the 80's. Eddie hated anything that was played fast just for the sake of playing fast. Yngwie's music while technically impressive does nothing to stir the emotions. I am a guitar playing hack and I can play the intro to Unchained and that sounds ten times cooler than anything anything Yngwie ever played.

What songs did this Yngwie clown write? I still have no idea who he is.

Please name some songs he played. I haven't a clue.

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
I'm a rather poor guitar player myself, so don't mistake what I'm going to say about Satriani, Vai and Malmsteen...

Those musicians are exceptional technicians, but their stuff sound "soul-less" IMO. Maybe Malmsteen is more of a melodist than the other two. But frankly, listening to all three of them is a terrible bore to me. The pals of mine who are into guitar will always say I'm crazy to say that, but I can do nothing about it. The worst for me is the "circus" they tour with, the "G3" or whatever... Goddamn boredom... When I don't just find it pointless.
Even when there's an attempt at making melody... When they cover Hendrix's "Voodoo Chile" like I saw and heard them do on video, it gives me nausea. No taste, no tact, just playing as technically and fast as they can, with no soul... No thanks.
Maybe Malmsteen, whose albums I know much less, is an actual songwriter, I don't know, but mainly I can't get into their works, which is highly respectable of course, by the by, pushing guitar to such levels...
EVH is a composer, which the other three are, strictly speaking... But I would never change "Mean Street" for their whole catalogues. Maybe I exagerate here, but I think there's more "soul" in any CVH song than will ever be in all of Malmsteen, Satriani and Vai's albums.

Unless there's Dave to strive the job, I'm sure Vai would never have played what he did on EEAS.

All that tagadagadagada-look-how-fast-I'm-playing stuff pisses me off. I know a few local guitarists whose aim is to play as closely to Malmsteen or Satriani as possible, and I think they're just dumb (the locals).

IMHO, it's EVH, hands down. I couldn't care less about "Speedy Gonzaleses". Soul and melody, dammit!!

I'm done defending Yngwie from ignorant fools. I'll let someone else take this one.

Anyone who says speed = lack of emotion / feeling should take the issue up with Vivaldi, Mozart, Beethoven, and Bach.

[Baby's On Fire]

Originally posted by delta5150
What are you saying????
I've heard his solo stuff and it's
mediocre at best

Who is Steve Lukather? What band was he in? What songs did he write?

I'm not joking. I have no idea and don't give a shit except I see his name often.

[ELVIS]

Pick up his first album...

[ELVIS]

His second is my favorite...




:elivs:

[ELVIS]

I know this probably wont impress BOF...

It's just an Yngwie clip i've never seen...

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[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
I'm done defending Yngwie from ignorant fools.

I at least bothered to develop my point.

I made it obvious that I don't think I'm right over anybody who digs Malmsteen. Sorry if a three-line read is beyond your courage.

Isn't it sad for an adult to mistake opinions for facts...
I couldn't care less that you're Malmsteen's little doggy, as I don't give a damn about being a low-brow dumbass's "ignorant fool".